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  • #46
    Re: The only one true Religion

    Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
    The Holy Quran has never been made with errors. If a person were to ever make such an error that would be put death.
    Then how exactly do you explain these differences in Surah An-Nahl (16:25)?

    Yusuf Ali translation: Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full, and also (something) of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!

    M. Asad translation : Hence, on Resurrection Day they shall bear the full weight of their own burdens, as well as some of the burdens of those ignorant ones whom they have led astray: oh, how evil the load with which they shall be burdened!

    Pickthall translation: That they may bear their burdens undiminished on the Day of Resurrection, with somewhat of the burdens of those whom they mislead without knowledge. Ah! evil is that which they bear!

    Shakir translation: That they may bear their burdens entirely on the day of resurrection and also of the burdens of those whom they lead astray without knowledge; now surely evil is what they bear.

    Obviously, they can't all be right.
    "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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    • #47
      Re: The only one true Religion

      Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
      Then how exactly do you explain these differences in Surah An-Nahl (16:25)?

      Yusuf Ali translation: Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full, and also (something) of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!

      M. Asad translation : Hence, on Resurrection Day they shall bear the full weight of their own burdens, as well as some of the burdens of those ignorant ones whom they have led astray: oh, how evil the load with which they shall be burdened!

      Pickthall translation: That they may bear their burdens undiminished on the Day of Resurrection, with somewhat of the burdens of those whom they mislead without knowledge. Ah! evil is that which they bear!

      Shakir translation: That they may bear their burdens entirely on the day of resurrection and also of the burdens of those whom they lead astray without knowledge; now surely evil is what they bear.

      Obviously, they can't all be right.
      Lycia you failed to understand. The purity of The Holy Quran is in Arabic. Any translation into other languages must be authorized and considered not to be as pure as the Arabic version. You also failed to take note that many pure Islamic countries speak Arabic and services are also in Arabic. Next time do better research.
      SURA 1
      2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
      3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.

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      • #48
        Re: The only one true Religion

        Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
        Lycia I suspect Jo Freddie has brought one of his God mocking friends to support him.
        Lisa I don't understand why they don't just repent instead of trying their ridiculous arguments.

        Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
        Lycia you failed to understand. The purity of The Holy Quran is in Arabic. Any translation into other languages must be authorized and considered not to be as pure as the Arabic version. You also failed to take note that many pure Islamic countries speak Arabic and services are also in Arabic. Next time do better research.
        I see...

        Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
        The Holy Quran has never been made with errors. If a person were to ever make such an error that would be put death.
        So those translations I posted aren't the Quran? Or are they a Quran with errors? Because I think you stated that a Quran was never made with errors.
        "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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        • #49
          Re: The only one true Religion

          Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
          Lisa I don't understand why they don't just repent instead of trying their ridiculous arguments.
          Who knows Lycia. I know God gave us free to believe in Him, but I suspect that Satan needs some more fuel to keep Hell hot.
          Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
          Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
          Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
          Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
          Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
          Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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          • #50
            Re: The only one true Religion

            Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
            So those translations I posted aren't the Quran? Or are they a Quran with errors? Because I think you stated that a Quran was never made with errors.
            You're just behaving like the jinn try to deceive the believers. I have already explained to you and through your ignorance you are unable to understand. It must be because you are a female and unable to comprehend such matters.

            Since you have found copies of English Quran's try reading them to find the true path to Allah (pbuh).
            SURA 1
            2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
            3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.

            pbuh means Peace Be Upon Him

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            • #51
              Re: The only one true Religion

              Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
              You're just behaving like the jinn try to deceive the believers. I have already explained to you and through your ignorance you are unable to understand. It must be because you are a female and unable to comprehend such matters.

              Since you have found copies of English Quran's try reading them to find the true path to Allah (pbuh).
              But "imam" Rafiki, didn't you just say the English Qurans aren't pure like the Arabic versions? Why are you trying to get me to read a corrupted version of your (false) holy book?
              "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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              • #52
                Re: The only one true Religion

                Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
                I don't know, pasta-Io. Would you care to point out any differences between the KJV 1611 and the KJV 1769 that are not due to spelling or formatting? If it doesn't have any, then it means the 1769 version IS the 1611 version, just with standardized spelling and printing.
                Those spelling differences can not be just ignored, or is the name of the son of your "god" just a minor thing?

                The manuscript may or may not have been correct, do you have access to a copy to check?

                Only one letter difference here but a HUGE difference in meaning:
                Psalm 69:32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek good.
                Psalm 69:32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
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                • #53
                  Re: The only one true Religion

                  Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
                  But "imam" Rafiki, didn't you just say the English Qurans aren't pure like the Arabic versions? Why are you trying to get me to read a corrupted version of your (false) holy book?
                  Read the Arabic version if you can read Arabic. Allah (pbuh) wants everyone to here his Word.
                  SURA 1
                  2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
                  3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.

                  pbuh means Peace Be Upon Him

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                  • #54
                    Re: The only one true Religion

                    Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                    Those spelling differences can not be just ignored, or is the name of the son of your "god" just a minor thing?
                    Look pasta-head, Iesus is a Latin transliteration of the English name Jesus. Its like how the proper name John becomes Giovanni in Italian, Johann in German, and Janos in Hungarian. Understand?

                    The manuscript may or may not have been correct, do you have access to a copy to check?
                    No, do you?

                    Only one letter difference here but a HUGE difference in meaning:
                    Psalm 69:32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek good.
                    Psalm 69:32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
                    That was a printing error that was corrected in 1617. The second verse you quoted is the correct one. You can read more here

                    Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
                    Read the Arabic version if you can read Arabic. Allah (pbuh) wants everyone to here his Word.
                    Never.
                    "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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                    • #55
                      Re: The only one true Religion

                      Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
                      Read the Arabic version if you can read Arabic. Allah (pbuh) wants everyone to here his Word.
                      You don't get off so lightly either, where are The verses of stoning and breast feeding that were in the possession of A’isha, and what happened to them?
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                      • #56
                        Re: The only one true Religion

                        Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
                        Look pasta-head, Iesus is a Latin transliteration of the English name Jesus. Its like how the proper name John becomes Giovanni in Italian, Johann in German, and Janos in Hungarian. Understand?

                        No, do you?

                        That was a printing error that was corrected in 1617. The second verse you quoted is the correct one. You can read more here

                        Never.
                        Allah (pbuh) is the one you call God (pbuh). Turning to Islam will make you a true believer and you will be rewarded a place in the Garden of Paradise.

                        Even the Infidel Jo Freddie recognizes you are not following Allah (pbuh) correctly.
                        SURA 1
                        2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
                        3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.

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                        • #57
                          Re: The only one true Religion

                          Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                          You don't get off so lightly either, where are The verses of stoning and breast feeding that were in the possession of A’isha, and what happened to them?
                          What business is it of yours Infidel. You are worse than the unbelievers and must be a messenger from Shaitan.
                          SURA 1
                          2. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
                          3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.

                          pbuh means Peace Be Upon Him

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                          • #58
                            Re: The only one true Religion

                            Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
                            Look pasta-head, Iesus is a Latin transliteration of the English name Jesus. Its like how the proper name John becomes Giovanni in Italian, Johann in German, and Janos in Hungarian. Understand?
                            So the 1611 version quotes an imperfect version of his name.
                            That was a printing error that was corrected in 1617. The second verse you quoted is the correct one. You can read more here
                            So you admit that the 1611 version is imperfect.
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                            • #59
                              Re: The only one true Religion

                              Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
                              What business is it of yours Infidel. You are worse than the unbelievers and must be a messenger from Shaitan.
                              Well both you and these "true christians" claim their special book is perfect, when clearly they are not.
                              Gods TRUE Holy book has a disclaimer in the front.
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                              • #60
                                Re: The only one true Religion

                                Originally posted by Imam Rashik View Post
                                What business is it of yours Infidel. You are worse than the unbelievers and must be a messenger from Shaitan.
                                I'm with the hellbound pastafarian on this one (and that has NEVER happened before). Are you going to answer any of the concerns we brought up or just bring up lame ad-hominems.

                                Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
                                So the 1611 version quotes an imperfect version of his name.
                                No, various printings of the KJV 1611 manuscript quote an imperfect version of his name.

                                So you admit that the 1611 version is imperfect.
                                No, various printings of it are. Are you going to bring up an example of a significant difference between the 1611 and the 1769 versions that wasn't addressed in that article I gave you, or is it safe to assume you are emulating your avatar and have been reduced to mindless bleating?
                                "Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you. For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him." Matthew 21:31-32

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