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  • IbelieveIknowwhat?
    Doesn't know very much
     
    • Dec 2007
    • 114

    #1

    KJV

    So you guy say that the KJV are the only true words of god. But I've got news for ya, KJV stands for the "King James VERSION." This book does not contain the true words of Jesus or God. It's some guys version from the middle ages who just wanted to gain control over his country through the use of "godly" threats. He would claim himself a messenger of god and tell people that what he said were the words of god himself and if they didn't comply they'd just go strait to hell. Not a nice guy.And since at the time every one HAD to have the SAME religion as the king, there was no getting out of his demands. You can't prove this wrong with bible passages like you just so bluntly disprove all of the claims against you. Cause why would a King want to have been found out to be a liar?
    waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!
  • Brother Temperance
    Senior Usher
    True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
    A very nice young man
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 15621

    #2
    Re: KJV

    Originally posted by IbelievewhatIknow? View Post
    So you guy say that the KJV are the only true words of god. But I've got news for ya, KJV stands for the "King James VERSION." This book does not contain the true words of Jesus or God. It's some guys version from the middle ages who just wanted to gain control over his country through the use of "godly" threats. He would claim himself a messenger of god and tell people that what he said were the words of god himself and if they didn't comply they'd just go strait to hell. Not a nice guy.And since at the time every one HAD to have the SAME religion as the king, there was no getting out of his demands. You can't prove this wrong with bible passages like you just so bluntly disprove all of the claims against you. Cause why would a King want to have been found out to be a liar?
    So what do you think contains the true words of Jesus? The Book of Mormon? The Koran? Read and learn, sinner.
    O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



    God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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    • Brother V
      True Christian™ Nitric Oxide
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2006
      • 3481

      #3
      Re: KJV

      Originally posted by IbelievewhatIknow? View Post
      So you guy say that the KJV are the only true words of god. But I've got news for ya, KJV stands for the "King James VERSION." This book does not contain the true words of Jesus or God. It's some guys version from the middle ages who just wanted to gain control over his country through the use of "godly" threats. He would claim himself a messenger of god and tell people that what he said were the words of god himself and if they didn't comply they'd just go strait to hell. Not a nice guy.And since at the time every one HAD to have the SAME religion as the king, there was no getting out of his demands. You can't prove this wrong with bible passages like you just so bluntly disprove all of the claims against you. Cause why would a King want to have been found out to be a liar?
      You have no idea what you are talking about.

      Prior to the KJV1611, the Bible was in Hebrew (for the Old Testament), and the New Testament from the Textus Receptus (mostly Greek). As most people didn't speak or read Hebrew or Greek in English speaking countries, the King set out on an endeavour to allow everyone the ability to read the bible.

      No True Christian(tm) has ever said that King James wrote the bible. Additionally, it is not "some guys" version, it was transcribed by some of the best people at the time.

      You seem to have confused Mohammed with King James.

      YIC
      V
      Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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      • IbelieveIknowwhat?
        Doesn't know very much
         
        • Dec 2007
        • 114

        #4
        Re: KJV

        Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
        So what do you think contains the true words of Jesus? The Book of Mormon? The Koran? Read and learn, sinner.
        Nothing anymore contains the true words. Every last "version" of the bible has been edited to to editor's heart content.
        And just a heads up, the Koran is a completely different book from a different religion worshiping a different god, no Jesus.
        waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!

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        • IbelieveIknowwhat?
          Doesn't know very much
           
          • Dec 2007
          • 114

          #5
          Re: KJV

          Originally posted by Brother V View Post
          You have no idea what you are talking about.

          Prior to the KJV1611, the Bible was in Hebrew (for the Old Testament), and the New Testament from the Textus Receptus (mostly Greek). As most people didn't speak or read Hebrew or Greek in English speaking countries, the King set out on an endeavour to allow everyone the ability to read the bible.

          No True Christian™ has ever said that King James wrote the bible. Additionally, it is not "some guys" version, it was transcribed by some of the best people at the time.

          You seem to have confused Mohammed with King James.

          YIC
          V
          First, you can't say he didn't change it, unless you the devil and are immortal and lived in england in the middle ages you have no prof. My prof is that the different version of the bible are exactly that.....versions, and different from one another so somewhere some how, someone had to change it. The only person with real incentive to do such a thing would have been King James. So how can you say that "only the best" were used in the translation, he could have told those people to write what ever they wanted, thats what kings do, they make people do things against their will.

          I never said he wrote it, he just changed it so he could control every last citizen of his country and just use god as an excuse.
          Mohammed had nothing to do with the bible...and learn to spell endeavor.
          waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!

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          • Talitha
            Deaconess
            Gracious, genteel, kind, tender, and warm True Christian™ Sister
            True Christian™
            • Apr 2026
            • 15118

            #6
            Re: KJV

            Originally posted by IbelievewhatIknow? View Post
            Nothing anymore contains the true words. Every last "version" of the bible has been edited to to editor's heart content.
            And just a heads up, the Koran is a completely different book from a different religion worshiping a different god, no Jesus.
            I'm afraid once again you are incorrect. The Quran does mention Jesus but as a Messenger of Allah.
            Those darned Rags can't even read plain American properly.

            Sister Talitha

            Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


            HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
            being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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            • IbelieveIknowwhat?
              Doesn't know very much
               
              • Dec 2007
              • 114

              #7
              Re: KJV

              Originally posted by Sister Talitha View Post
              I'm afraid once again you are incorrect. The Quran does mention Jesus but as a Messenger of Allah.
              Those darned Rags can't even read plain American properly.
              Does it call him Jesus? Have you read it? If it's such an awefull book why in the world would you have read it, I'm sure it's on your banned books list.
              waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!

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              • IbelieveIknowwhat?
                Doesn't know very much
                 
                • Dec 2007
                • 114

                #8
                Re: KJV

                Originally posted by Sister Talitha View Post
                Those darned Rags can't even read plain American properly.
                American isn't a language, we speak ENGLISH.
                waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!

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                • Talitha
                  Deaconess
                  Gracious, genteel, kind, tender, and warm True Christian™ Sister
                  True Christian™
                  • Apr 2026
                  • 15118

                  #9
                  Re: KJV

                  Originally posted by IbelievewhatIknow? View Post
                  American isn't a language, we speak ENGLISH.
                  It's American English!!!
                  Those Brits Pre-stole our language and pretended they invented it.

                  Did you know Islam is younger than Christianity and them towelheads try and Worship OUR God!!!

                  Sister Talitha

                  Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


                  HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
                  being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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                  • Brother V
                    True Christian™ Nitric Oxide
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 3481

                    #10
                    Re: KJV

                    Originally posted by IbelievewhatIknow? View Post
                    First, you can't say he didn't change it, unless you the devil and are immortal and lived in england in the middle ages you have no prof. My prof is that the different version of the bible are exactly that.....versions, and different from one another so somewhere some how, someone had to change it. The only person with real incentive to do such a thing would have been King James. So how can you say that "only the best" were used in the translation, he could have told those people to write what ever they wanted, thats what kings do, they make people do things against their will.

                    I never said he wrote it, he just changed it so he could control every last citizen of his country and just use god as an excuse.
                    Mohammed had nothing to do with the bible...and learn to spell endeavor.
                    Endeavour is a correct alternate spelling of the word endeavor. It is the version used in the KJV1611. If you were even remotely educated, you might know that.

                    Friend, do you believe in God?

                    YIC
                    v
                    Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                    • IbelieveIknowwhat?
                      Doesn't know very much
                       
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 114

                      #11
                      Re: KJV

                      Originally posted by Sister Talitha View Post
                      It's American English!!!
                      Those Brits Pre-stole our language and pretended they invented it.

                      Did you know Islam is younger than Christianity and them towelheads try and Worship OUR God!!!
                      News flash, Great Britain... they are considerably older than we are. We've been a country since 1776, they have been for several years more. So what? Before the entire world know that this America land existed, what did the English speak? And when their toes touched our soil back in 1492, poof, they started speaking English and then the ENGLISH stole it?!?!? there is a reason the language is NAMED after the people who invented it!

                      duh
                      but this is the topic of another discussion.
                      waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!

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                      • IbelieveIknowwhat?
                        Doesn't know very much
                         
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 114

                        #12
                        Re: KJV

                        Originally posted by Brother V View Post
                        Endeavour is a correct alternate spelling of the word endeavor. It is the version used in the KJV1611. If you were even remotely educated, you might know that.

                        Friend, do you believe in God?

                        YIC
                        v
                        one, The dictionary is where I learn to spell things.
                        and two, I MOST CERTAINLY don't believe in YOURS.
                        You radicals have taken this WHOLE thing WAY too seriously. The teachings of this guy named Jesus was to simply impress basic morals into a society, morals such as don't cheat on your wife or kill anything for any reason. Things like that.
                        Jesus wasn't anymore a son of a God than my left testicle. He was just a seriously wise guy who knew what he was talking about.
                        waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!

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                        • Brother V
                          True Christian™ Nitric Oxide
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                          • Sep 2006
                          • 3481

                          #13
                          Re: KJV

                          Originally posted by IbelievewhatIknow? View Post
                          one, The dictionary is where I learn to spell things.
                          and two, I MOST CERTAINLY don't believe in YOURS.
                          You radicals have taken this WHOLE thing WAY too seriously. The teachings of this guy named Jesus was to simply impress basic morals into a society, morals such as don't cheat on your wife or kill anything for any reason. Things like that.
                          Jesus wasn't anymore a son of a God than my left testicle. He was just a seriously wise guy who knew what he was talking about.
                          Well, if you use the dictionary, you should use it more often. Endeavour is an acceptable spelling. Also, you go on about how the Brits spoke our language first, but then when shown a British spelling of a word, you say it's spelled wrong.

                          Friend, If you don't believe in the God of the Bible, then why are you here? You aren't going to un-convert anyone here. You aren't going to get anyone here to say, "my gosh, I never thought of that".

                          We've heard it all before. Many of us have even said the things that you might say. However, we found True Faith. We found God. We found Jesus.

                          Are you looking for Him, or just out to try and confuse people?

                          Friend, soften your heart to Jesus.

                          YIC
                          V
                          Judges 9:21 And Jotham ran away, and fled, and went to Beer, and dwelt there, for fear of Abimelech his brother.

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                          • JudasReborn
                            Unsaved trash
                             
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 76

                            #14
                            Re: KJV

                            Just use the original Bible, it can't get
                            any more pure than that.

                            P.S. Does anyone notice the gay ads on the top
                            of the screen?
                            For your information, I did not betray Jesus. He requested it. Jesus said to me once: "Tolerance is everything. Remember this." To stop all this confusion, Jesus is NOT the son of God. He himself never EVER said this. He was just simply a very smart man. Live with it. "Women stand above men," as quoted by Jesus when he spoke to me in private, "because God gave them the power to give life."

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                            • IbelieveIknowwhat?
                              Doesn't know very much
                               
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 114

                              #15
                              Re: KJV

                              Originally posted by Brother V View Post
                              Well, if you use the dictionary, you should use it more often. Endeavour is an acceptable spelling. Also, you go on about how the Brits spoke our language first, but then when shown a British spelling of a word, you say it's spelled wrong.

                              Friend, If you don't believe in the God of the Bible, then why are you here? You aren't going to un-convert anyone here. You aren't going to get anyone here to say, "my gosh, I never thought of that".

                              We've heard it all before. Many of us have even said the things that you might say. However, we found True Faith. We found God. We found Jesus.

                              Are you looking for Him, or just out to try and confuse people?

                              Friend, soften your heart to Jesus.

                              YIC
                              V
                              I spell things the way we do here, color not colour. But when she says that the Brits stole our language...thats completely ludicrous.

                              Why an I here? To support all the other people here who think like I do.

                              You found him huh? More like brain washed.You couldn't think for yourself if you were given the chance. And everyone has found god, every person creates god in an image of themselves. So thus a religion is just a bunch of people with the same god.

                              Soften my heart to Jesus? I've got nothing wrong with the guy. It's just his fan club (you) than are the issue.

                              And don't think I've heard all of what you can say before either, and I'm well prepared and well used to it by now.

                              Love thy neighbor, and we are all neighbors in the fact that we are all human.
                              waring makeup and dresses and sleepign with boys doesnt make me a women, looser!

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