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  • Harold Law
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    • Dec 2007
    • 136

    #1

    Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

    Is it possible to revoke every government except gods alone? It says in Matthew that all governments are created by Satan, it only seems right to fight them.
    Ephesians 5:22-24
    22*Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23*For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24*Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
  • Pastor Billy-Reuben
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    On FIRE for Jesus
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    • Sep 2006
    • 5812

    #2
    Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

    If you are going to make a claim like that, I'm afraid you are going to have to cite the chapter and verse. I don't remember reading anything like that in the book of Matthew.

    On the contrary, Dante Scritic, the Bible tells us that we are to obey the government.

    1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
    1st Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
    1st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

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    • Harold Law
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      • Dec 2007
      • 136

      #3
      Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

      The classic passage in which Jesus forbids us to be "archists" (and thereby commands us to be "anarchists") is Mark 10:42-45

      The word translated "rulers" comes from the Greek word from which we derive our word "anarchist." Jesus clearly says His followers are not to be "archists," and that means we are to be "an-archists." In fact, God hates archists

      In the Bible, archists are bad. Jesus says we are not to be archists, and He says the opposite of an archist is a servant.
      I strive to be a servant, not an archist.
      All the other character traits listed at left are examples of service. They are manifestations of a servant's heart. Anyone committed to those character traits will not seize your money to buy bombs, assassinate political opponents, or deprive you of your life, liberty, property, or pursuit of happiness.
      Ephesians 5:22-24
      22*Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23*For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24*Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

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      • JennyD
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        • Dec 2007
        • 9567

        #4
        Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

        Originally posted by dantescritic View Post
        The classic passage in which Jesus forbids us to be "archists" (and thereby commands us to be "anarchists") is Mark 10:42-45

        The word translated "rulers" comes from the Greek word from which we derive our word "anarchist." Jesus clearly says His followers are not to be "archists," and that means we are to be "an-archists." In fact, God hates archists

        In the Bible, archists are bad. Jesus says we are not to be archists, and He says the opposite of an archist is a servant.
        I strive to be a servant, not an archist.
        Um, no.

        See, this is what happens when the Godless read the Bible without guidance from a Pastor or from God.

        Mark 10:42-45
        42But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

        43But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:

        44And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

        45For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
        This is Jesus telling his apostles to take care of each other, and not to seek (or, more realistically, battle for) a leadership position within the group. This has nothing whatsoever to do with government, and everything to do with maintaining group cohesion.

        As Pastor Billy-Reuben has pointed out (and you have conveniently ignored), GOD tells us through Peter in the Bible to be subject to the governments HE has placed over US. Maybe you can "interpret" that to mean that God hates government, but I'm not seeing it.

        I realize you find the sound of your own gums flapping in the breeze as you attempt to demonstrate your intellectual superiority quite enticing. Sadly, it's only so much cow bell to those of us who choose to Listen instead of straining to hear.
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        • Harold Law
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          • Dec 2007
          • 136

          #5
          Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

          The government has never done gods will, only the will of those in charge. Jesus tells us that his fathers kingdom is "Not of this world" therefore any kingdom you support in this world is in direct contradiction with gods word! Perhaps if you Baptists weren't so busy watching your TV Evangelists and buying silver watches you would begin to understand that government contradicts every commandment! Praise Jesus!
          Ephesians 5:22-24
          22*Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23*For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24*Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

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          • JennyD
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            • Dec 2007
            • 9567

            #6
            Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

            Originally posted by dantescritic View Post
            The government has never done gods will, only the will of those in charge. Jesus tells us that his fathers kingdom is "Not of this world" therefore any kingdom you support in this world is in direct contradiction with gods word! Perhaps if you Baptists weren't so busy watching your TV Evangelists and buying silver watches you would begin to understand that government contradicts every commandment! Praise Jesus!
            God has instructed us ("us" includes YOU) to be subject to the governments HE has appointed over us. What part of that don't you understand? GOD appoints the governments. It is up to HIM to decide who rules, not YOU. It is not up to YOU to overthrow the government GOD has created!

            Were we to join you in your anarchist crusade, we would then be disobeying God's Word.

            You're a Paultard, aren't you? Why don't you hop into the Paultardis and take your silly little "quest" to a Ron Paul forum, and stop interfering with God's Work?
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            • Enigmatic Harpo Marx
              Resident ex-satanist
              True Christian™
              • Nov 2007
              • 488

              #7
              Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

              Originally posted by dantescritic View Post
              Jesus tells us that his fathers kingdom is "Not of this world" therefore any kingdom you support in this world is in direct contradiction with gods word!
              Care to explain how you made this jump in "logic"?

              Honestly, I am so tired of you morons who have seen "The Devil's Advocate" one too many times. Look, you live in a Christian nation for God's sake. Quite complaining about the establishment! C'mon, our president is so goddam religious we can't even kill babies for stem cell research. People like you should have forced shock therapy with the volts cranked up to about 50 million.
              Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of Death, I will fear no evil...

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              • Harold Law
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                • Dec 2007
                • 136

                #8
                Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                Psh! I ain't no John Smith worshipper they can all burn in hell with their one hundred wives for all I care! Though I still refuse to see how my political beliefs, just as long as I have faith in Jesus Christ our lord could possibly send me to the lake of mormon.... err fire.
                Ephesians 5:22-24
                22*Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23*For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24*Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

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                • Enigmatic Harpo Marx
                  Resident ex-satanist
                  True Christian™
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 488

                  #9
                  Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                  Originally posted by dantescritic View Post
                  Psh! I ain't no John Smith worshipper they can all burn in hell with their one hundred wives for all I care! Though I still refuse to see how my political beliefs, just as long as I have faith in Jesus Christ our lord could possibly send me to the lake of mormon.... err fire.
                  Ok, I'm gonna explain something to you about computers, you sound like a dumbass so try to keep up. In the computer world there are things called "macros". On this forum there is a macro that takes the word "m o r o n" and turns it into mormon. This is to show that they are synonomous, since the implications of the changed sentances are usually the same. It took me all of five seconds to figure this out when I first joined this forum. Plus the founder of the mormon church was named joseph smith not john smith.
                  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of Death, I will fear no evil...

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                  • Harold Law
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                    • Dec 2007
                    • 136

                    #10
                    Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                    Pastor deacon fred was able to convert a catholic in 59 seconds, I am going to covert a baptist to! You water dunkin, conservative uptight, bible-beatin thousand dollar watch wearin, doomsday reminding, politician kissin little scoundrel!

                    You hear me now.. Baptist. I ain't never been a moron, and I sure as hell am not a mormon in the slightest! Go back and read what Mathew and Revealations say about the outcome of rulers.

                    Glory!
                    Ephesians 5:22-24
                    22*Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23*For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24*Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

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                    • Pastor Ezekiel
                      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                       
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 78556

                      #11
                      Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                      Originally posted by dantescritic View Post
                      Pastor deacon fred was able to convert a catholic in 59 seconds, I am going to covert a baptist to! You water dunkin, conservative uptight, bible-beatin thousand dollar watch wearin, doomsday reminding, politician kissin little scoundrel!

                      You hear me now.. Baptist. I ain't never been a mormon, and I sure as hell am not a mormon in the slightest! Go back and read what Mathew and Revealations say about the outcome of rulers.

                      Glory!
                      Son, have you ever tried reading the entire Bible cover to cover? If you did, you would see how deep in sin you are, how filthy your soul looks to Jesus, and what you need to do in order to avoid an etrnity in hellfire.

                      Don't try taking one or two verses out of context to justify your commie foolishness.
                      Who Will Jesus Damn?

                      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                      • Harold Law
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                        • Dec 2007
                        • 136

                        #12
                        Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                        I'll be laughing from heaven when your "Grand Leader" Bush is under judgement.
                        Ephesians 5:22-24
                        22*Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23*For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24*Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

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                        • Pastor Ezekiel
                          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                           
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 78556

                          #13
                          Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                          Originally posted by dantescritic View Post
                          I'll be laughing from heaven when your "Grand Leader" Bush is under judgement.
                          President Bush was hand-picked by Jesus to lead us in the War on Terror. I mean what could be more obvious? He lost the election and yet became president. How can you question Christ's Divine Plan©?

                          There are no anarchists in Heaven, I assure you.
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                          • Ahimaaz Smith
                            True Christian™
                            True Christian™
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 2549

                            #14
                            Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                            Originally posted by Enigmatic Harpo Marx View Post
                            Ok, I'm gonna explain something to you about computers, you sound like a dumbass so try to keep up.... On this forum there is a macro that takes the word "m o r o n" and turns it into mormon.
                            dantescritic is obviously both a Mormon and a dumbass (acutally, that's kind of redundant). Then again, you're a pussy, so who are you to criticize? Anyway, there's no editing script: Moron, moron, moron, moron, moron, moron. See?

                            Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name.... Jeremiah 10:25

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                            • VictoryOS
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                              • Dec 2007
                              • 5388

                              #15
                              Re: Can one be an Anarchist and a Christian?

                              Originally posted by dantescritic View Post
                              I'll be laughing from heaven when your "Grand Leader" Bush is under judgement.
                              Oh my, you really are confused...
                              Let Jesus Christ Wash You Clean
                              in 2016

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