[Randy Ham]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I'll start by clarifying my beliefs: I reject the idea of an anthropomorphic god who created the universe as we know it. The only thing that will convince me of such an entity is either seeing him myself, or seeing unquestionable, undeniable physical evidence of his existence. There is still something I regard as divine though, and that is the universe itself.
The way I see it, in the off-chance that there is a conscious willpower governing the universe, it is simply a cosmic energy holding the balance as a part of the universe itself, not as a separate entity that created it. I've often speculated that matter itself has a will to form into systems, from the smallest atom, to the human body, to the biosphere, to solar systems, galaxies, and so on. However this is merely a speculation- I can't prove it to be true, so I won't present it as though it is.
I guess the one thing I am sure about is that everything is made of the same most basic particles (even more basic than atoms) and therefore we are all one and equal with every rock, tree, animal, star, and galaxy. We are all members of a flowing and balanced nature and universe, and we should strive to protect nature and our fellow being. That is why I will be studying environmental science and conservation ecology in college- my purpose and calling in life is to help conserve the beautiful wonders that matter has formed.
I suppose technically speaking, this puts me somewhere in the middle of atheism, agnosticism, and pantheism.

[Jedediah]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I'll start by clarifying my beliefs: I reject the idea of an anthropomorphic god who created the universe as we know it. The only thing that will convince me of such an entity is either seeing him myself, or seeing unquestionable, undeniable physical evidence of his existence. There is still something I regard as divine though, and that is the universe itself.
The way I see it, in the off-chance that there is a conscious willpower governing the universe, it is simply a cosmic energy holding the balance as a part of the universe itself, not as a separate entity that created it. I've often speculated that matter itself has a will to form into systems, from the smallest atom, to the human body, to the biosphere, to solar systems, galaxies, and so on. However this is merely a speculation- I can't prove it to be true, so I won't present it as though it is.
I guess the one thing I am sure about is that everything is made of the same most basic particles (even more basic than atoms) and therefore we are all one and equal with every rock, tree, animal, star, and galaxy. We are all members of a flowing and balanced nature and universe, and we should strive to protect nature and our fellow being. That is why I will be studying environmental science and conservation ecology in college- my purpose and calling in life is to help conserve the beautiful wonders that matter has formed.
I suppose technically speaking, this puts me somewhere in the middle of atheism, agnosticism, and pantheism.

So you come to our private Christian forum to spew your ignorance and to proudly proclaim your worship of satan? You are a fool, and you are bound for eternal torments in the fiery pits of hell unless you turn your life around and accept Jesus Christ as your personal LORD and Savior. TODAY.

Son, I strongly encourage you to pull your head out of your ass and quit living in denial of the proof of God written on your twisted little heard and evidenced all around you. You may think you have all the time in the world to get on your knees and let Him enter you with His Love, and that you'd love to put off your inevitable acceptance of Christ (Romans 14:11-12) until your deathbed. Your plan is flawed, however, because God simply may not feel like waiting on you to quit dithering.

Matthew 24:42-44
Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

The Scriptures tell us that after death, there is only Judgment. The time to accept Christ is NOW!

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

II Corinthians 6:1-2
We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

[Randy Ham]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

So you come to our private Christian forum to spew your ignorance and to proudly proclaim your worship of satan? You are a fool, and you are bound for eternal torments in the fiery pits of hell unless you turn your life around and accept Jesus Christ as your personal LORD and Savior. TODAY.

The thread asked for atheists specifically to talk about what gives their lives purpose. I answered the question that was asked, nothing more. I have never claimed to worship satan, nor will I ever.

Son, I strongly encourage you to pull your head out of your ass and quit living in denial of the proof of God written on your twisted little heard and evidenced all around you. You may think you have all the time in the world to get on your knees and let Him enter you with His Love, and that you'd love to put off your inevitable acceptance of Christ (Romans 14:11-12) until your deathbed. Your plan is flawed, however, because God simply may not feel like waiting on you to quit dithering.

Why would I live in denial of a god I knew was there to protect me? I must say, it's a very comforting thought. But I can't believe things simply because they're reassuring. I have to decide whether the reasoning is valid to believe them.
I would think that a god who knows my mind and personality better than I do would find some way of showing himself to me.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

...I would think that a god who knows my mind and personality better than I do would find some way of showing himself to me.

This assumes that the god in question has your interests in mind. As "god" would also be responsible for the over seven billion humans now resident on this planet, let alone how many untold trillions of lifeforms on the billions of planets in the millions of galaxies we know exist in the universe, calling your sentiment presumptuous would be an understatement.

[Randy Ham]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

This assumes that the god in question has your interests in mind. As "god" would also be responsible for the over seven billion humans now resident on this planet, let alone how many untold trillions of lifeforms on the billions of planets in the millions of galaxies we know exist in the universe, calling your sentiment presumptuous would be an understatement.

By that logic, he should also not care that I don't believe in him if he has that much else to worry about.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

By that logic, he should also not care that I don't believe in him if he has that much else to worry about.

Errr, no, just that he doesn't care about making you happy.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Mr. Ham--You are making no sense whatsoever. It's obvious you do not understand God and Jesus are more powerful and real when they stay out of sight.

Just because you feel special, you think they should reveal themselves to you. You can learn of their reality by getting down on your knees and asking for forgiveness.

There might be hope, but it will soon be out of your reach.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I would think that a god who knows my mind and personality better than I do would find some way of showing himself to me.

Showing Himself to you would remove your free will to have blind faith. Your affections for Him would then be mercenary, that is, you would only love Him for the rewards He promises because they are better than the rewards others here on earth can provide. True Christians™ on the other hand, eagerly ignore all possible rewards we might find and enjoy here on earth because we have faith that our Heavenly reward will be superior. We give up relationships with perfectly lovable friends and family should they choose the homosexual lifestyle. We reject providing our daughters with advanced education lest they become prideful and forget that their only purpose in this life is to accept the LORD Jesus as their Savior and Master, by serving their fathers until they are dutifully married and have husbands to serve. We spend hours and hours in prayer rather than spending those same hours offering practical help in times of personal or natural disaster. These things you probably do because you feel an emotional reward for doing so. Like a mercenary, you behave for the highest bidder. Should God reveal Himself to you in such a way that you can't help but to follow Him, it would mean removing your free will to confess your need for Him. We choose God in lieu of greater earthly rewards because we know this life is just the beginning.

\o/

[Randy Ham]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Showing Himself to you would remove your free will to have blind faith. Your affections for Him would then be mercenary, that is, you would only love Him for the rewards He promises because they are better than the rewards others here on earth can provide. True Christians™ on the other hand, eagerly ignore all possible rewards we might find and enjoy here on earth because we have faith that our Heavenly reward will be superior. We give up relationships with perfectly lovable friends and family should they choose the homosexual lifestyle. We reject providing our daughters with advanced education lest they become prideful and forget that their only purpose in this life is to accept the LORD Jesus as their Savior and Master, by serving their fathers until they are dutifully married and have husbands to serve. We spend hours and hours in prayer rather than spending those same hours offering practical help in times of personal or natural disaster. These things you probably do because you feel an emotional reward for doing so. Like a mercenary, you behave for the highest bidder. Should God reveal Himself to you in such a way that you can't help but to follow Him, it would mean removing your free will to confess your need for Him. We choose God in lieu of greater earthly rewards because we know this life is just the beginning.

\o/

If you have two religious people, one who has "seen god" and one who hasn't, then the former has had his free will removed by his vision, and the latter has had his free will removed by churches. Both believe they must follow the same path, and that there is no other option. The problem is that the religion itself doesn't allow for much freedom to think.

[Randy Ham]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Errr, no, just that he doesn't care about making you happy.

I thought this wasn't about making me happy. I thought this was much more important than that.

I feel like if I was specifically designed by a god to think the way I do, then he has the responsibility to show himself to me, if it's important to him that I know of his existence.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

If you have two religious people, one who has "seen god" and one who hasn't, then the former has had his free will removed by his vision, and the latter has had his free will removed by churches. Both believe they must follow the same path, and that there is no other option. The problem is that the religion itself doesn't allow for much freedom to think.

That doesn't even make sense! A religious person knows God without having to see Him. Indeed, we cannot see Him this side of the veil.

For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1 Corinthians 13:12

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

I would think that a god who knows my mind and personality better than I do would find some way of showing himself to me.

And you would think WRONG: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)

For some reason, God has always chosen to select one individual (like Moses or another prophet) and inspire them with His Words and wisdom and speak only to them. The rest of us must believe in that individual (who was led by God - 2 Peter 1:19-21, of course!), or in this late, great age, believe in the BOOK they wrote - the KJV 1611 Bible - which has been translated and translated and passed down through the ages via God's Providence.

Makes sense, doesn't it?

Pastor Ed

[Bitty Boy]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Ok while yes this is a Christian sight. I think it benifits both sides if there are non-christians here.
I myself am an athest and will most probably be banned for being so.
I come here not in hate but to learn from others and impart what I believe to cross analize them both. As an athiest I am happy. I have yet to have sexual realtion, do not pleasure myself, nor am I gay. I am just like you in all aspects minus beliefs. So saying I have no reason to go on or that I will kill myself is not neccassarily true. I am content with life being a moment to moment random event kind of thing.
Saying as well all we do or are good for is to be apart of the inqusition is actually not true as the inqusition was santioned by the church and carried out by its followers. We hold more jobs around than many as well we serve just as much purpuse as you guys do really. Thank you for your time there is more but i shall wait to see what you say to the currents beore continuing.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Analize?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Att. ATHEISTS: What is the Purpose of your SAD,Sorry lives?

Analize?

CROSS analize??!