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  • hockeyfan87
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    • Feb 2008
    • 37

    #1

    Athiesm

    Alright, im posting it in here because there is no where else on here that is appropriate, well in all reality this isnt even appropraite seeing as it isn't a religion. But that's not the point. I am here to make the case for Athiesm, please don't try and tell me i am wrong because i could just as easily say the same thing back. All theories on how the universe came to be are just that, Theories, an idea that is unprovable but probable. By the way, these are my reasons, any other athiests on here are free to add.

    Reason 1) Why should i put my trust in a book that was written well over 6000 years ago and has been translated multiple times. Alot is lost in translation.

    Reason 2) Lucy, Fossils, Homonid skeletons, the footprints of whose name has escaped me at the moment.

    Reason 3) Religion was created 'back in the day' to help people explain waht to them was inexplicable. Now that we have modern sciences and advanced technologies we don't need fables and stories to tell us how something happened, when we could just as well go figure it out through science.

    Reason 4) I wasn't alive back then, and neither were any of you, so how do you know exactly what happened? How do you know that it did? Just because some guy wrote it down in a book doesn't mean its true. Don't beleive everything you read/see.

    Reason 5) I can't see God, I can't touch God, I can't hear God, why should I believe that 'he' is in charge of my life?

    Reason 6) How can one religion have so many different branches? and how can people within those branches convince themselves what is right and wrong depending on their own circumstances?

    Reason 7) How can their be so many different religions? and what gives you the right to think that you are better than the other religions? Their relgions are equally as valid.

    Reason 8 ) How can you put blind faith into something that is so self contradictory?

    Feel free to argue with me and bombard me with bible verses but i really don't think that i will ever convert. I'm not saying that i think you are wrong, but i certainly don't think you are right, every religion in my eyes is equal.
  • Marshall
    Righteous and Patriotic
    Highest body count at the VFW
    True Christian™
    • Oct 2006
    • 3322

    #2
    Re: Athiesm

    Atheism is a cult like Scientology or Mormonism.
    Only an idiot doesn't believe the Son of God, who is God rose from the dead after being killed for everyone who had ever or would ever lives sins. He loves us THAT much! Praise Jesus!
    The Bible explains it all so perfectly that it would take a stunning suspension of disbelief to doubt it. Now turn or burn, there are no grey areas in faith.
    God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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    • hockeyfan87
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      • Feb 2008
      • 37

      #3
      Re: Athiesm

      There are gray areas a plenty, and i am not a person of faith.

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      • Marshall
        Righteous and Patriotic
        Highest body count at the VFW
        True Christian™
        • Oct 2006
        • 3322

        #4
        Re: Athiesm

        Then you will be tormented for your lack of love for Jesus after you die. Eternal torture and pain in Hell.
        Imagine waterboarding only really bad.
        God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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        • WickedWitch
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          • Jan 2007
          • 1366

          #5
          Re: Athiesm

          Originally posted by hockeyfan87 View Post
          Alright, im posting it in here because there is no where else on here that is appropriate, well in all reality this isnt even appropraite seeing as it isn't a religion. But that's not the point. I am here to make the case for Athiesm, please don't try and tell me i am wrong because i could just as easily say the same thing back. All theories on how the universe came to be are just that, Theories, an idea that is unprovable but probable. By the way, these are my reasons, any other athiests on here are free to add.

          Reason 1) Why should i put my trust in a book that was written well over 6000 years ago and has been translated multiple times. Alot is lost in translation.

          Reason 2) Lucy, Fossils, Homonid skeletons, the footprints of whose name has escaped me at the moment.

          Reason 3) Religion was created 'back in the day' to help people explain waht to them was inexplicable. Now that we have modern sciences and advanced technologies we don't need fables and stories to tell us how something happened, when we could just as well go figure it out through science.

          Reason 4) I wasn't alive back then, and neither were any of you, so how do you know exactly what happened? How do you know that it did? Just because some guy wrote it down in a book doesn't mean its true. Don't beleive everything you read/see.

          Reason 5) I can't see God, I can't touch God, I can't hear God, why should I believe that 'he' is in charge of my life?

          Reason 6) How can one religion have so many different branches? and how can people within those branches convince themselves what is right and wrong depending on their own circumstances?

          Reason 7) How can their be so many different religions? and what gives you the right to think that you are better than the other religions? Their relgions are equally as valid.

          Reason 8 ) How can you put blind faith into something that is so self contradictory?

          Feel free to argue with me and bombard me with bible verses but i really don't think that i will ever convert. I'm not saying that i think you are wrong, but i certainly don't think you are right, every religion in my eyes is equal.
          Okay, that was the worst argument for atheism that I have ever seen.
          This space is reserved for posting KJV Scripture ONLY. --ADMIN

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #6
            Re: Athiesm

            Originally posted by Marshall View Post
            Atheism is a cult like Scientology or Mormonism.
            Only an idiot doesn't believe the Son of God, who is God rose from the dead after being killed for everyone who had ever or would ever lives sins. He loves us THAT much! Praise Jesus!
            The Bible explains it all so perfectly that it would take a stunning suspension of disbelief to doubt it. Now turn or burn, there are no grey areas in faith.
            Amen Brother! These atheists are both liars AND fools.

            1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
            23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • hockeyfan87
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              • Feb 2008
              • 37

              #7
              Re: Athiesm

              Why is it that none of you can argue your own case? You only resort to insults and threatening eternal damnation. Its somewhat amusing.

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              • WickedWitch
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                • Jan 2007
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                #8
                Re: Athiesm

                Because you didn't even present an argument for atheism. You just spewed random idiocy, no one could make sense of what you were saying. I could present a better argument for atheism and I'm a Pagan!
                This space is reserved for posting KJV Scripture ONLY. --ADMIN

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                • Wide-Open
                  Director of European Evangelical Outreach
                  A Shining Example of Christ's Love
                  Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
                  True Christian™
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 18449

                  #9
                  Re: Athiesm

                  Originally posted by hockeyfan87 View Post
                  Why is it that none of you can argue your own case? You only resort to insults and threatening eternal damnation. Its somewhat amusing.
                  Why is it that you can't you spell your own religion?
                  Psalm 81:10:
                  I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                  open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                  • hockeyfan87
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                    • Feb 2008
                    • 37

                    #10
                    Re: Athiesm

                    Originally posted by Undecided View Post
                    Because you didn't even present an argument for atheism. You just spewed random idiocy, no one could make sense of what you were saying. I could present a better argument for atheism and I'm a Pagan!
                    By all means go right ahead, like i said they were my reasons for being atheist.

                    because math > english. sorry for my lapse in spelling on an internet forum, where english and spelling count for everything.

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                    • Wide-Open
                      Director of European Evangelical Outreach
                      A Shining Example of Christ's Love
                      Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
                      True Christian™
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 18449

                      #11
                      Re: Athiesm

                      Originally posted by hockeyfan87 View Post
                      Reason 5) I can't see God, I can't touch God, I can't hear God, why should I believe that 'he' is in charge of my life?
                      That's how people get electrocuted.

                      Genesis 26:5
                      Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
                      Psalm 81:10:
                      I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                      open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                      • hockeyfan87
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                        • Feb 2008
                        • 37

                        #12
                        Re: Athiesm

                        Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
                        That's how people get electrocuted.

                        Genesis 26:5
                        Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
                        ?
                        I am a law abiding person, i don't go around commiting crimes. It is highly unlikely that i will ever go to jail, let alone end up on death row.

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                        • Joshua Brooks
                          Christ Certified Ex-Negro - A white man's white man
                          True Christian™
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 257

                          #13
                          Re: Athiesm

                          Originally posted by hockeyfan87 View Post
                          Alright, im posting it in here because there is no where else on here that is appropriate, well in all reality this isnt even appropraite seeing as it isn't a religion. But that's not the point. I am here to make the case for Athiesm, please don't try and tell me i am wrong because i could just as easily say the same thing back. All theories on how the universe came to be are just that, Theories, an idea that is unprovable but probable. By the way, these are my reasons, any other athiests on here are free to add.

                          Reason 1) Why should i put my trust in a book that was written well over 6000 years ago and has been translated multiple times. Alot is lost in translation.

                          Why do you put your trust in scatter brained atheist psuedo-scientist who make up random theories and then exchange them every month for new and "better" ones?

                          In our corner we have God Almighty, who created the Universe and was there from the beginning. And in your corner you have a human being who has created nothing and has only been around for only the last 1% or so of the Universe's 6010 years of existence.

                          Reason 2) Lucy, Fossils, Homonid skeletons, the footprints of whose name has escaped me at the moment.

                          Based on your flawed logic one could claim that the Bible is false because there are gorilla fossils, or bird fossils, or dolphin fossils. The existence of now extinct species of completely distinct and non-human species does not prove that the Bible is false. There are still Neanderthals(aborigines) living to this day in Australia. And there are plenty of other so-called "missing link" sub-species like the sub-Saharan Africa Negroidials and Polacks who still live to this day. I find the theory of evilution to be EXTREMELY racist.

                          Reason 3) Religion was created 'back in the day' to help people explain waht to them was inexplicable. Now that we have modern sciences and advanced technologies we don't need fables and stories to tell us how something happened, when we could just as well go figure it out through science.

                          First, the concept that religion was created to explain the ongoings in the natural environment is pure conjecture. It's a strawman argument.

                          Second, science has never been able to figure anything out. Scientist have OBSERVED many of God's actions and creations, but no scientist worth his psuedo-degree will ever tell you that he understands the very source and underlying reason behind the laws of physics.

                          Reason 4) I wasn't alive back then, and neither were any of you, so how do you know exactly what happened? How do you know that it did? Just because some guy wrote it down in a book doesn't mean its true. Don't beleive everything you read/see.

                          And yet you believe every issue of Scientific America you read, hypocrite.

                          Reason 5) I can't see God, I can't touch God, I can't hear God, why should I believe that 'he' is in charge of my life?

                          I can't see gravity, I can't touch gravity, I can't hear gravity, so why should I believe that something is holding me to this planet?

                          The Hand of God is evident in all creation. Natural Design is an undeniable FACT. The idea that the universe, and our own eco system, is some random happening is utterly ridiculous. And if you want to claim it's not random then you have to admit that everything has been carefully programmed by a programmer. It's either random(and could those produce unpredictable and, well, random occurrences) or intentional(which would show as a set and unchanging plan of action) and we all know intentions stem from a conscious will, not a nothingness. You can't have it both ways.

                          Reason 6) How can one religion have so many different branches? and how can people within those branches convince themselves what is right and wrong depending on their own circumstances?

                          There is only one True Religion and that is True Christianity. PRAISE!!!
                          No "convincing" is needed. God tell us what is right or wrong. No need to think for ourselves.

                          Reason 7) How can their be so many different religions? and what gives you the right to think that you are better than the other religions? Their relgions are equally as valid.

                          There is only one religion: True Christianity. GLORY!!!
                          How can two contradicting doctrines be equally valid? That, like your atheism, makes no sense whatsoever. True Christianity is the True Religion; Therefore, all others are automatically false. That's pretty simple logic.

                          Reason 8 ) How can you put blind faith into something that is so self contradictory?

                          It isn't blind faith. Who are you to dictate to us that we have not directly experienced the power of God, heathen?

                          Feel free to argue with me and bombard me with bible verses but i really don't think that i will ever convert. I'm not saying that i think you are wrong, but i certainly don't think you are right, every religion in my eyes is equal.
                          If you do not wish to convert then why are you here? What do you not comprehend about the words "SAVED UNWELCOME"? You can't even wrap your head around that simple statement and you think you can challenge us in an intellectual debate?

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                          • By_Reason_Alone
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                            #14
                            Re: Athiesm

                            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                            Amen Brother! These atheists are both liars AND fools.

                            1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
                            23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

                            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
                            By insulting someone, even if you are right, you stoop to a level far bellow the person you are insulting. You have just shown your extreme immaturity.
                            God loves us more then we can comprehend, but if we don't love him back, he'll send us to hell to suffer for ever and ever. Amen.

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                            • Talitha
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                              #15
                              Re: Athiesm

                              Originally posted by By_Reason_Alone View Post
                              By insulting someone, even if you are right, you stoop to a level far bellow the person you are insulting. You have just shown your extreme immaturity.
                              Friend, you have just been infractionized for insulting Pastor Ezekiel

                              Sister Talitha

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                              HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
                              being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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