[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

First of all, I am not lonely. Second, if you can prove what a pastor says is true because he/she is a pastor then i will be happy to believe it.

Oh that's easy! You just need to use "Christian Logic" (an oxymoron, I know, but bear with me). You see, the Pastors follow every word in the KJV Bible. And every word in the KJV Bible is right and is completely true/factual. We know this because the Bible tells us so. Thus, anyone following the Word of the Bible is also right. Thus, the Pastors are right. See how easy that was?

[By_Reason_Alone]

Re: Athiesm

Your words of Wisdom have startled and delighted me.

There you are Mr Lonely & Unreasonable, a better answer I could not give you.

First of all, I am not lonely. Second, if you can prove what a pastor says is true because he/she is a pastor then i will be happy to believe it.

[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

Your words of Wisdom have startled and delighted me.

One can't visit this forum for as long as I have without having some of your doctrine rub off them, I suppose.

[Talitha]

Re: Athiesm

Of course not, the Pastors are infallible.

Your words of Wisdom have startled and delighted me.

There you are Mr Lonely & Unreasonable, a better answer I could not give you.

[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

Did Pastor Ezekiel receive an infraction for insulting someone also?

Of course not, the Pastors are infallible.

[By_Reason_Alone]

Re: Athiesm

Friend, you have just been infractionized for insulting Pastor Ezekiel

Did Pastor Ezekiel receive an infraction for insulting someone also?

[Talitha]

Re: Athiesm

By insulting someone, even if you are right, you stoop to a level far bellow the person you are insulting. You have just shown your extreme immaturity.

Friend, you have just been infractionized for insulting Pastor Ezekiel

[By_Reason_Alone]

Re: Athiesm

Amen Brother! These atheists are both liars AND fools.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

By insulting someone, even if you are right, you stoop to a level far bellow the person you are insulting. You have just shown your extreme immaturity.

[Joshua Brooks]

Re: Athiesm

Alright, im posting it in here because there is no where else on here that is appropriate, well in all reality this isnt even appropraite seeing as it isn't a religion. But that's not the point. I am here to make the case for Athiesm, please don't try and tell me i am wrong because i could just as easily say the same thing back. All theories on how the universe came to be are just that, Theories, an idea that is unprovable but probable. By the way, these are my reasons, any other athiests on here are free to add.

Reason 1) Why should i put my trust in a book that was written well over 6000 years ago and has been translated multiple times. Alot is lost in translation.

Why do you put your trust in scatter brained atheist psuedo-scientist who make up random theories and then exchange them every month for new and "better" ones?

In our corner we have God Almighty, who created the Universe and was there from the beginning. And in your corner you have a human being who has created nothing and has only been around for only the last 1% or so of the Universe's 6010 years of existence.

Reason 2) Lucy, Fossils, Homonid skeletons, the footprints of whose name has escaped me at the moment.

Based on your flawed logic one could claim that the Bible is false because there are gorilla fossils, or bird fossils, or dolphin fossils. The existence of now extinct species of completely distinct and non-human species does not prove that the Bible is false. There are still Neanderthals(aborigines) living to this day in Australia. And there are plenty of other so-called "missing link" sub-species like the sub-Saharan Africa Negroidials and Polacks who still live to this day. I find the theory of evilution to be EXTREMELY racist.

Reason 3) Religion was created 'back in the day' to help people explain waht to them was inexplicable. Now that we have modern sciences and advanced technologies we don't need fables and stories to tell us how something happened, when we could just as well go figure it out through science.

First, the concept that religion was created to explain the ongoings in the natural environment is pure conjecture. It's a strawman argument.

Second, science has never been able to figure anything out. Scientist have OBSERVED many of God's actions and creations, but no scientist worth his psuedo-degree will ever tell you that he understands the very source and underlying reason behind the laws of physics.

Reason 4) I wasn't alive back then, and neither were any of you, so how do you know exactly what happened? How do you know that it did? Just because some guy wrote it down in a book doesn't mean its true. Don't beleive everything you read/see.

And yet you believe every issue of Scientific America you read, hypocrite.

Reason 5) I can't see God, I can't touch God, I can't hear God, why should I believe that 'he' is in charge of my life?

I can't see gravity, I can't touch gravity, I can't hear gravity, so why should I believe that something is holding me to this planet?

The Hand of God is evident in all creation. Natural Design is an undeniable FACT. The idea that the universe, and our own eco system, is some random happening is utterly ridiculous. And if you want to claim it's not random then you have to admit that everything has been carefully programmed by a programmer. It's either random(and could those produce unpredictable and, well, random occurrences) or intentional(which would show as a set and unchanging plan of action) and we all know intentions stem from a conscious will, not a nothingness. You can't have it both ways.

Reason 6) How can one religion have so many different branches? and how can people within those branches convince themselves what is right and wrong depending on their own circumstances?

There is only one True Religion and that is True Christianity. PRAISE!!!
No "convincing" is needed. God tell us what is right or wrong. No need to think for ourselves.

Reason 7) How can their be so many different religions? and what gives you the right to think that you are better than the other religions? Their relgions are equally as valid.

There is only one religion: True Christianity. GLORY!!!
How can two contradicting doctrines be equally valid? That, like your atheism, makes no sense whatsoever. True Christianity is the True Religion; Therefore, all others are automatically false. That's pretty simple logic.

Reason 8 ) How can you put blind faith into something that is so self contradictory?

It isn't blind faith. Who are you to dictate to us that we have not directly experienced the power of God, heathen?

Feel free to argue with me and bombard me with bible verses but i really don't think that i will ever convert. I'm not saying that i think you are wrong, but i certainly don't think you are right, every religion in my eyes is equal.

If you do not wish to convert then why are you here? What do you not comprehend about the words "SAVED UNWELCOME"? You can't even wrap your head around that simple statement and you think you can challenge us in an intellectual debate?

[hockeyfan87]

Re: Athiesm

That's how people get electrocuted.

Genesis 26:5
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

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I am a law abiding person, i don't go around commiting crimes. It is highly unlikely that i will ever go to jail, let alone end up on death row.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Athiesm

Reason 5) I can't see God, I can't touch God, I can't hear God, why should I believe that 'he' is in charge of my life?

That's how people get electrocuted.

Genesis 26:5
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

[hockeyfan87]

Re: Athiesm

Because you didn't even present an argument for atheism. You just spewed random idiocy, no one could make sense of what you were saying. I could present a better argument for atheism and I'm a Pagan!

By all means go right ahead, like i said they were my reasons for being atheist.

because math > english. sorry for my lapse in spelling on an internet forum, where english and spelling count for everything.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Athiesm

Why is it that none of you can argue your own case? You only resort to insults and threatening eternal damnation. Its somewhat amusing.

Why is it that you can't you spell your own religion?

[WickedWitch]

Re: Athiesm

Because you didn't even present an argument for atheism. You just spewed random idiocy, no one could make sense of what you were saying. I could present a better argument for atheism and I'm a Pagan!

[hockeyfan87]

Re: Athiesm

Why is it that none of you can argue your own case? You only resort to insults and threatening eternal damnation. Its somewhat amusing.