[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Id like to state that not all 'Juggalo and Juggalettes' are the way youve been informed. I am a juggalette and do not fallow this as a religion, I would also like to state that i do not approve of all of there music either, but in a twisted way these rappers have created a family devoted to the rightful treatment of people and the need for support from others some people just take things to far. I am truely sorry that you have met the more untamed side of the family, but it is much more than it appears to be. I am NOT looking for a fight but i am willing to answer any Q's you have about this.

Perhaps you could start out by telling us how magnets work.

Your eternal servant in Christ,
Sam

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Lord Jesus, please save us from another one...

Id like to state that not all 'Juggalo and Juggalettes' are the way youve been informed. I am a juggalette and do not fallow this as a religion, I would also like to state that i do not approve of all of there music either,

So you're a fan girl who doesn't like the group she's a fan of? Yeah that makes sense.

but in a twisted way these rappers have created a family devoted to the rightful treatment of people and the need for support from others some people just take things to far.

So what, treating people nice has nothing to do with what's right and wrong. If a conman is bilking you out of your life savings, isn't he nice?

2 Corinthians 11
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Even the anti-christ is to bring world peace.

I am truely sorry that you have met the more untamed side of the family, but it is much more than it appears to be. I am NOT looking for a fight but i am willing to answer any Q's you have about this.

No we don't really have any questions, we fully understand about this false cult and realize that unless you leave it you are damned to hell.

Okay, let the screams about how mean we are and how dare we persecute you in OUR board start.

[Meek and Humble]

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All the answers to our questions come from the Bible. Don't yours?

[Anna Love]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Id like to state that not all 'Juggalo and Juggalettes' are the way youve been informed. I am a juggalette and do not fallow this as a religion, I would also like to state that i do not approve of all of there music either, but in a twisted way these rappers have created a family devoted to the rightful treatment of people and the need for support from others some people just take things to far. I am truely sorry that you have met the more untamed side of the family, but it is much more than it appears to be. I am NOT looking for a fight but i am willing to answer any Q's you have about this.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

This will be my last post here.
What am I afraid of? I'm afraid to be caught hanging out with people that make Christians look like rude, inconsiderate bastards. Speaking the truth to someone is always what should happen, but doing it in a loving way will always yield better results than bashing on someone telling them their an idiot and basically driving them further from the truth.

But it's alright for you to call us rude, inconsiderate bastards?

This Castle kid is the perfect example. He came here and defended something you don't agree with, which is going to happen on a public forum, especially a religious one, and how long did he last here? Not more than 5 pages before he felt so hated and threatened that he said he would not return. What do you think you got through to him? What did you show him about being a Christian?

First you have to understand that the only way for a person to accept God is if God allows that person to except Him. Our job is to tell the pure, unadulterated truth. It is conceited and blasphemous to think we can save anyone. If anyone hears our word and ignores it, is is because God has hardened that person's heart and blinded his eyes so that he will not believe, so he can be damned, because God hates him.

[Wide-Open]

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The hypocrisy is an outrage and I can only pray that God will forgive those that mock His name.

Please do NOT pray for me. I hate it when fluffy bunny "Christians" pray for me, it makes me feel dirty.

[Vulture]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

John 3:19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

What are YOU afraid of, Vulture?

Doesn't the Bible say to love your neighbor?

Yes. Does that mean to lie to him and tell him what he wants to hear? No.

It means to tell him the truth, and warn him to flee from the wrath to come. As we are commanded in Leviticus 19:17, "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him." Here, loving your neighbour is defined as rebuking him, and not allowing sin to come upon him. Further, we have never suggested that we don't love our neighbor. We're not saying "We hate fags" - we're saying "God hates fags." The purest, most exalted form of love is to tell people the truth, especially about weighty matters such as life and death, sin, righteousness, judgment to come, Heaven and Hell.

But remember, David said: "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? Am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them mine enemies." Psalm 139:21, 22. David hated God's enemies with a perfect, spiritual hatred (as opposed to the fickle human emotion of hatred), just as all of God's elect do.

1. Why do you think God died for everyone? The Bible says in fact He died for a predestined, elected group of people, not everyone...

2. We are merely trying to save people from hell. Our treatment of people cannot begin to compare with the punishment God will render out.

This will be my last post here.
What am I afraid of? I'm afraid to be caught hanging out with people that make Christians look like rude, inconsiderate bastards. Speaking the truth to someone is always what should happen, but doing it in a loving way will always yield better results than bashing on someone telling them their an idiot and basically driving them further from the truth. This Castle kid is the perfect example. He came here and defended something you don't agree with, which is going to happen on a public forum, especially a religious one, and how long did he last here? Not more than 5 pages before he felt so hated and threatened that he said he would not return. What do you think you got through to him? What did you show him about being a Christian? Because you spew from the mouth with wicked words he left. You guys pushed him further away from God and salvation; not the way it should have happened. Let's just pray he's not some depressed kid that this ICP band targets as you've probably just pushed him further into their grasp.
I understand taking a harsh stance with people, but you don't even know this kid. When Yeshua spoke boldly, he was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducee, people that were in the public eye and everyone knew. He calls them vipers etc because that's what they are and everyone knows it. This forum however doesn't know whom it's talking to on the other end and being rude to them could push them away.
At any rate, I'm done here as I understand the satire in this place. The hypocrisy is an outrage and I can only pray that God will forgive those that mock His name.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Lev 19:18 " 'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.

Did you read the verse just before that one?

Leviticus 19: 17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

God defines loving someone as rebuking him.

Matthew 5: 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Matthew 19:19 Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.' "

Matthew 17:17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

Mark 12:31 The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Mark 12:33, Luke 10:27, Romans 13:9, Galatians 5:14

Mark 16:16, Luke 9:60, Romans 13:2, Galatians 5:12

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

I already said that I agree with your stance on this juggalo/ICP nonsense. There is no need to warn me against it.
Just because you dislike someone doesn't mean you don't show them love. Psalm 25: 21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat;
if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. 22 In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head,
and the LORD will reward you.
Do you think Paul walked the streets preaching hate or did he show the love of Christ to everyone he met? Everything I've read about the man leans in the direction of love.
Your comparison to keeping ice cream from your kids is irrelevant as that is teaching them that they don't always get what they want where we are talking about treating people with respect and showing them love and compassion as taught by Jesus.

One of the good Brothers on here, did a great write up on how Jesus was not the peace loving hippie that everyone thinks he was.

Give me a bit and I'll find it.

Edit:

Ah, Here it is, "Jesus is impolite, deal with it"

Many scriptural references showing just how "compassionate" Jesus really was.

[Vulture]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Are you one of our people? Are you our neighbour?

We do have Christian love for you, why do you think we're trying to warn you about this dangerous cult that is going to send you straight to hell? Just because you love someone doesn't mean you're always nice to them. I'm sure my boys think I'm mean when I wont let them eat a whole tub of ice cream, they think I'm mean because I won't buy a game console, doesn't mean I don't love them.

And you're not exactly persecuting us. You're just on a hell bound path.

I already said that I agree with your stance on this juggalo/ICP nonsense. There is no need to warn me against it.
Just because you dislike someone doesn't mean you don't show them love. Psalm 25: 21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat;
if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. 22 In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head,
and the LORD will reward you.
Do you think Paul walked the streets preaching hate or did he show the love of Christ to everyone he met? Everything I've read about the man leans in the direction of love.
Your comparison to keeping ice cream from your kids is irrelevant as that is teaching them that they don't always get what they want where we are talking about treating people with respect and showing them love and compassion as taught by Jesus.

My neighbors are not juggalo scum. My neighbors are Christians.

Do you seriously contend that Jesus wants us to love unrepentant sinners? Why did He create hell then?

I've shown you, can you show me the scripture that says neighbor means only other believers rather than everyone? And could you explain the story of the Good Samaritan?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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My neighbors are not juggalo scum. My neighbors are Christians.

Do you seriously contend that Jesus wants us to love unrepentant sinners? Why did He create hell then?

Rom. 9:22-24: [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Lev 19:18 " 'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord. Matthew 5: 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. Matthew 19:19 Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.' " Mark 12:31 The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." Mark 12:33, Luke 10:27, Romans 13:9, Galatians 5:14

Are you one of our people? Are you our neighbour?

We do have Christian love for you, why do you think we're trying to warn you about this dangerous cult that is going to send you straight to hell? Just because you love someone doesn't mean you're always nice to them. I'm sure my boys think I'm mean when I wont let them eat a whole tub of ice cream, they think I'm mean because I won't buy a game console, doesn't mean I don't love them.

And you're not exactly persecuting us. You're just on a hell bound path.

[Vulture]

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So in other words, you can't find any Scriptures to back up your ridiculous claims.

Lev 19:18 " 'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord. Matthew 5: 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. Matthew 19:19 Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.' " Mark 12:31 The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." Mark 12:33, Luke 10:27, Romans 13:9, Galatians 5:14

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

So in other words, you can't find any Scriptures to back up your ridiculous claims.

[Vulture]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Can you post any Scriptures that indicate that God wants us to tolerate unrepentant degenerates?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

No need for me to post an intro thread as I highly doubt I'll be returning now that I figured out where it is that I landed.

If you really need me to post scripture that speaks of loving your neighbor as you would yourself, then I'm the one that should have all those bible college and pastor icons under my name and not you.

1 Corinthians 13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

That's about all I need to say to sum up this place. The whole lot of you treating people like dirt is just beyond me and I know that the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, the true living God that sent His son to die on that cross for you, me and everyone would NEVER treat someone the way you all do. It's a disgrace to His Holy Name.