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  • The Pure Boy
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    • Aug 2009
    • 14

    #571
    Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

    So..whats worse, a Juggalo or a goth? they both seem pretty bad, but which should I avert contact with the most?

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    • demiroyal
      Confirmed Enemy of God
      • Sep 2009
      • 13

      #572
      Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

      Throwing my two cents in. Not every person is the same, we all know some one can be a Christian and still be wicked and just not show it. It's the same. No matter what kind of gang club group you are in that has Thousands of members theres always going to be the good members, the violent members, the possers, people who are clueless, there will always be some kind of member in some group that completely stands against what they joined or what they are apart of. Take for instance I have thought about being Juggalo "THOUGHT" for the sole fact that its a family thing. I have been out casted by my family before and my friends and they are ALWAYS there to pick me up give me a bed and help me. They have never pushed this on me at all. Then I have seen the Juggalos that make me wonder is this a satanic cult? Many people interpret things differently and I for one believe what I believe and they can believe what they believe. As for it is now the group of Juggalos I hang with are all majority Christian and all of them are here because one way or another we have been out casted for choosing a belife or standing up against something.

      Now ICP does go against what I believe to an extent, but they are VERY VERY subliminal. I do agree yes their music is vulgar, and its explicit but the concept behind it dose say alot. Really you have to look at their music as one big giant metaphor, they are not making a new religion or a false religion. In my oppinion they are taking everything that has happend and what is said in the Bible and are using different ways to make it known to people and correct me if I am wrong but does that go against God. Taking his word and projecting it in a different way? They are not creating a new religion they are not going against God, but you have to look because in my eyes some of those lyrics are going with God. Pyscodelic Records is metal and rap with hard core vulgarity but alot and I mean ALOT of their bands and group members are connected to God some one and they are proud to say it.

      I think being a Juggalo or Ette is fine as long as YOU are in it for the right reason, and what you blieve in the right reason. But I don't know what is the right reason for "YOU" so I can't tell you that.

      But agian Juggalo to me and my friends we are Christian, we are in it as a family, and we are in it because one way or another some one has rejected us for who we are and what we stand for and to us this was the meaning behind why this group was created back as far as we can find so we stick to the old way. We are not in it for druinking, drugs, fighting, and violence.

      Theres my say, Thank you.

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      • demiroyal
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Sep 2009
        • 13

        #573
        Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

        and correct me if I am wrong but does that go against God. Taking his word and projecting it in a different way?

        Sorry what I meant by this is not project it in a different way "Alter it" but more or less say it in a different way with the same exact meaning =).

        I also know that this is your guys grounds not mine or the juggalos but I for one am a very kind hearted person and thats the way I see most of my Christian friends. I would hope that you guys changed the tags on here its very offending to some people.

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        • demiroyal
          Confirmed Enemy of God
          • Sep 2009
          • 13

          #574
          Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

          Originally posted by demiroyal View Post
          and correct me if I am wrong but does that go against God. Taking his word and projecting it in a different way?

          Sorry what I meant by this is not project it in a different way "Alter it" but more or less say it in a different way with the same exact meaning =).

          I also know that this is your guys grounds not mine or the juggalos but I for one am a very kind hearted person and thats the way I see most of my Christian friends. I would hope that you guys changed the tags on here its very offending to some people.
          And I just got a warning through PM for this post..... may I ask how come?

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          • Talitha
            Deaconess
            Gracious, genteel, kind, tender, and warm True Christian™ Sister
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2025
            • 15118

            #575
            Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

            Originally posted by demiroyal View Post
            And I just got a warning through PM for this post..... may I ask how come?
            That makes 3 Posts in a row, foul Sinner!

            Begone Demon!
            Shoo!

            Sister Talitha

            Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


            HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
            being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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            • demiroyal
              Confirmed Enemy of God
              • Sep 2009
              • 13

              #576
              Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

              Please quote any thing I said that I may have sinned, just stating a point of view. Never said I was or am part of any cult for all you know I am some sweet boy who attends church every day. I am a bit lost like I said just a point of view but its cool. I accept all and help all, and most of all I listen without judging, and I see peoples oppinions and learn from them instead of casting them out and labeling them.
              I guess it must also be a sin that my music library has every song on it from
              Sonic flood - here I am to worship
              to
              Eminem - cleaning out my closet.

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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78551

                #577
                Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                Originally posted by demiroyal View Post
                Please quote any thing I said that I may have sinned, just stating a point of view. Never said I was or am part of any cult for all you know I am some sweet boy who attends church every day. I am a bit lost like I said just a point of view but its cool. I accept all and help all, and most of all I listen without judging, and I see peoples oppinions and learn from them instead of casting them out and labeling them.
                I guess it must also be a sin that my music library has every song on it from
                Sonic flood - here I am to worship
                to
                Eminem - cleaning out my closet.
                What part of "We are not interested in your unsaved opinions" did you not understand?

                This is a Christian forum. Start Praising Jesus or out you go!
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                • demiroyal
                  Confirmed Enemy of God
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 13

                  #578
                  Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                  I am a Christian and I do praise Jesus I am just informing you on the side that you guys work so oh so very hard to ignore. There are two sdies to a quarter there are two sides to this topic and yet you feel that you have to BOMB NUKE and cast the sign of HELL upon any one who bears the name ICP Psyco or Juggalo when I have seen both sides. I have seen the effects and after math of the bad side.. but you have to understand not every person is the same not every group or belife will be carried the same by every person. There will be people who take it to far and give it a bad name but there will be people who know the true values and stick to what it was suppose to meant. I am sorry for voicing my oppinion but it always feels good to get it out .. especially past Ezik, but as much as i really really really really REALLY want to drop my own NUKE im gonna do the nice thing and keep my tounge held.

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                  • Pastor Ezekiel
                    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                     
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 78551

                    #579
                    Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                    Originally posted by demiroyal View Post
                    I am a Christian and I do praise Jesus I am just informing you on the side that you guys work so oh so very hard to ignore. There are two sdies to a quarter there are two sides to this topic and yet you feel that you have to BOMB NUKE and cast the sign of HELL upon any one who bears the name ICP Psyco or Juggalo when I have seen both sides. I have seen the effects and after math of the bad side.. but you have to understand not every person is the same not every group or belife will be carried the same by every person. There will be people who take it to far and give it a bad name but there will be people who know the true values and stick to what it was suppose to meant. I am sorry for voicing my oppinion but it always feels good to get it out .. especially past Ezik, but as much as i really really really really REALLY want to drop my own NUKE im gonna do the nice thing and keep my tounge held.
                    Your threats have been passed along to the DOF and the FBI, along with your personal information. Expect a knock on your door when you least expect it.

                    Go back and read this thread from the beginning, and you will see clear proof that it is impossible to be a Christian and a juggle-o at the same time.
                    Who Will Jesus Damn?

                    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                    • demiroyal
                      Confirmed Enemy of God
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 13

                      #580
                      Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                      Hehehehe guys check this out I must mentally or psycically be threatening him because I just went through every thing I have said around what 3 times.. no threats?

                      WAIT WAIT I GOT IT!

                      Im gonna nuke and bomb him with text words... YAY ME CHECK THIS OUT!

                      --------------------\
                      \
                      \
                      NUKE & TEXT |
                      BOMB /
                      run!!! /
                      ------------------- /

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                      • Levi Jones
                        Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                        Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                        Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                         
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 13930

                        #581
                        Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                        Originally posted by demiroyal View Post
                        Please quote any thing I said that I may have sinned, just stating a point of view. Never said I was or am part of any cult for all you know I am some sweet boy who attends church every day. I am a bit lost like I said just a point of view but its cool. I accept all and help all, and most of all I listen without judging, and I see peoples oppinions and learn from them instead of casting them out and labeling them.
                        I guess it must also be a sin that my music library has every song on it from
                        Sonic flood - here I am to worship
                        to
                        Eminem - cleaning out my closet.
                        You are a sweet boy alright.

                        Juggalism is a cult. The internets tell us the following.

                        It is a real religion. Due to the fact that Juggalos come from all faith backgrounds, it would be difficult to describe the higher power, or God, in a way that would be understood by everyone if we didn't call it the Dark Carnival. The place of happiness and peace in the afterlife is called Shangri-la, the place of punishment and regret is called Hell's Pit.
                        As with any other religion, Juggaloism sets out guidelines for behavior, such as don't hate on other Juggalos, no domestic violence, racism, things like that. We have our own clergy, religious meetings, and are recognized by the government as a religion. The hatchetman is a valid religious symbol to those who believe in Juggaloism and is therefore protected by religious freedom. We are in no way a cult, because we do not require money or blind obedience from members.
                        Some of the actions of the Fellowship of Juggalos (a church started for Juggalos), have been the Juggalo Suicide Prevention line, care packages for pregnant Juggalettes, and monetary assistance (out of the clergy's pockets) for members in need.
                        Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                        • demiroyal
                          Confirmed Enemy of God
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 13

                          #582
                          Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                          Ok where are you not see'ing what im am saying. Its very obvious that every one who has any power or say on this borad uses it so they look good and that the person who is fighting for a oppinion looks like an idiot. Yes there are two sides to it and keep in mind I am still not a juggalo I am just fighting for people who are and in which some are my best friends. Take a quarter with 2 sides picture the bad side of Juggalo and then the good side. Bad side is one who worships the Hatchet idol and carrys out rituals based on Juggalo while people like us use the symbol and the basic words that were laid down as a friend staying close together and looking out for each other.

                          Yes Juggalos are bad, but you need to be sure which ones are and which ones are not.

                          Basicly You can see juggalo as two different groups there are the die hard kill all f*k em up juggalos and there are ones who use the symbol as a mark to let others know that they are welcomed there is not racist there is not hate. For my friends and a very big majority of jaggalos they use that symbol as a way to show what I just said above.. safe non racist non hated people and that they are welcome with us. and then there are the freaks who bear that symbol and run around making it look horrible.. just kinda understand where I am coming from with it.

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                          • demiroyal
                            Confirmed Enemy of God
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 13

                            #583
                            Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                            But its cool im done I already know this is a fight in which my say wont mean the slightest thing. I just know that my friends have the mark of the hatchet and to them it means that they are a group and that they are a family. Any one who has the mark to them is a friend and will always be welcome.

                            Just because ICP uses different words to describe the same thing that is spoken.. its a Metaphor. Now im not psycic they could be doing something else but it seems to me this is subliminal and a metaphor but they are telling Juggalos to follow Christ. Please youtube the song or lyric check the song Thy Unveiling and tell me.

                            As for now I think its safe to be apart of a GROUP with the hatchet to represent a symbol meaning this is a safe place and your welcome while still worshiping Christ. There is no contract you sign stating that once you call your self a Juggalo all relations with Christ are gone, so untill the Bible says " If your a Juggalo you can't be a Christian" I consider myself right and thers really not much you can do about my free will. Yup thats right IM right your WRONG I WIN you lose.. and thats all for the simple fact that GOD gave us free will and with my free will I choose to think I am RIGHT and YOU are WRONG..

                            Peace, love, and Chicken Greese

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                            • demiroyal
                              Confirmed Enemy of God
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 13

                              #584
                              Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                              Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                              Please post the verse here where it says any of that. Where does the Bible say that God loves queers, witches, liars, atheists, etc?

                              Don't come in here blaspheming boy! Put up or shut up.
                              John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life..

                              For God so loved THE WORLD
                              "THE WORLD"
                              Not just Christians, not just white people, not just the saved people.
                              THE WHOLE ENTIRE POPULATED WORLD!

                              Ezekiel you just got OWNED!

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                              • Levi Jones
                                Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                                Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                                Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                                 
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 13930

                                #585
                                Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

                                Originally posted by demiroyal View Post
                                Ok where are you not see'ing what im am saying. Its very obvious that every one who has any power or say on this borad uses it so they look good and that the person who is fighting for a oppinion looks like an idiot. Yes there are two sides to it and keep in mind I am still not a juggalo I am just fighting for people who are and in which some are my best friends. Take a quarter with 2 sides picture the bad side of Juggalo and then the good side. Bad side is one who worships the Hatchet idol and carrys out rituals based on Juggalo while people like us use the symbol and the basic words that were laid down as a friend staying close together and looking out for each other.

                                Yes Juggalos are bad, but you need to be sure which ones are and which ones are not.

                                Basicly You can see juggalo as two different groups there are the die hard kill all f*k em up juggalos and there are ones who use the symbol as a mark to let others know that they are welcomed there is not racist there is not hate. For my friends and a very big majority of jaggalos they use that symbol as a way to show what I just said above.. safe non racist non hated people and that they are welcome with us. and then there are the freaks who bear that symbol and run around making it look horrible.. just kinda understand where I am coming from with it.
                                I'm sorry. I can't understand what you are saying. Could you please post it in American next time?
                                Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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