[Brother Temperance]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

I do not believe any mortal can really say who God will and will not accept.

Correct. Only God can say that. Luckily, He left us a whole book saying what He does and doesn't want us to do.

Just as Forum Patrons there is nothing you can really say which will make way with any Juggalo. It seems our views may be too much of polar opposites.

Yes. We love Christ, you love retarded demons dressed as child molesters. It doesn't get much more opposite than that.

I will not say I agree with what many of you have said, I will say that I feel many of the forum Patrons, oddly enough the actual spiritual and religious figures (Rev. and Pastors) have seem to be the more immature of the posters, save for a handful of Juggalos who have replied.

Yes, but is it plausible that our Reverends, Pastors and Ushers could be a bunch of immature drunken idiots? No, that is clearly implausible, so Satan must be misleading you. Yet more proof of why God is right.

As I feel this was the real message behind Christ, If the Bible is correct then we are ALL gifted with the divine spark of the creator made in his spiritual image.

Please quote scripture to support your extremist argument, if you can.

Feel free to attempt to respond, if you do, please attempt to be mature about it. As I trust each and every one of you has the ability to hold a discussion with someone on the opposing site of a topic and discuss it with a open mind. I ask none of you to compromise your position on the subject. But rather only extend a bit of courtesy and respect when addressing me as I have attempted to do here.

Best of wishes.

I can't wait for God to kill you like how He smote Hitchens and Jong-Il. Praise!

[Juggalinux]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Brother Temperance, I was pleased to see someone reply. You had asked me to site scripture in regards to to make being created in the lord's image. I believe you are familiar with Genesis 1:27.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

To me this seems as though this is a metaphor of sorts. Now I make no claim to be a expect on Genesis. But the way I read is the Lord made us in his spiritual image. As god could never be confined to a physical image. I would believe that being the Creator of all things, space and time, he would not need to express his will to bring himself into a physical form. Until the coming of Jesus that is. And Brother Temperence, I do not remember ever saying I worship ICP or demons for that matter. As I do not remember sharing my religion nor my religious belief. And I disagree, God did not leave us this book, scholars who he spoke through did. And please do note I never said any of the Pastors or Reverends your drunkards.

I can't wait for God to kill you like how He smote Hitchens and Jong-Il. Praise!

What a rather hateful thing to say to someone, but that is ok. I respect your opinion. Please educate me as to Hitchens is, I am not familiar with this name or their doings.

[Youth Pastor Marty]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Brother Temperance, I was pleased to see someone reply. You had asked me to site scripture in regards to to make being created in the lord's image. I believe you are familiar with Genesis 1:27.



To me this seems as though this is a metaphor of sorts. Now I make no claim to be a expect on Genesis. But the way I read is the Lord made us in his spiritual image. As god could never be confined to a physical image. I would believe that being the Creator of all things, space and time, he would not need to express his will to bring himself into a physical form. Until the coming of Jesus that is. And Brother Temperence, I do not remember ever saying I worship ICP or demons for that matter. As I do not remember sharing my religion nor my religious belief. And I disagree, God did not leave us this book, scholars who he spoke through did. And please do note I never said any of the Pastors or Reverends your drunkards.


What a rather hateful thing to say to someone, but that is ok. I respect your opinion. Please educate me as to Hitchens is, I am not familiar with this name or their doings.

The Lord created good Baptist Christians in His own image. It's easy to tell how sinful one is by how far they tend to stray from God's original intentions. If Jesus were to visit us today, I don't see Him arriving as a pale, overweight outcast who dresses in black and wears clown makeup to offend his parents.

[Juggalinux]

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The Lord created good Baptist Christians in His own image. It's easy to tell how sinful one is by how far they tend to stray from God's original intentions. If Jesus were to visit us today, I don't see Him arriving as a pale, overweight outcast who dresses in black and wears clown makeup to offend his parents.

I differently agree with you on that one, save for your interpretative of Genesis 1:27.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Please forgive me if this is too long, But I had to make a few notes. Please keep in mind I respect each and every one of your opinions, However there is my reply to what some have said.

My friend I have to disagree with you, God did not choosen American as the Language because American is not a Language, in America we primary speak English. However I guess in a sense you are half right as I believe it is now called American English.

I can tell you have not traveled extensively. Many people are under the false assumption that "English-speaking" countries are able to communicate seamlessly with each other.

Not true.

A combination of military service, subsequent contractor assignments, and mission work has seen me all over the map. I'll give some examples that you can test once you get a passport:

1. Go to any train station in northern England and say you want a round-trip ticket to Kings Cross.

2. Go to an office building in Zimbabwe and yell out, "I need a rubber!"

3. Go to South Africa and tell someone you want a "fanny pack."

4. Go to a San Francisco street corner and call out, "I'd like a tossed salad!"

etc.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Jack O'fagan]

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Agreed, I live in the south of England but I cannot communicate with a geordie from Newcastle using English, totally hopeless. No, we can only understand each other if we use American.

YIC

Jack

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Brother Temperance, I was pleased to see someone reply. You had asked me to site scripture in regards to to make being created in the lord's image. I believe you are familiar with Genesis 1:27.



To me this seems as though this is a metaphor of sorts. Now I make no claim to be a expect on Genesis. But the way I read is the Lord made us in his spiritual image. As god could never be confined to a physical image. I would believe that being the Creator of all things, space and time, he would not need to express his will to bring himself into a physical form. Until the coming of Jesus that is.

So, you're saying that God wouldn't incarnate Himself into a physical form, until He did it?

And Brother Temperence, I do not remember ever saying I worship ICP or demons for that matter. As I do not remember sharing my religion nor my religious belief.

Are you a juggalo or not?

And I disagree, God did not leave us this book, scholars who he spoke through did.

That's like saying that I didn't write this post, my keyboard and computer did.

What a rather hateful thing to say to someone, but that is ok. I respect your opinion. Please educate me as to Hitchens is, I am not familiar with this name or their doings.

Christopher Hitchens. He mocked God, so God smote him. Just like he'll smite you.

[Juggalinux]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

So, you're saying that God wouldn't incarnate Himself into a physical form, until He did it?

The first and only time the bible speaks of the Word being incarnate into the flesh was Jesus Christ. It says "In the beginning, there was God, and there was the Word, and the word was God and the word was with god. " The greek word that it is talking about that is translated into "Word" is actually Logoss, which means "Roughly and loosely" God's Law. So if in the beginning there was God and God's Law was God, if God and his law had even been made flesh as they were that would be the son of God Jesus Christ. And before that, since Christ was the First coming of Christ. God had never been made flesh. So when God created man in his image how could he create man in his Physical image when the Image of God has always been Logoss or TheTruth/God's Law
Are you a juggalo or not?

Are you a juggalo or not?

Yes as a fan of the music, NOT as a follower or Worshiper of the performers.
That's like saying that I didn't write this post, my keyboard and computer did.

Christopher Hitchens. He mocked God, so God smote him. Just like he'll smite you.

Ahh ok, thanks for the explanation.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

The first and only time the bible speaks of the Word being incarnate into the flesh was Jesus Christ. It says "In the beginning, there was God, and there was the Word, and the word was God and the word was with god. " The greek word that it is talking about that is translated into "Word" is actually Logoss, which means "Roughly and loosely" God's Law. So if in the beginning there was God and God's Law was God, if God and his law had even been made flesh as they were that would be the son of God Jesus Christ. And before that, since Christ was the First coming of Christ. God had never been made flesh. So when God created man in his image how could he create man in his Physical image when the Image of God has always been Logoss or TheTruth/God's Law

You're using a whole lot of words to say not very much there. If God wanted us to learn Greek, He wouldn't have given us the King James Bible. You can tell we're made in God's image, because Christ looked like us. If He'd looked like a dinosaur or a jellyfish or a big Cthulu-type thing or one of those silly Aztec birds, we'd know that we weren't made in God's physical image, but Christ was a man, so that settles that.

Yes as a fan of the music, NOT as a follower or Worshiper of the performers.

You must be a pretty big follower of the performers to call yourself "Juggalinux". Out of 10 characters in your username, 6 of them are part of an Insane Clown Posse reference. That makes your identity 3/5 juggalo, as far as I can tell. Not to mention that you signed up here and immediately dived into this cesspit of a thread in order to defend your clown comrades. So are you actually a true juggalo, or just lukewarm?

[Juggalinux]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

You're using a whole lot of words to say not very much there. If God wanted us to learn Greek, He wouldn't have given us the King James Bible. You can tell we're made in God's image, because Christ looked like us. If He'd looked like a dinosaur or a jellyfish or a big Cthulu-type thing or one of those silly Aztec birds, we'd know that we weren't made in God's physical image, but Christ was a man, so that settles that.

That is a rather absurd assumption, Christ was turned flesh and took a human form because that is the image in which man can understand. Do you honestly think anyone would have taken Christ serious if we appeared as a giant cluster of pasta and meatballs in the sky? I should think not. And as a matter of fact, how do you know god did not want us to learn Latin or greek in order to understand the bible as those were the first languages the bible was written in. Next your going to say nothing was lost in translation?

You must be a pretty big follower of the performers to call yourself "Juggalinux". Out of 10 characters in your username, 6 of them are part of an Insane Clown Posse reference. That makes your identity 3/5 juggalo, as far as I can tell. Not to mention that you signed up here and immediately dived into this cesspit of a thread in order to defend your clown comrades. So are you actually a true juggalo, or just lukewarm?[/QUOTE]


Actually you are incorrect. 1/2 of my username is representative of "Juggalos" hence the "Jugga" part, then second half "Linux" is a tribute to the operating system I choose to use on my computer. Or is not using Microsoft considered a sin as well.

I really hate to seem like I am poking fun at you sir, but your arguments are rather loose and to some extents, such as the username, pure nitpicking. While I do thank you for the information which has allowed me to place consideration on things. I have found this discussion, somewhat enlightening, and I do use that term rather loosely. I wish you the best of luck in all that you pursue.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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That is a rather absurd assumption, Christ was turned flesh and took a human form because that is the image in which man can understand. Do you honestly think anyone would have taken Christ serious if we appeared as a giant cluster of pasta and meatballs in the sky? I should think not.

Genesis 1:26-27.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

[matmcfad]

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[QUOTE=Juggalinux;827832] as a matter of fact, how do you know god did not want us to learn Latin or greek in order to understand the bible as those were the first languages the bible was written in. Next your going to say nothing was lost in translation?/QUOTE]

Everyone knows that the Catholic church pours millions into spreading lies and rumors about translations and lost meanings in an effort to discredit the King James Bible. The King James Bible was copied directly from the Received Texts. If we weren't meant to read it in english the Lord would not have moved the Puritans to translate it under threat of death and persecution.

[Juggalinux]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

and once again, this was the spiritual image. As God had not yet became physical. But regardless i believe we are just going to go around in circles. But a bit off topic. What is your take on what is meant by "Us" in the above passage. Some would say. if God were truely a single entity that is not what he would say. I personally believe that by "us" he is referring to himself and the holy spirit.

[James Hutchins]

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God has always been physical. He was never 'some vapor in the upper firmament'.

God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one and the same, the Bible is quite clear on the Trinity.

[Firehawk]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Uh... wow. You guys seriously hate a lot of things. This is my first post so I decided to tackle something I know very well. I've been listening to Insane Clown Posse for a long time now.

I like Insane Clown Posse a lot. Yes, I understand that their lyrics are violent, extreme to you or what have you but what isn't now of days? It's silly for you to believe that all violence comes from bands and rap groups like this. Violence has been here since humans have been here. There is no sheltering from it or shying away. There's violence and depravity in the bible. So how can you judge? It's not your right to. Not all people who listen to Insane Clown Posse are what you pick and choose out of what you want to believe they are. I am a well-adjusted man who will listen to anything that he likes, thank you.

The whole gang thing is stupid. We are not a gang. How long did it take the government to find one person? That's like saying that Christians are a gang.

Also, you miss a lot when you listen to you want to. There is a lot of good stuff that Insane Clown Posse that is true.

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I think I stated my case.