[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Dear Degenerate;

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

PS. You might want to take a look at my sermon on the subject of judging others. You might learn something. It's HERE.

[Nobar King]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

You idiotic hypocrites are what gives christians a bad name!

Since when do Christians have a bad name? Christianity is a religion of peace and tolerance, and is practiced by people in every country in the world. At least some people recognize the importance of belonging to the one true faith.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, fi8rst take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matthew 7:1-5

Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you. Luke 6: 37-38

Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? Romans 2:1-3

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14: 1-13

You idiotic hypocrites are what gives christians a bad name! Never ever judge the whole by a small percentage, and maybe do a little more reading before passing judgement. Even your GOD tells you not to pass judgement. All this horrible music is a way to express ourselves! We do not do these things that we sing about, we would like to but killing is wrong as is bigotry(and what you are doing here is bigotry!).And we are so not a religion! This church needs to learn the real meaning of being a christian and get their heads out of each others arses. To the person that said Juggalos shouldn't get married NONE OF YOU SHOULD BE RAISING KIDS, your closed minds is what is wrong with the world. If you say we are going to hell every single one of you idiots is going with us! Not all of us are bad people I am a member of society and help out those in more need than me even though I am broke and barely feed my family. So seriously FOOK OOF and learn tolerance. Remember we are Americans and have freedom of religion and many different beliefs and cultures here

All of the scripture you posted supports us, thank you.
You will find no hipercrites among True Christians.

YiC

Jack

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matthew 7:1-5

Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you. Luke 6: 37-38

Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? Romans 2:1-3

Even though every scripture you posted supports our argument that our judgment is not hypocritical since we walk in perfect Faith.

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. Romans 14: 1-13

Way to quote an argument on whether to eat meat or not.

Let's pretend you are right. Let's say no one has a right to judge others according to the Bible.

You idiotic hypocrites are what gives christians a bad name! Never ever judge the whole by a small percentage, and maybe do a little more reading before passing judgement. Even your GOD tells you not to pass judgement. All this horrible music is a way to express ourselves! We do not do these things that we sing about, we would like to but killing is wrong as is bigotry(and what you are doing here is bigotry!).And we are so not a religion! This church needs to learn the real meaning of being a christian and get their heads out of each others arses. To the person that said Juggalos shouldn't get married NONE OF YOU SHOULD BE RAISING KIDS, your closed minds is what is wrong with the world. If you say we are going to hell every single one of you idiots is going with us! Not all of us are bad people I am a member of society and help out those in more need than me even though I am broke and barely feed my family. So seriously FOOK OOF and learn tolerance. Remember we are Americans and have freedom of religion and many different beliefs and cultures here

I see it's okay when you pass judgment, though. Thanks for clearing that up.

[proteastantguy]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

TL;DR

I don't see any hypocrites among these nice christian people, the only thing they are trying to do is spreading the love of God and following The Holy Bible. If you want to call people hypocrites, this isn't the right place for you to come.

Sincerly.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

To the person that said Juggalos shouldn't get married NONE OF YOU SHOULD BE RAISING KIDS... I am broke and barely feed my family.

Right. We shouldn't raise kids, we should leave that kind of task to hateful children like you who get knocked up by drunken clowns and then leave your babies to starve. That's the right way to do it, is it?

[Juggalo Diplomat]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

To the baptists on this forum:
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We Juggalos are not responsible for the actions of the few of us that made bad decisions, just as you all are not responsible for the crusades or your southern brothers and sisters joining the KKK. Just remember that one day a Juggalo might save your life. I know it is your constitutional right to have this forum, but I do find it a little offensive to have my beliefs be called false. At one point your religion was young too and the Romans had your followers ridiculed, ostracized, and killed. Just don't cast the first stone is all I'm trying to say...

To the Juggalos who find this forum:
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Please don't embarrass our people on this forum. We don't need to fight. If you don't have something constructive to say just leave please...
M - -

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

To the baptists on this forum:
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We Juggalos are not responsible for the actions of the few of us that made bad decisions, just as you all are not responsible for the crusades or your southern brothers and sisters joining the KKK. Just remember that one day a Juggalo might save your life. I know it is your constitutional right to have this forum, but I do find it a little offensive to have my beliefs be called false. At one point your religion was young too and the Romans had your followers ridiculed, ostracized, and killed. Just don't cast the first stone is all I'm trying to say...

It will be a cold day in hell before these two dopes are worthy of worship.



How is the search for how magnets work coming along?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

To the baptists on this forum:
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We Juggalos are not responsible for the actions of the few of us that made bad decisions, just as you all are not responsible for the crusades or your southern brothers and sisters joining the KKK.

Um, the Crusades were Catholics, not Baptists.

Just remember that one day a Juggalo might save your life.

Or chase me down the street with a hatchet. Or dunk his nuts in my soup, gloop?

I know it is your constitutional right to have this forum, but I do find it a little offensive to have my beliefs be called false.

Why? They are.

But we do find it interesting that the Insane Clown Pansies have managed to bring some people to Jesus, and even claim that is their intent.

As this secular source points out:

The Insane Clown Posse, long known for lyrics encouraging rape and murder, and whose violent, hedonistic fans are known for carrying out the lyrics’ suggestions (most recently pelting Tila Tequila with their own feces like so many monkeys at the zoo), have all along been trying to lead people to Christ.


Hard to believe? But why? With lyrics like this:

I’m hating sluts
Shoot them in the face, step back and itch my nuts
Unless I’m in the sack
Cos I fuck so hard it’ll break their back.

...

How long have Shaggy and Violent J been tools of the Religious Right? Twenty years, they claim. How effective has their message been?

Check out scientific literacy in the United States to comprehend the bleak future they promote. Google “juggalo violence” and “juggalo crime” to see the fruits of their labors.

There may be hope for you yet, if you can take the step from the "Carnival" to Christ.

[Juggalo Diplomat]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

I know that Catholics were responsible for there crusades and not Baptists...that was actually the point I was trying to make. They are still both forms of Christianity. Just as there are both peaceful and insane Juggalos, the same can be said for Christians and every other religion. The idea of the carnival is to just have fun, accept everyone from all walks of life, and to take care of your family. It just appeals to me more, because I like Halloween more than Christmas. I like face paint, fake blood, masks, cheezy horror flicks, collecting knives, and I like night better than day, but that doesn't make me a bad person in fact, I am an Infantry Soldier in the United States Army. As for some of their lyrics that you find disagreeable they are just meant to be funny and shocking. In the song "What is a Juggalo" the verse is all jokes (duh they are clowns) meant to make a point that anyone can join the Juggalos even a crazy guy who sticks nuts in soup, and in the chorus is the only "requirement" for being a Juggalo which is just being "down with the clown". Listen carefully...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Wrong again, clowny. Mary-worshiping Catholics are NOT Christians. Read THIS!

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

"What is a Juggalo" the verse is all jokes (duh they are clowns) meant to make a point that anyone can join the Juggalos even a crazy guy who sticks nuts in soup,

I don't buy that judging by ICP's other lyrics. You know the ones about things like killing southern white people, fornication, and all the foul language.

Plus, that was before they got all mystical and cultish. You yourself admitted it is your religion.

Are they just a joke act that dresses like and acts like clowns or are they the leaders of a cult/gang?

and in the chorus is the only "requirement" for being a Juggalo which is just being "down with the clown". Listen carefully...

They said the carnival stands for their twisted version of God. I assume that is what you worship?

[Juggalo Diplomat]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

It just depends on how you look at it, but anyway I just prefer my paint and hatchet man, to your cross and weeping martyr. I don't hate you guys. Just thought I could make peace... No wonder there are so many of you when it says if you dont believe you go to hell. Maybe if your religion wasn't so rigid I would have looked into it. Anyhow live long and prosper. This will be my last post. This is Juggalo Diplomat signing off. Take it easy guys.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

It just depends on how you look at it, but anyway I just prefer my paint and hatchet man, to your cross and weeping martyr. I don't hate you guys. Just thought I could make peace... No wonder there are so many of you when it says if you dont believe you go to hell. Maybe if your religion wasn't so rigid I would have looked into it. Anyhow live long and prosper. This will be my last post. This is Juggalo Diplomat signing off. Take it easy guys.

Let us know if you ever decide you want to go to Heaven instead of Shangri-Hell! <-- your future with the Cornival

[Juggalinux]

Re: Juggalo - Another False Religion

Please forgive me if this is too long, But I had to make a few notes. Please keep in mind I respect each and every one of your opinions, However there is my reply to what some have said.

You are saying that words don't matter, but please take note:

(Matthew 12:36) "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."

(Psalms 19:14) "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer."

(Proverbs 29:20) "Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him."

Words matter, friend. That is why God chose American as the language for His Word to be spread throughout the world.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

My friend I have to disagree with you, God did not choosen American as the Language because American is not a Language, in America we primary speak English. However I guess in a sense you are half right as I believe it is now called American English.

God does not accept juggalos.

That is a rather brash assumption would you not say? I do not believe any mortal can really say who God will and will not accept. For we have no way to understand him or his methods. We can only assume and hold faith that we follow this path correctly

Since when do Christians have a bad name? Christianity is a religion of peace and tolerance, and is practiced by people in every country in the world. At least some people recognize the importance of belonging to the one true faith.

I beg to differ. I am not seeing much tolerance from those Baptist and True Christians on this forum. I am seeing more idealism and intolerance.

It will be a cold day in hell before these two dopes are worthy of worship.


How is the search for how magnets work coming along?

I agree they should not be "Worshiped', as to your second comment, I do not understand why you would even make such a comment Pastor Sampson. This is not a attack on you, but I feel your comment was a but immature if not childish altogether.

Now I can certainly get the understanding of how you all feel, i checked out the Juggalo religion site. I will be the first to tell you, that is not how MOST of us self proclaimed juggalos feel. Now of course I have not read all posts and/or replies as frankly I think the entire discussion is becoming childish and useless. Juggalos it is obvious you are not going to change anyone's mind here. Just as Forum Patrons there is nothing you can really say which will make way with any Juggalo. It seems our views may be too much of polar opposites.

I will not say I agree with what many of you have said, I will say that I feel many of the forum Patrons, oddly enough the actual spiritual and religious figures (Rev. and Pastors) have seem to be the more immature of the posters, save for a handful of Juggalos who have replied.

BUT this is ok, it is not out place to judge you, or try and convince you we are good people. Each individuals actions shall sew their own place, weather that is going to the promised land, or weather that is eternal damnation. I will say I have much hope that some of you will be more accepting of your brother and sister human beings regardless of their religion or music they listen to. As I feel this was the real message behind Christ, If the Bible is correct then we are ALL gifted with the divine spark of the creator made in his spiritual image.

Feel free to attempt to respond, if you do, please attempt to be mature about it. As I trust each and every one of you has the ability to hold a discussion with someone on the opposing site of a topic and discuss it with a open mind. I ask none of you to compromise your position on the subject. But rather only extend a bit of courtesy and respect when addressing me as I have attempted to do here.

Best of wishes.