[Alphonse Alban]

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So are you saying that despite enjoying a fruitful and happy life with God, I need to change?

Yeeeaaaahhhh, I think I might pass.

If you are not a Christian, you will go to hell with joos, injuns, muslims, dotheads, swedish and other heathens. That is why I pray for you. If you open up your heart and truly accept Jesus as your personal Saviour and start following the bible, you will get to heaven with other humans. So great is the love of Jesus.

[Charles_Darwin Puppet]

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Sorry, that's meant to say without God. ^

[Alphonse Alban]

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Sorry, that's meant to say without God. ^

Good to see that this Godly webpage already has an effect on you. You felt the power of Jesus, that is why you wrote "with God".

Shout GLORY!

[Charles_Darwin Puppet]

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But I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, so telling me I'm going to go to Hell isn't going to convert me. You're basically saying that Christianity is scaremongering people into joining them. I'm not going to join a religion that works only on hypotheticals, which is not just limited to Christianity.

Hence, I am a man of science. Science has proof, science is not "let's wait and hope we were right"

[Alphonse Alban]

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But I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, so telling me I'm going to go to Hell isn't going to convert me.

It does not matter if you believe in heaven or hell. Those are still only 2 options after you die.

Science has proof, science is not "let's wait and hope we were right"

Quick, gimme proof of dark matter.

[Charles_Darwin Puppet]

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Light is distorted by things that we can't see. This is either black holes, or dark matter. Seeing as we can prove the existance of black holes in a location, if it isn't that, it must be dark matter.

Prove God?

[VictoryOS]

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But I personally don't believe in Heaven or Hell, so telling me I'm going to go to Hell isn't going to convert me. You're basically saying that Christianity is scaremongering people into joining them. I'm not going to join a religion that works only on hypotheticals, which is not just limited to Christianity.

Hence, I am a man of science. Science has proof, science is not "let's wait and hope we were right"

Son, would you rather find the Truth now and save yourself the Eternal Torment of Damnation? Or would you rather find the Truth with Hell's Fires licking around your writhing body as you feel the heat rising up with Satan's laughter ringing in your ears?

We are reaching out to you to help you find Salvation. Let yourself be washed is His Blood so you can shine in His Glory! The rewards are within your reach, Brother. Are you going to grab them?

[Alphonse Alban]

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Light is distorted by things that we can't see. This is either black holes, or dark matter. Seeing as we can prove the existance of black holes in a location, if it isn't that, it must be dark matter.

That is your theory about the matter, a speculation. A speculation you place your faith on. I asked for proof, because you said that Science has proof, science is not "let's wait and hope we were right". So come on, gimme the proof and collect your Nobel. Or just admit that it is a matter of something you believe in.

If your proof for that is so flimsy, then proving God is very simple in your simpleton terms. We exist, God created us, so God exists.

Yes, I like proving things scientifically.

[Charles_Darwin Puppet]

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I'm a law-abiding citizen. I don't do drugs, I'm not violent, I love my family and friends...
If I am a good person without needing going to Heaven as an encouragement, is that not the same as someone who does all though things because God says they should? I prefer to think for myself.

[Alphonse Alban]

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I'm a law-abiding citizen. I don't do drugs, I'm not violent, I love my family and friends...
If I am a good person without needing going to Heaven as an encouragement, is that not the same as someone who does all though things because God says they should? I prefer to think for myself.

If you are not a Christian, you will go to hell.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[Charles_Darwin Puppet]

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That's not scientific. That's you saying God exists. So I can do that same with Dark Matter, or The Big Bang Theory.

I'm not here telling you that Christianity is wrong, it's just not what I believe in. Equally, you believe in God and not science. We're in the same boat.

My point in the first place is that Christians should not have the right to say that everyone else in the world is wrong. Everyone should be free to believe what they want, yes?

[VictoryOS]

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I'm a law-abiding citizen. I don't do drugs, I'm not violent, I love my family and friends...
If I am a good person without needing going to Heaven as an encouragement, is that not the same as someone who does all though things because God says they should? I prefer to think for myself.

Nobody ever thought their way into Heaven. You get to Heaven by following the Word of God, not by following philosophy professors.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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That's not scientific. That's you saying God exists. So I can do that same with Dark Matter, or The Big Bang Theory.

I'm not here telling you that Christianity is wrong, it's just not what I believe in. Equally, you believe in God and not science. We're in the same boat.

My point in the first place is that Christians should not have the right to say that everyone else in the world is wrong. Everyone should be free to believe what they want, yes?

So why are you on a Christian church's discussion forum? You came here, we didn't come to you.

[Alphonse Alban]

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The Big Bang Theory.

Yes, another theory science believe in. Again. you claimed that science has proof for all. You, not me. That was a mistake, because so much in science is purely placed in faith. You know this too. Sounds awfully lot like religion, don't you think.

Anywhoo, your poor knowledge about science is quite adoring, but what this has to do with trees and goths?

So get on topic already. If you want to learn more about real science, all you want to know and more can be found here.

[Charles_Darwin Puppet]

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EXACTLY! You haven't listened to a word I've said! I didn't come here saying I was a professor or anything, I said I BELIEVE in the Big Bang and evolution, not God. There is more evidence of the Big Bang than God...

Goths Up Trees is a purely satirical website, I find it quite funny that people have seen past that!

Farewell, sir. It's been fun talking to you.