[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Well i would respect Hitler if he had respected other beings, but he didn't, in a sense you are as bad as him, judging people for choosing something different than you, funny you take him as an example since i saw you denying Jesus being a jew in another forum thread, what's so bad about Jesus being a jew, he was you know. Anyways i have no respect for any religion who does not respect other beings either, that's what I'm trying to get through here, you show no respect for people who just want to be themselves, they just have a different belief than you and don't harm anyone, but you have to have a witchhunt. I don't understand this?
And why don't you respond to my questions? I'm interested i want to hear, please explain! I want this to be a friendly discussion.

/bunion

Pal, you need to take a look at THIS thread.

We follow the Holy Word of God literally, word for word, as He commands. If you don't like that, take it up with God.

[Bummer]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Pal, you need to take a look at THIS thread.

We follow the Holy Word of God literally, word for word, as He commands. If you don't like that, take it up with God.

Alright! Thank you! But then you never get to discuss these things, it's important to get a new view of things now and then, hear other peoples thoughts. But i see there is really no room for discussion here, you rather not listen. On the other hand everyone else are happy to hear what you have to say.

Well i can't take it up with god... since i don't believe in a god. But i will think about it myself, and make my own judgment, since I'm capable of that all by myself.

And yeah this is getting old... but today the world is different.... old rules don't apply in the same way. Blabla....

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Alright! Thank you! But then you never get to discuss these things, it's important to get a new view of things now and then, hear other peoples thoughts. But i see there is really no room for discussion here, you rather not listen. On the other hand everyone else are happy to hear what you have to say.

Well i can't take it up with god... since i don't believe in a god. But i will think about it myself, and make my own judgment, since I'm capable of that all by myself.

And yeah this is getting old... but today the world is different.... old rules don't apply in the same way. Blabla....

He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Proverbs 28:26

God's laws are for all mankind, and all times.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Apparently you've also declared war on the English language.

I can't speak for Pastor Zeke, but when a True Christian™ kills a witch or an urban rape victim who didn't scream or a sacrificial animal, he is doing it because God instructed him to do it. The True Christian™ is not the killer, God is the killer. He is just the instrument by which the Lord achieves His kill.

It's my understanding, Brother Ahimaaz, that the sinner actually kills himself. The True Christian™ performing the execution is merely the method of choice.

After all, the Bible clearly states the offenses punishable by stoning. If a person chooses to commit these offenses, knowing the punishment, isn't that suicide?

Yeah but that's your own personal law, who knows what god wants, you can't interpret a such old book into today's world. We are not still in the 16th century when people burned witches, you need to think for yourself what is right and wrong, and killing another being is always wrong, death penalty is also wrong.

No, our own "personal" beliefs do not enter into it.

For example, I told a story not long ago about a man in my congregation named Dan. He was the leader of my Men's Prayer Group. He was friendly, impeccably groomed, and had an excellent sense of color. He even took the group on backwoods hiking/camping adventures, and hosted hot tub parties.

One day, Dan came to me and informed me that he was not as True a Christian as he'd pretended to be. He was, in fact, divorcing his wife so he could marry another woman!

Well, I contained my anger, and did not immediately execute him myself. After all, secular law demands that we allow the "authorities" to do such things.

That Sunday, I gave a sermon on the evils of adultery and divorce, and God's dictated punishment for such acts -- stoning. I pointed out how lucky Dan (right there in the fourth row) was that we could not drag him into the street and stone him right then for his betrayal of the Lord. My, how nervous he appeared when all the congregation stared at him!

He was so scared that he left town the very next day, leaving no forwarding address.

For some unknown reason, he seems to have stolen the pallet of bricks the Men's Group was going to use to lay a new patio outside the church, but didn't bother with any of his clothes or his car.

Odd, no?

I can assure you the goths/witches(do we still have witches today?) is not the core of the problem here.

Of course we have witches. Have you never heard of Wicca?

Do you live under a rock of some sort?

Goths and witches are NOT the core of the problem, I agree. The problem is failure to submit every aspect of our lives, and every decision, every moment, to God's Will. Goths and witches are merely one symptom; so is homosexuality, divorce, the wearing of blended fabrics, planting different crops together (or "polyculture"), and any other number of depraved sins.

Yes but that a very long time ago, the world was a different place then, you need to go with the times, you can't stick to the kind of logic they had back then, it was a brutal and harsh life they led, kill or get killed, today we don't need this anymore, we've hopefully grown as humans (well not really did we?). Everyone needs to adapt, even religion.

Son, if God, the ALMIGHTY CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, wanted His Word to say something different than what it says, do you not think He could CHANGE IT?

He HASN'T, therefore, He does not WANT it changed.

And how can you be sure you can interpret the bible correctly? How can anyone be sure they interpret it correctly?

By not interpreting. It's not written to be interpreted; it's written to be OBEYED.

It would make no difference if i read the bible from the beginning to the end, the question is still the same. You just avoid it. In the end what you do always comes back to you, you kill someone it will get you punished somehow, there is no way of justifying it, you should treat all beings with respect.

No, we should obey God's Laws. Every one of them.

Alright! Thank you! But then you never get to discuss these things, it's important to get a new view of things now and then, hear other peoples thoughts.

You mean the same "new"thoughts spewed forth by every God-mocking Hellbound Unsaved Trash like you that pops up here EVERY DAY?

Well i can't take it up with god... since i don't believe in a god. But i will think about it myself, and make my own judgment, since I'm capable of that all by myself.

Then why are you on a Christian Church's forum, insulting and blaspheming the name of the Most High? For LULZ?

And yeah this is getting old... but today the world is different.... old rules don't apply in the same way. Blabla....

It sure is getting old. We hear the same blasphemy from Hellbound atheist losers every day. "Blabla", indeed.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Yeah but that's your own personal law

There is no such thing as a "personal law". There is secular law and God's Law. The two should be one, but until they are, we are commanded to obey secular law.

who knows what God wants

Anyone who reads God's Word does. Are you a retarded or something? It's right there, clear as day in the KJV1611.

you can't interpret a such old book into today's world.

That's where the problem lays, in people "interpreting" God's Word. There is no interpretation needed! It's word-for-word the absolute Truth. If your heart wasn't hardened against God, you would realize this.

We are not still in the 16th century when people burned witches, you need to think for yourself what is right and wrong

Why, when God has told us Himself what is right and wrong? I don't know about you, but I'd rather not spend eternity in unrelenting anguish as the fires of Hell burn but never consume.

and killing another being is always wrong

So if some drug addict had a gun to your mother's head, you wouldn't shoot him because killing is always wrong?

death penalty is also wrong.

Of course you would be a bleeding-heart, namby-pamby LIEberal nitwit who cares more about murderers than their victims and would rather see them out on the street ready to kill again.

Christians are always the ones accusing other people, killing and starting wars, christians or other violent religions.

Really? Explain then please all the atheist mass murderers of the 20th century - Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.

Would you not prefer a safe world?

Obviously we do, and there's good news! That days is coming! We are in End Times, friend, and if you accept Jesus into your heart now, you will join all other True Christians™ in reigning by His side on Earth for a thousand years! GLORY!

I can assure you the goths/witches(do we still have witches today?) is not the core of the problem here. You need to learn to accept other people, let people believe in what they want.

What a hateful thing to say! Why do you want people to burn in Hell? That's not just hateful, that's evil. And we would be just as evil if we just "let people believe in what they want". We love them and care about the fate of their souls!
If you see a baby rolling in a carriage down a steep hill toward traffic, do you just say to yourself, "The baby wants to roll down this hill so who am I to stop him?" Well, you might. But a decent person would try to stop that baby! Wouldn't you rather be a decent person than such a hateful, evil, "tolerant" tool of Satan?

And yeah this is getting old... but today the world is different.... old rules don't apply in the same way.

I'd like to think that you really didn't feel that way, that murder and theft are still wrong, but sadly I'd be mistaken. You really do feel this way, don't you?

Obviously you don't care about the commandments about not worshipping other gods or bowing down to graven images, working on the Sabbath or honoring your parents. Let's take a look at some others then.

Thou shalt not kill. With you being an unrepentant LIEberal, I'm sure you have no problem with the baby holocaust where millions of unborn children are slaughtered every year in the abortion mills.

Neither shalt thou commit adultery. If it feels good, do it, huh? Never mind all the diseases spread around and families broken up.

Neither shalt thou steal. Yet I suppose you have no problem with the government picking the pockets of hard-working people at the end of a gun!

Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour. Do you lie (other than your insistence that God's Word is not His Word)? Do you believe there are "justifiable" lies?

I guess you really do believe that the "old rules" no longer apply, and that's just sad. No wonder society is in the pickle it's in today.

[_John_]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Them boys did a good thing killing that freak

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Thank you for that insightful, well-thought-out post, _John_. You add so much to our discussion Why don't you swing by the Introduction Forum and introduce yourself, and tell us something of yourself--why you're here, what you want from us, which tithing plan you want, etc...

[Godless Chink]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

your all fucked for thinking its right

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

your all piffleed for thinking its right

Why do you hate spelling and grammar?

[killersmell]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

You can talk real big now sitting behind your computer monitor, but I am sure Satan is going to know what scares you!

what i ment kind sir was: there are things far worse then this world can throw at us, why be afraid of things here, when we have things to fear afterdeath

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Them boys did a good thing killing that freak

John, those boys did carry out God's Will in executing that witch. However, it is not an occasion for joy or celebration; rather, we are sad that this young lady gave her mind, body, and soul to Satan instead of turning to Jesus. Her own actions caused her death; the boys simply carried out God's sentence.

Won't you give yourself over to the eternal service of our Lord, Jesus Christ? Surely you don't want to end up in the Lake of Fire with Miss Sophie Lancaster, do you?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

what i ment kind sir was: there are things far worse then this world can throw at us, why be afraid of things here, when we have things to fear afterdeath

Friend, there is nothing to fear after death if you drop to your knees right now and accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior! All you have to do is recognize what a vile sinner you are, and ask Him to come into your heart and was you clean of sin! Then read the Bible (KJV1611) every day and study it, and join a decent Bible-believing Baptist church in your area and tithe religiously! PRAISE!

[killersmell]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

Friend, there is nothing to fear after death if you drop to your knees right now and accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior! All you have to do is recognize what a vile sinner you are, and ask Him to come into your heart and was you clean of sin! Then read the Bible (KJV1611) every day and study it, and join a decent Bible-believing Baptist church in your area and tithe religiously! PRAISE!

that's why i said few things scar me

[Dragula]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

What is this garbage?
1. I love Jesus THE christ deeply.
2. I also love gothic art and music deeply.
3. True gothic people are for the most part very friendly and kind to almost everyone.
4. Gothica is not about death but about life, love, and friendship.
5. I have had some gothic friends.
6. Gothica originated in european churches.
7. (satanic references deleted)

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Teenager 'murdered young woman for dressing as a Goth'

What is this garbage?
1. I love Jesus THE christ deeply.
2. I also love gothic art and music deeply.

One or the other, friend. You have to choose a side, God or Satan.

3. True gothic people are for the most part very friendly and kind to almost everyone.

And that's how the Prince of Lies ropes the poor suckers in.

4. Gothica is not about death but about life, love, and friendship.

Then why do they all make themselves up as corpses, sleep in coffins, and mock Christianity?

5. I have had some gothic friends.

And obviously they've clouded your vision. You need some Christian friends, friend.

6. Gothica originated in european churches.

That doesn't surprise me at all. Europe is full of God-hating homers. Most of the decent Europeans fled and came to the United States of America.