Unity - The Fast Track To Hell

[JennyD]

Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell

Speaking of which, what do you think of Colossians 3:12-14 (see my sig, below)? I know the Unity crowd takes it to heart, as do I.

...as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. Colossians 3:12-14 (emphasis mine)

Well, BarrKingMad, in these verses, Christians are being told to relate this way to each other; that is, other True Christians(tm), not with Unsaved Trash, Unity-ans, Unitarians, Planetariums, or anything else.

It's more clear from God's Word, the KJV, instead of that filthy NIV you use.

12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God,* holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another,** if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

* - the elect of God. True Christians(tm).
**- Forbearing/forgiving ONE ANOTHER. Other elect of God. Other True Christians(tm).

[Ahimaaz Smith]

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Brother A, might I have a "sound bite?"

Sister SUV, you can have any kind of bite you want.

Seriously, sure, there are lots of Unity sounbites. They take a while to load, and are guaranteed to cure insomnia without medication.

But it's more fun to read thru their prosperity manual: Because we believe fundraising is a spiritual practice, ministry leaders and congregations have the opportunity and responsibility to learn about it and practice it. Here's the best one of all, from the aptly named "Patsys' Article": Money is nothing but Divine Energy in a convenient form. Can you imagine anyone being that crass about tithing at Landover? For us, it is a natural part of our love for God that we tithe, but we know darned well that it's Caesar's face on the coin, not God's.

And I haven't even gotten to how Unity is a cult of personality that never found a new personality when the old one died. Their stuff is laced with more quotes from the con man Charles Fillmore than a North Korean government press release is with paeans to their "Dear Leader." Too bad for them that Charles Fillmore forgot to visualize himself living forever.

The icing on this cake is their manual for Kwanzaa services [For those who don't know, Kwanzaa is a Christmastime holiday that celebrates the seven African-American virtues: greed, sloth, addiction, violence, theft, basketball, and homelessness.] Don't they know that this was a holidy made up by black nationalist Ron Karenga, who justified the invention by saying that "Jesus was psychotic" and that black folk should shun the "white" Christian religion? And yet Unity still claims to be Christian. How sad.

[SUV]

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Brother A, might I have a "sound bite?"

[Bobby-Joe]

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I don't claim to be better, just more compassionate and open to others who have different views. I'm not a meditator (though many of my parishioners are), but I can assure you I spend most of my life contemplating God.

Friend,

How are we not compassionate to the saved scum of the world? We help them over come their disgusting, vile, repulsive sinful natures and reach salvation. All you are doing with your “understanding” is enabling them in their self destruction.

[StarrKingGrad]

Re: Unity - The Fast Track To Hell

Why is it that every day we get these uneducated here trying to tell us that their better than this and that and continuously attack our Brothers and Sisters. Not to mention Gods favourite forum. Listen up starkingleningrad if you don't like to be amongst the saved go and meditate about where you will be when God smites you.

I don't claim to be better, just more compassionate and open to others who have different views. I'm not a meditator (though many of my parishioners are), but I can assure you I spend most of my life contemplating God.

[ForGodsSake]

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Somehow I missed all of the compassion. As for Smith, he's the most wordy, obnoxious, and self-congratulatory of all of your lot, but his views seem to fall pretty much in line with those of other "True Christians," and I don't mean that as a compliment. Now's your chance, Nobar, to distance yourself from that blowhard, lest you be found guilty by association.

I've been in hot water here before, and I seem to have survived just fine. You need enemies like me, otherwise you're doomed to making fun of philosophy sophomores and Doom III addicts. At least I can quote some scripture. Speaking of which, what do you think of Colossians 3:12-14 (see my sig, below)? I know the Unity crowd takes it to heart, as do I.

Why is it that every day we get these uneducated here trying to tell us that their better than this and that and continuously attack our Brothers and Sisters. Not to mention Gods favourite forum. Listen up starkingleningrad if you don't like to be amongst the saved go and meditate about where you will be when God smites you.

[Nobar King]

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That quote is fine, but it doesn't instruct us to accept false religions.

[StarrKingGrad]

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That's a pretty bold claim, Kingster. You've been here for a while, so you have obviously seen that True Christians are full of compassion, and have scruples that cannot be denied. Also, I'm pretty sure you were referring to brother Smith, the author of the that enlightening post, and not all True Christians. Making gross generalizations like that is likely to get you into hot water around here.

Somehow I missed all of the compassion. As for Smith, he's the most wordy, obnoxious, and self-congratulatory of all of your lot, but his views seem to fall pretty much in line with those of other "True Christians," and I don't mean that as a compliment. Now's your chance, Nobar, to distance yourself from that blowhard, lest you be found guilty by association.

I've been in hot water here before, and I seem to have survived just fine. You need enemies like me, otherwise you're doomed to making fun of philosophy sophomores and Doom III addicts. At least I can quote some scripture. Speaking of which, what do you think of Colossians 3:12-14 (see my sig, below)? I know the Unity crowd takes it to heart, as do I.

[Nobar King]

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Have you "True Christians" no scruples or compassion?

That's a pretty bold claim, Kingster. You've been here for a while, so you have obviously seen that True Christians are full of compassion, and have scruples that cannot be denied. Also, I'm pretty sure you were referring to brother Smith, the author of the that enlightening post, and not all True Christians. Making gross generalizations like that is likely to get you into hot water around here.

[StarrKingGrad]

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Have you "True Christians" no scruples or compassion?

Unity stands for hope, inclusion, goodness, kindness, all the things that Landover should support, but seems to have left by the wayside. And accusing Unity of being a "pick and choose" religion is the height of hypocracy. Use the search feature and you'll see that Landover forum threads mentioning Hell well outnumber those mentioning Heaven, yet the Bible talks a lot more about salvation than it does about damnation. And don't get me started on the topic of money--I've never seen a Paypal button on any Unity forums.

It is true that Unity is not the same as Unitarian-Universalism, and stating that simple fact isn't in any sense a putdown of either. My congregation often shares worship services and other functions with our Unity sisters and brothers, and each ministry welcomes members of the other with open arms. They are about the last group I would expect to find insulting anyone--they don't have insult in their genes.

Sure, I think a lot of Unity's views are kind of flighty, but who am I to tell them what they should believe or how they should handle their spiritual journeys? In UU, we believe that we can learn from everyone, and that each of us has to find our own spiritual path. The best thing about UU is that we find our own spiritual paths together, and that is, I think, the best part of Unity, too. Like UU, Unity works for its members, assists the downtrodden, and does nothing whatsoever to discomfort others. What more do they need to justify their beliefs than that?

Smith, you seem to think you're an expert on everything from cosmology to evolution to ancient languages (like I really believe you speak Aramaic) to comparative religions to the philosophy of science to Supreme Court decisions to what brand of toilet seat is the most comfortable. Well, frankly, I think I know just as much as you do, though I'm not as egotistical about it, and this time I'm calling your bluff. If you're going to criticize Unity, then why don't you take the time to actually learn about them, go to their services, speak with them about what they believe, and try some of their meditation and positive thinking. You'll find that they aren't sorcerers, they don't worship the Devil, and their belief system is not any farther from human experience (and is much closer to human compassion) than is Landover's.

[Nobar King]

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You really took that one home, brother Smith. I wonder how many 'worshippers' are in this Unit?

[Ahimaaz Smith]

I think I've found the absolute worst religion ever. It's called Unity. Unity followers (who are very quick to say that they are not Unitarians, since they are quite willing to slam everyone else's religion even while defending their own imbecilic views vociferously) claim to be Christians, but what they really believe is a mixture of Satanic witchcraft and new age mumbo jumbo. We need to organize to stop these anti-Christian sorcerors and con men (well, con women mostly, since men have a little more spiritual discernment and are less likely to fall for the Unity/Satanic trap) before we lose another generation of their children to the fires of Hell!

I'll get to the anti-Christian sorcers part below, but, if you don't think they're con men, then check out their page for ministers on how to ramp up contributions by teaching prosperity doctrine here; or their FAQ for ministers, where they rank Beliefs first, but Church Accounting and Minister's Finances come before their Youth and Peacemaking. Or the handy Unity Direct Debit Authorization form. They're as shameless as Scientologists when it comes to fleecing the flock.

The really insidious thing about Unity isn't that they are selling BS to their members, but rather that, like the Catholics, they claim that what they believe is all based in the Bible. When pressed, anything they don't like in the Bible they say is allegory, or metaphor, or changed from the original text by evil Christians. Of course, everything they do like is the true word of Jesus Christ. If Deepak Chopra married the Pope, their kids would be Unity freaks.

That's it, no muss, no fuss, they just rewrite the Bible to suit whatever their belief du jour happens to be! I kid you not. Consider these statements, drawn straight from the Unity website, which show that they are in no way Christians or followers of Christs teachings:

Unity: Unity honors the universal truths in all religions and respects each individual’s right to choose a spiritual path.

God: I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:2-3

Unity: We see Jesus as a master teacher of universal truths and as our Way-Shower. In Unity, we use the term "Christ" to mean the divinity in humankind. Jesus is the great example of the Christ in expression.


God: God was made manifest in the flesh. 1 Timothy 3:16 (speaking of Jesus)

Unity: We are each individual, eternal expressions of God. Our essential nature is divine and therefore inherently good.

God: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

Unity: Unity recognizes that the Bible is a complex collection of writings compiled over many centuries. We honor the writings as reflecting the understanding and inspiration of the writers at the time they were written.

God: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

Unity: When we take personal responsibility to choose life affirming thoughts, words and actions, we experience a more fulfilling and abundant life.

God: I am come to send fire on the earth Luke 12:49.

Unity: In Unity, we feel a sacred responsibility.... to make a positive difference through personal example and active service in our churches, our communities and our world.... It is imperative that our ministries and outreaches be free of discrimination on the basis of race, color, gender, age, creed, religion, national origin, ethnicity, physical disability, or sexual orientation.

God: Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord. 2 Corinthians 6:14-17

Unity: In our effort to reach out to all people as did our Way-Shower, Jesus Christ, we support the modification of our facilities to make them accessible to all people, regardless of physical challenges....

God: Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.... a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken....

Unity: Unity honors the many names for God, the many paths to God, the many ways to worship God....

God: If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him..... Deuteronomy 13:6-10

But here's the worst Unity doctrine of all--they believe that they can make things happen through thought alone! There's a word for that my friends, and that word is sorcery.

Unity: Unity emphasizes the creative power of thought in our life experience. We refer to this as the Law of Mind Action. When we take personal responsibility to choose life affirming thoughts, words and actions, we experience a more fulfilling and abundant life.


God: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

Remember when dealing with Unity's minions, their witchcrafts are dangerous, but we, as Christians filled with the Spirit of God, have nothing to fear from them:

....Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God. But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him. And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. Acts 13:7-11

Hey, it would be great if the world were all happieness and joy and positive thoughts, and if we could get everything we want just by wishing it were so, but the simple fact is that life is complicated, Satan's temptations abound, and truth isn't just a matter of what we want, it is a matter of what actually is, as created by God. And God's plan isn't like a menu at a Chinese restaurant, we don't get to pick one item from column A and one from column B, you accept it all like a thinking, rational adult. We need to trust in Him to chose the best path for us, and fight the vile lies of the witches and hucksters who preach Unity.