Atheism and logic

Shimei · 11-30-2012, 11:14 PM

Re: Atheism and logic

Originally posted by MisterM View Post

As most of True Christians have noticed, atheists always talk about logic and claim that if you think logically, you can prove that the God does not exists. Logic itself is Satan's way to lure innocent people away from the God, God does not want us to think, only to believe.

Anyway, when atheists talk about logic and religion, they use very special Atheist logic that break their own rules of logic. Last night I had perfect example of their illogical logic while I was trying to spread the word online at this special chat I have been participating.

This guy, let's call him Jack. Had following points: Christians prove that Jesus was real using the Bible as a proof. He said that the Bible was just a story written by men. His so-called logic went like this.

1. Bible is not a book written by God but men (wrong!!! 2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." ) and that why it cannot be taken as to truth.
2. If Jesus was a real historical person, he would be mentioned by historians of his era
3. Example Jewish Historian Josephus mentions 19 different Jesus (means savior) in his Antiquities and non of them are Jesus known by Christians. Also no Roman historians mention Jesus of the bible.

How did I answer to Jack? Well, I could have just given him the fact that the Bible says that it is written by God. But I wanted to play the game he was playing. So I said:

"Jack, you claim that the Bible is written by men and therefore it cannot be taken as truth. Yet you prove it referring to a book written by a Jew. Not only it is written by a man but Jewish man. And Jews killed Jesus. So you are actually saying that it cannot be taken as a truth and in fact it is written by a Jew who is well motivated to kill Jesus. And you talk about Roman historians. They worshiped false Gods and have good reason to hate Jesus. Would you trust a guy who killed you father? I wouldn't"

That totally crushed his logic and I just threw him out from the chat room because he could not make any sense. Oh boy, he was totally defeated.

Do you have similar experience with atheist logic? Share it in this thread.

Yours In Christ,
M

People put merit upon the facts that they themselves want to believe. For example, Caesar composed his history of the Gallic Wars between 58 and 50 BC, and its manuscript authority rests on nine or ten copies dating one thousand years after his death. Aristotle wrote his poetics around 343 BC, and yet the earliest copy we have is dated AD 1100 (a gap of almost fourteen hundred years), an only forty-nine manuscripts exist.

Josh and Sean Mcdowell, in "More than a Carpenter," writes about the internal, and external and bibliographical test, an examination of the textual transmission by which ancient documents reach us from the past.

From the book, I came away with a few methods in how to approach certain atheistic arguments when they attack the reliability of the Testaments. I've learned to ask the question, "What are the tests that you apply to any piece of historical writing to determine its accuracy and reliability?" most often the case, well, about all cases thus far have revealed only bias and unbelief as the method in which they use.