[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

MM... Yes, using the bible, you are correct, all other religions besides Christianity are demonic, and satanic, and not what they believe themselves to be. But, Using their own religion, they believe that they are correct. It's all of a matter of opinion, heaven, hell, death and reincarnate, it's what your belief is. I love everyone, or try my hardest to, no matter if their opinion differs from my own. I say love, but not romantically, obviously. I believe in a union between two, and not many people. But, My beliefs, are to be kept out of this, for this is strictly for factual evidence.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

Pretty simple I'd say. Whatever is not of Christ is of satan.

[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

This is the point I was making. The pagans believe they are worshiping many deities, and not satan. So, that again is another matter of opinion. No, I never once defended it, all of what I posted was fact- now of course, I am saying neither side is right. I merely pointed out what was false, and what was true instead. We are all entitled to our own beliefs, I have studied many religions over the years. I pointed out what was fact, without incorporating my own personal beliefs. For everything that I said, if given the appropriate amount of time, as I don't have everything at hand and memorized, I can give you sources to back up my claims, so that their are references to go with them. I am sorry if me putting the truth out there offended you, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was defending anyone.

[Marshall]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

It's just that after 9 pages of reasons NOT to worship Satan in a sex cult, you came in and defended it.

[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Then, if I did offend you, I apologize for that and hope that we can both move past it.

[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Hmm... Did I come off mean or arrogant, or in some way shape or form that would make you comeback with a comment that was such, or were you talking to someone else? I really am trying not to offend anyone here, and I answered the questions, did I not?

[Marshall]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Don't you have some cats to torture or some strangers to have sex with somewhere?

[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

(a)"Wicker is nothing more than a social club for those who want to dance around naked and sacrifice babies" - discuss. (20%)

(b)Wicker neither promises Salvation nor attempts to save others and is therefore pointless.(20%)

© the best you can hope for in Wicker is to come back as a poison ivy bush.(10%)

(d)Wicker was invented in 1954 by a money-grubbing delusional Gerald Gardner and is a complete confidence trick for the gullible middle classes - discuss.(50%)

I'm marking you out of 100 - 75% is the pass mark. Write in English, grammar and spelling are important. Do not make ridiculous claims. Unsubstantiated references to, or claims of powers by, supernatural beings will result in immediate failing.

Ok, so I will first start with A.

While it is true that some Wiccans are known for dancing around naked, it is also true that the vast majority do not. I myself haven't heard of a Wiccan dancing around naked in a long time, but it might still happen, I cannot say for certain one way or another on that topic. They do not sacrifice babies, again that would go against their code "be it in love that harms none, do what ye will". There is no love in baby killing, is there? That goes against Wicca. Now, then, I'm sure there are some that are a little insane and do harm people, but like I said prior, they have that in every religion, don't they?

Now, onto B.

Oh, I agree with you on the fact that they do not save others, or do not offer salvation, but only because you are using these words in Christian terminology. Any Wiccan would agree with that statement. They don't save others, either. They do not try to recruit others to their religion, they let the people seek their own path accepting that many people have different beliefs in what is true to them. They allow the person to choose their own beliefs. Now then, as for the salvation, they believe they do not need salvation in the church's eyes, because a wiccan or pagan does not follow the bible.

On to C!

That is also only partially correct, but has some truth in it. Most do believe in some sort of reincarnation system, but most systems are different. Some believe beings can come back as plants, or animals, and others believe that they will only come back as another human. Yes, you are indeed partially correct, and as such, I give you kudos for that. They do generally believe in some form of reincarnation, although not always that they will reincarnate forever. So, it's not just a poison ivy bush, but possibly animals, and Humans, depending on their beliefs.

Onto D!

I agree. You probably didn't expect that, did you? It was crafted by Gerald Gardner, and the year it happened is often disputed, I still agree, or mainly. I am surprised you knew that, though, but I myself should not be so quick to judge. Now, In your saying- it could not be both for money and him being delusional. If he is indeed delusional, then he believed it, and wanted to share it with the world and it wasn't for money. However, that is looking at it from your own perspective, at least the delusional part.. Now then, I myself cannot say whether he is delusional or not, I am merely here to teach, to enlighten, and to give insight and truth. Not to give my personal beliefs. Anyways, I agree it did give them confidence. Whether the spells worked or not isn't important. What is important is that the people believed they worked, giving them confidence, so in that way, yes it did indeed give them confidence.

Now then, a little bit more info. I do not wish to offend anyone within this website. I respect your right to belief, and I realize that I am the one visiting YOUR website. As such, I try my best not to offend anyone here. I wish merely to tell you the truth, without any lies and be unbiased about it. If, for whatever reason, I do offend someone, speak up and tell me, and I will not be proud. I will apologize, and move on with it, hoping that you too will move on with it, and I will try not to do it again.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Likely words, coming from a self-proclaimed witch!

*[...satanic rubbish deleted...]If you have more questions, I am more then happy to answer them. You may not believe it, but I don't mind that your opinion differs at all.

(a)"Wicker is nothing more than a social club for those who want to dance around naked and sacrifice babies" - discuss. (20%)

(b)Wicker neither promises Salvation nor attempts to save others and is therefore pointless.(20%)

(c) the best you can hope for in Wicker is to come back as a poison ivy bush.(10%)

(d)Wicker was invented in 1954 by a money-grubbing delusional Gerald Gardner and is a complete confidence trick for the gullible middle classes - discuss.(50%)

I'm marking you out of 100 - 75% is the pass mark. Write in English, grammar and spelling are important. Do not make ridiculous claims. Unsubstantiated references to, or claims of powers by, supernatural beings will result in immediate failing.

[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

*sigh* Do you really have any idea what paganism is? I have studied many religions, as such, I actually know WHAT the religion deals with, and don't make things up about it. The main principle in wicca is "as long as it harms none, do what ye will." Or "out of love that harms none, do what ye will." That doesn't sound malicious, it sounds rather loving to me. Thats just my opinion, agree or disagree. I believe that I can give you information, if you wish, that says the same thing about wicca. That little saying, one of the foundations of wicca, is known as the wiccan rede- look it up anywhere, even wikipedia has information on it. If you have more questions, I am more then happy to answer them. You may not believe it, but I don't mind that your opinion differs at all.

Oh, when I said paganism, wicca is an off branch of paganism. Pagans as well, depending on which path they are on whether it is left handed or right handed, still have morals and will not harm others though, even vampyres have a strict code of ethics in which they must follow. These "vampyres" Are not the type of vampyres that drink blood, they eat "energy". But, This is a christian website, and I'm sure you don't want me going telling you guys such things, am I right? Granted, some pagans might harm others, and use magick to get back at someone or harm them, but you have such things in every religion. There are churches out there that have members that even claim to be christian, even though these members are druggies, alcoholics, or both. Not all, but some. This is actually at a baptist church, that is in a neighboring town in which I live in, where just about every one is "godly" but really, are not. They do not practice what they preach.

[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Likely words, coming from a self-proclaimed witch!


True or false: It is possible to be saved without accepting Christ.

Here's a hint:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

sorry, let me answer your question as well, as it's not fair of me to ignore your question now, is it? I just can't go around your questions. Oh, sorry about my quote, that was totally accidental. I forgot to leave the quote in at the end, but while I'm thinking of it, I thought I should just answer your question as well. According to christianity, it is impossible to be "saved" in the terminology in which you used it in without accepting christ as your lord and savior. Other religions may differ from your own, though, and people will always have differing opinions on such topics.

[dingo minors]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

[QUOTE=Brother Temperance;201616]Likely words, coming from a self-proclaimed witch!


*sigh* Do you really have any idea what paganism is? I have studied many religions, as such, I actually know WHAT the religion deals with, and don't make things up about it. The main principle in wicca is "as long as it harms none, do what ye will." Or "out of love that harms none, do what ye will." That doesn't sound malicious, it sounds rather loving to me. Thats just my opinion, agree or disagree. I believe that I can give you information, if you wish, that says the same thing about wicca. That little saying, one of the foundations of wicca, is known as the wiccan rede- look it up anywhere, even wikipedia has information on it. If you have more questions, I am more then happy to answer them. You may not believe it, but I don't mind that your opinion differs at all.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

So if I hate it, why would I try to poison your minds with it? I have no malicious intent towards you all.

Likely words, coming from a self-proclaimed witch!

I am unsure of what Wiccans truly do. But, they, I think, try to have good intent. They may fail to see what we see, but they try to worship God in a different style. Though they might go to hell, I find it odd, for some of those people are good and should, at most, end up in a place like pergitory.

True or false: It is possible to be saved without accepting Christ.

Here's a hint:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I am unsure of what Wiccans truly do. But, they, I think, try to have good intent. They may fail to see what we see, but they try to worship God in a different style. Though they might go to hell, I find it odd, for some of those people are good and should, at most, end up in a place like pergitory.

I knew it!! You're a damned mary worshiper! READ THIS before you make another post, papist!!

[Millia]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I am unsure of what Wiccans truly do. But, they, I think, try to have good intent. They may fail to see what we see, but they try to worship God in a different style. Though they might go to hell, I find it odd, for some of those people are good and should, at most, end up in a place like pergitory.