[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Then aren't you are judging us to be intolerant and non-understanding?

Our religious faith requires us to be intolerant of other religions. If you are wanting to change that, then you must have judged our faith to be in error. How is that different from us judging your faith to be in error?

Do you also go to Muslim forums and try to help them "learn to be tolerant and understanding like the rest of this society", or do you just pick on Christians?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

I do not go to Muslim forums. I did not know there was any. People like you come on our forums all the time and try to convert us. I am not trying to convert you.

[JennyD]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Because my religion is not strict and I am allowed to speak my mind instead of letting a man control everything I do. Plus my religion is a earth/nature based religion. Everyone else in society is tolerant and understanding. No being tolerant is not abandoning your god. You cannot let any religion control your life which is what you are letting yours do, you are taking it too far and too seriously.

How can one take following the laws specifically given to Man by his Creator "too far"?

If your goal is simply praising the earth and maybe humans, then why not be a secular humanist, instead of all this magic nonsense? After all, if you think one can take obeying one's God "too far", then I must only imagine that you do not take Wicca very seriously. After all, you chose it because it was convenient, rather than because you believe it to be Truth.

[Vayhr of the Warhost]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

You mean they can do whatever they want to! That is not right.

It's OUR Christian moderators on OUR Christian forum you stupid stupid stupid sssssssssssstupid, b*tch.


And to top it off you worship a f*cking ball of fire in the sky and the dirt you tread on. PURE STUPIDITY!! I don't know why I'm even surprised you think moderators shouldn't be able to moderate!!!

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Sister Jenny, I'm afraid this young lady is interested in wicka because she wants to be "hip" and "with it", as they say on the streets. Unfortunately for her and her friends, the very things that make her "cool" here on earth will make her burning hot when she finds herself in Hell for all of Eternity.

Yeah I do not give a shit about being hip or cool. That is not why I am Wiccan, so little do you know. Oh yes I am going to hell for believing in what I want to believe in and for being who I am. Sorry in my religion there is no hell, there is something called the spirit world which is where everyone goes. To people like you it would be heaven. By the way there is a law that we abide by too if you did not know that. Here I will show you:


The Wiccan Rede
Bide the Wiccan Laws ye must
In perfect love and perfect trust.
Eight words the Wiccan Rede fufill,
An ye harm none, do what ye will.
Lest in thy self-defense it be,
Ever mind the rule of three.
Follow this in mind and heart,
And Merry Meet and Merry Part!


AND HERE IS THE ORIGIN OF IT:


The original source for at least part of the Wiccan Rede appears to be by a 16th century novelist, François Rabelais.

"DO AS THOU WILT because men that are free, of gentle birth, well bred and at home in civilized company possess a natural instinct that inclines them to virtue and saves them from vice. This instinct they name their honor." 8

This concept appears to have been adopted by Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) in his Law of Thelema which is contained in his 1904 book Liber AL vel Legis (The Book of the Law). Many believe that Crowley received the text of the Law from an angelic entity named Aiwass:

"Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit, and the Lover, and the man of Earth. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." 9

Later in the Book of the Law is a verse which states: "Invoke me under my stars! Love is the law, love under will. Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen, knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of God." 10
Excerpts from these two verses are sometimes quoted together as two commandments: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." "Love is the law, love under will."
Ellie Crystal writes: "Most Thelemites hold that every person possesses a True Will, a single overall motivation for their existence. The Law of Thelema mandates that each person follow their True Will to attain fulfillment in life and freedom from restriction of their nature. Because no two True Wills can be in real conflict ...this Law also prohibits one from interfering with the True Will of any other person." 11
Crowley initiated Gerald Gardiner into the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) in 1946. Gardner may have taken the phrase from Rabelais and Crowley: "do what thou wilt," grafted it onto a clear, unambiguous expression to do no harm, and produced the Wiccan Rede as we know it today.
An alternative explanation is that the Rede was extracted directly from the Wiccan Credo which some Wiccans believe was written circa 1910 CE by Adriana Porter.

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

It's OUR Christian moderators on OUR Christian forum you stupid stupid stupid sssssssssssstupid, b*tch.


And to top it off you worship a f*cking ball of fire in the sky and the dirt you tread on. PURE STUPIDITY!! I don't know why I'm even surprised you think moderators shouldn't be able to moderate!!!

That is not moderating when you change someones name. That is called being immature and being a**holes.

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Pastor E,

I am proving to you that it is not your satans crap. I am proving to you that we are loving people and do have laws to abide by like you do. You can post your proof , but I can post mine. I think you should get an infraction for that.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Pastor E,

I am proving to you that it is not your satans crap. I am proving to you that we are loving people and do have laws to abide by like you do. You can post your proof , but I can post mine. I think you should get an infraction for that.

The only thing you have proved so far is how hateful you are. You aren't much of a posterchild for your cult, are you.

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

How am I hateful when you people are saying it is ok to go out and kill people who are not like you? You are the ones that are spewing hate with saying die goth and die witch. They are normal people like you and you need to accept that we are all equal and no one is above anyone else.

[JennyD]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Too bad we can't have a halfway-intelligent conversation without a teenager RPG gamertard coming in and cussing at the little girl, and distracting her from any discussion geared toward helping her toward Salvation(c)!

Incidentally, dear, you DO realize that Aleister Crowley was a Satanist, right? He called himself The Beast? Ring any bells?

And that's who raised up Gerald Gardner. Still you claim Wicca has no roots in Satanism?

[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Do you really know what Thelema is?

Judging on your ignorance of Gerald Gardner I suspect you don't know much about Crowley at all.

BTW, a male dominated world view is at direct odds with a supposed matriarchal "religion" like Wicca. It always amuses me how these patriarchal concepts sneak into Wicca. Which, as I pointed out to you earlier is a modern construct and has as much to do with the "old religion" as going to medieval fair for a day and saying you had a real middle age experience.

REPENT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

How am I hateful when you people are saying it is ok to go out and kill people who are not like you? You are the ones that are spewing hate with saying die goth and die witch. They are normal people like you and you need to accept that we are all equal and no one is above anyone else.

You spew obscenities and force your evil cult on us, demanding that we abandon Jesus and accept satan as our master. That is about as hateful as you can get.

God tells us how to deal with scum like you.

Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

I'll bet you're a queer too, right? Probably think Marilyn Manson is a prophet?

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

By the way it is a religion, not a cult!! Get it right. If you are going to keep saying that it is a cult well then yours is a cult as well.

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

You spew obscenities and force your evil cult on us, demanding that we abandon Jesus and accept satan as our master. That is about as hateful as you can get.

God tells us how to deal with scum like you.

Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

I'll bet you're a queer too, right? Probably think Marilyn Manson is a prophet?

I am straight. I like Marilyn Manson as an entertainer, he is not a prophet. I am not forcing it on you I was giving proof that it is not evil and that we do not worship your so called satan. I am not telling you to abandon you Jesus.

P.S A familiar spirit is used to help guide you in life you idiot. You really are stupid and need to actually get out there and learn.

[Herr_Doktor Phd.]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

P.S A familiar spirit is used to help guide you in life you idiot. You really are stupid and need to actually get out there and learn.

A familiar spirit is clear evidence of Demonic involvement and would have got a conviction in any court in the 16th Century. Read the Malleus Maleficarum wench.

[Petal]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

A familiar spirit is used to help guide you in life

famliar spirts are evil spirts, Miss.Spit . they possess kittys, an then that kitty be called a wicker famliar, an then that kitty do unnatteral thangs

wicker an kitty dance for the devils, it true