[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

You may perceive that I was putting words in your mouth, but in fact you said my father was a "drunk injun". But by saying he was a drunk implies that alcohol is a bad thing.

No, it implies that drunkenness is a bad thing. Alcohol in moderation is OK, as long as it doesn't cause weaker brethren to stumble (figuratively ) on their walk with Jesus.

A little alcohol is OK ...
1Tim 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

... but drunkenness is not (drunks go to Hell) ...
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

...and it should be avoided if it offends a weaker brother.
Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

If someone of a certain race wants to call themselves and their people by that name I dont care. I dont like other people doing so.[...]

So basically, your "non-racist" philosophy is that some races can do one thing but other races can't - you'd have gone down well in apartheid South Africa; they believed much the same there.

I just don't know why the Pastors have been so tolerant about your hateful views.

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Why do you all think people who do not agree with all of your views are hateful, but yet your not hateful? I would check again on that if I was you pastors. We deserve respect no matter what. My religion is not false. By the way the term "injun" is racist and I find it very insulting because I also have Native in me. The correct term would be "Native American", so get it right and stop being hateful and racist you loonies.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

By the way the term "injun" is racist and I find it very insulting because I also have Native in me. The correct term would be "Native American", so get it right and stop being hateful and racist you loonies.

What about Injun Joe, the beloved character from the Tom Sawyer story? I don't see you out protesting Mark Twain.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

No because I can't go out there and protest them because I have no money and way too. "Injun" is a racist term and it is an insult to me and every Native American out there.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

No because I can't go out there and protest them because I have no money and way too. "Injun" is a racist term and it is an insult to me and every Native American out there.

Maybe I can help. Here is a link to a Mark Twain mailing list. You should sign up for that and protest Injun Joe.

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[Samuel Butler]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

<H2>Witchcraft

Witchcraft can be defined as the performance of magic forbidden by God for non-biblical ends. The word witchcraft is related to the old English word Wiccian, "practice of magical arts."

When a person became a witch, he or she entered into a pact with Satan to worship him. They deny the Creator of heaven and earth. They deny their baptism with Christ. They deny the worship formerly paid to God. They adhere to the devil and believe only in him. They are re-baptized in the devil's name.
They promise to sacrifice children to the devil, a step which led to the stories of witches murdering children. Also, they request of the devil for their names to be written in the Book of Death. They tattoo themselves with the devil's mark in various parts of their body. The mark might vary in shape - magic circle or number 666, serpent, evil eye, spider, bat, a rabbit foot, a toad etc.
Witches were supposed to have had a variety of different powers which kept the people in fear of them. Witchcraft practitioners place spells by some spoken word(s) or form of words believed to have magic power, binding by spell or charm.
In witchcraft there is white magic which is supposedly curative and black magic, also voodoo (African name it joojoo) which are destructive. However, the most feared power thought to be held by witches was that of bewitchment, the ability to cause sickness and death. Practically speaking, a gray area of magic exists between black and white magic.
Most black magic advocates believe that through the use of charms, spells, fetish bags containing potions and animal bones, spiritual powers can be manipulated for one's own advantage. Thus, people selfishly practice all types of magic to obtain a means to their own ends, seldom distinguishing between black and white versions.
Some black magicians poke pins into voodoo dolls to inflict pain or misfortune upon those who have angered them. Still others cast black magic curses on career opponents to frighten or intimidate them into resigning their positions. Black magicians inflict disease, physical danger, and unfortunate circumstances on victims.
Many people are tempted to use black magic to get even with enemies or get ahead in life. Charms and spells can eliminate an enemy or protect against someone else's black magic. Fetishes supposedly make one person love another or cause him to follow someone else's wishes. They can also be used to persuade someone toward benevolence or to change a bad fate into a good destiny. With the help of hexes, black magicians hope to advance in the world of professional rivalry.
Witchcraft practitioners are also involved in water witching, levitation (the lifting of one's body in the air with no support), dowsing to use a divining rod (a forked stick alleged to dip downward when held over an underground supply of water), table tipping, psychometry (devination through objects), healing by witch doctors (a person who practices primitive medicine involving the use of magic, as among the tribes in Africa); this kind of temporary healing never cures a sick person but only transfers the sickness from one specific area of the body to another part of the body. This is totally different from the permanent healing which comes from God. Is witchcraft an act of the Devil manipulating people's minds? Witches claim that witchcraft has nothing to do with the Devil but it is a form of goddess or demon worship; a form of nature or idol worship. Satan's followers believe their holy book is written on the earth. They study lay lines, mountain tops, rivers, trees, giving meaning to the way they lay, stand, or flow.

</H2>Here. The Bible says we should not suffer a witch to live. Since the Bible says it, I'm all for it!

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Fine I will. Thanks for the help in protesting.

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

[b]</H2>Here. The Bible says we should not suffer a witch to live. Since the Bible says it, I'm all for it!

That you can not believe everything the bible says. I practice white magic or positive magic. That means I am not evil and we do not worhip Stan or even believe in satan. You people are loonies.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

That you can not believe everything the bible says. I practice white magic or positive magic. That means I am not evil and we do not worhip Stan or even believe in satan. You people are loonies.

You are correct, we can't do everything The Bible tells us too because evil secularist like you have UNFAIRLY rigged secular law so we can't practice our religion. All we Christians are asking is we be allowed to practice our faith of persecuting you pagan scum in peace. Instead we get hounded and attack by you anti-Christian trash and label cruel names like murderers.

Well listen to me, there is a new wind blowing in America and when John McCain resigns for Mike Huckabee you pagans will pay for your evil ways.

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

You are hateful and evil. I do not mind Christians. I have cool Christian friends who know what tolerance is and are understanding. They know that Wicca is not evil. I hope Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama wins this election. No, I am not a Democrat or Republican. I am an Independent. I cannot wait until President A**hole(Bush) gets out of office. This war is stupid and is not needed. This war is draining our economy and making it hard for people to afford thing's or even live anymore.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I have cool Christian friends who know what tolerance is and are understanding. They know that Wicca is not evil.

Then they are not Christians. Ask them what Mark 16:16 says. Ask them what Exodus 22:18 says. Ask them what II Chronicles 15:13 says.

This war is draining our economy and making it hard for people to afford thing's or even live anymore.

Who cares? We haven't had a single terrorist attack on US soil since the war began. I hope it goes on forever. Read the McCain quote in my signature.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[DogSpitAsshatBitch]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I do not care what he says. THIS WAR IS WRONG!!! I am not changing my views on the war. I BET YOU THEY KNOW ALL OF THOSE SECTIONS IN THE BIBLE!!!

[VictoryOS]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I practice white magic or positive magic...
...You people are loonies.

You certainly seem like a positive person.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I BET YOU THEY KNOW ALL OF THOSE SECTIONS IN THE BIBLE!!!

If they know those verses and continue to tolerate your sinful lifestyle and accept Wicca as anything other than pure evil, then they are willfully disobeying Jesus, and they are not Christians.

Ask them what II Cor 6:14-17 says. It says that Christians are required to shun non Christians. If these "cool Christians" remain friends with you, then they are not Christians.

Jesus doesn't want us to be cool or lukewarm Christians. Jesus wants us to be HOT Christians.

Rev 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

The good news is, your "cool Christian" friends will be joining you in Hell. The bad news is, you will be too busy being tortured by demons to notice or care.

Pastor Billy-Reuben