[Pim Pendergast]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

blah blah blah

Rusty is right. Muhammad obviously plagiarised from the Bible. Every argument you made can be found in the Bible as an argument in support of the existence of God (the real God, not your moon god).

Everyone knows God exists.

Rom 1:18-19 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

If you look at nature, you can see evidence of God's existence.

Rom 1:20a For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead.

The Bible is proof of God's existence because without it we wouldn't know Creation proves his existence.

People who say they don't believe in God are lying. They are suppressing the truth because they are unrighteous.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Rusty already quoted a verse that says how people will try to lead people away from Christ, so it is you who have proved the Bible to be accurate.

No one has any excuse for not knowing God exists.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

We have just proved the Koran is a forgery. Honestly, I'm getting tired of reading quotes from your silly little book.

[Izmael ibn Ibrahim]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

lies removed

What I am saying is it would take a lot a faith to believe Allah didn’t make everything and didn’t send the Qur’an. But it doesn’t come down to faith because everybody already knows. Atheism is a lie like Christianity. We know this because the Qur’an tells us as I mentioned above. I don’t have the lack of character to be an atheist. It comes down to whether you believe the Qur’an or the Bible. The Bible is wrong because even though I used to believe in your God because I used to be a Christian, I no longer believe in him and I now know Allah is the only real God and that I have always known this deep down all along. You said the Qur’an was fake, well hear the Qur’an’s challenge.

“And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.”(Surah 2:23-24)

Produce a surah or chapter from the Bible that is as good as or better than anything written in the Qur’an. You’ll never be able to because the Qur’an says it’s impossible. I could give the same challenge to atheists to show me something they’ve written that’s better than the Qur’an. We know the Qur’an is from Allah because it’s the most beautiful perfect well written book ever. You can’t get tired of it, Pim, because that’s also impossible and more proof of Allah.

No one has ever been heard to be bored with the recitation of the Quran

However beautiful and interesting, we can read a book at most two or three times and then are bored with it. However, no one has ever been heard to be bored with the recitation of the Quran. Hundreds of millions of Muslims recite portions from it in their five daily prayers and most of them recite it from beginning to end at least once a year. There have been hundreds of thousands of people reciting it from the beginning to the end once or twice or even three times a month. The more frequently one recites it, the more one benefits from it and the more desire one feels to recite it. One never gets tired of it, its wording, meaning and content, nor does the Quran lose anything of its originality and freshness. As time passes, it breathes into minds and souls new truths and meanings, thus increasing them in activity and liveliness. http://www.thewaytotruth.org/theholy...wordofgod.html

[MisterM]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

Islam is just another form of atheism. Both deny real God, attack True Christians, have a book full of lies and worship false god, Muslims their Moon god Allah and atheist their Monkey god Darwin. Do you notice that both begins with M... Coincidence? I don't think so because Freemasons also have M!

YiC, M

[BelieverInGod]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

What I am saying is it would take a lot a faith to believe Allah didn’t make everything and didn’t send the Qur’an. But it doesn’t come down to faith because everybody already knows. Atheism is a lie like Christianity. We know this because the Qur’an tells us as I mentioned above. I don’t have the lack of character to be an atheist. It comes down to whether you believe the Qur’an or the Bible. The Bible is wrong because even though I used to believe in your God because I used to be a Christian, I no longer believe in him and I now know Allah is the only real God and that I have always known this deep down all along. You said the Qur’an was fake, well hear the Qur’an’s challenge.

“And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.”(Surah 2:23-24)

Produce a surah or chapter from the Bible that is as good as or better than anything written in the Qur’an. You’ll never be able to because the Qur’an says it’s impossible. I could give the same challenge to atheists to show me something they’ve written that’s better than the Qur’an. We know the Qur’an is from Allah because it’s the most beautiful perfect well written book ever. You can’t get tired of it, Pim, because that’s also impossible and more proof of Allah.

Yeah, sounds like a cult to me

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Prayer and chanting rote are two different things. Chanting the Koran during "prayer" time is on equivalent to Buddhists chanting their mantra's. It keeps your mouth busy, but doesn't do much for your soul.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

Produce a surah or chapter from the Bible that is as good as or better than anything written in the Qur’an. You’ll never be able to

Please clear the sand and lube out of your orifices before posting further.

Your challenge is already trampled on as the Bible was written by many different authors over a period of 1600 years. The Koran was written by just one guy, a priest wannabe child molester with an ugly wife with a mustache who thought so highly of himself that he declared that God said of him that HE was the greatest saint ever. I don't even need to quote one single verse.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

Please clear the sand and lube out of your orifices before posting further.

Your challenge is already trampled on as the Bible was written by many different authors over a period of 1600 years. The Koran was written by just one guy, a priest wannabe child molester with an ugly wife with a mustache who thought so highly of himself that he declared that God said of him that HE was the greatest saint ever. I don't even need to quote one single verse.

Amen Pastor,

And as I like to point out, both moohomid and joseph smith were "visited by angels" not God himself. And what does the Bible say about angels?

2nd Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

So if Satan can transform himself into an angel of light, how do we know all of these other cults weren't started by Satan? How do we know when a message is from God or from Satan? Well the Bible tells us that too.

Jeremiah 14:13-16 Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place. Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Therefore thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

[Izmael ibn Ibrahim]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

Your challenge is already trampled on as the Bible was written by many different authors over a period of 1600 years.

You're afraid of my challenge because, as the Qur'an says, you can't produce a part of the Bible that is as well written as the Qur'an. Maybe you could try this one:

John 6:22 The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereinto his disciples were entered, and that Jesus went not with his disciples into the boat, but [that] his disciples were gone away alone;
John 6:23 (Howbeit there came other boats from Tiberias nigh unto the place where they did eat bread, after that the Lord had given thanks)
John 6:24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.

Could someone explain to me what it means?

[Didymus Much]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

You're afraid of my challenge because, as the Qur'an says, you can't produce a part of the Bible that is as well written as the Qur'an. Maybe you could try this one:

John 6:22 The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereinto his disciples were entered, and that Jesus went not with his disciples into the boat, but [that] his disciples were gone away alone;
John 6:23 (Howbeit there came other boats from Tiberias nigh unto the place where they did eat bread, after that the Lord had given thanks)
John 6:24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.

Could someone explain to me what it means?

Yes.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: I wish I had the faith of an atheist.

You're afraid of my challenge because, as the Qur'an says, you can't produce a part of the Bible that is as well written as the Qur'an. Maybe you could try this one:

John 6:22 The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereinto his disciples were entered, and that Jesus went not with his disciples into the boat, but [that] his disciples were gone away alone;
John 6:23 (Howbeit there came other boats from Tiberias nigh unto the place where they did eat bread, after that the Lord had given thanks)
John 6:24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus.

Could someone explain to me what it means?

Why have you stolen the identity of an apostate British coward who is spending time at Her Majesties Pleasure for terrorism?

Is there something you would like to tell us?

This is just typical of your ilk. Telling lies is second nature to you.