[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: About Wicca.

LaVey wasn't Spanish or Croation, he was an old joo carnival worker who invented satanism out of whole cloth (source here). He died a penniless drug addict in the gutter without a friend in the world. Is that the example you are advocating?

This is a Christian forum, not some satanic spamport. We follow Jesus, who is the exact opposite of satan. Any further attempts at shoving your deviltry down our True Christian™ throats will be met with large quantities of infractions.

[JennyD]

Re: About Wicca.

Wicca's golden rule is actually a lot like christianity's.

I see you know nothing about Christianity.

Who told you that God told us to do whatever we want, as long as we don't harm anyone else?

Christianity's True Golden Rule? FOLLOW THE LAWS. ALL OF THEM.

[jorell]

Re: About Wicca.

I've being reading your posts and what you say isn't true.

Pagans didn't sacrifice living beings in any time, there may of been people religiously sacrificing but they were not pagans.
christians that burned wiccans could be said as religiously sacrificing them.

There mightn't be much documentation around because it was destroyed. Most wicca in the "ancient times" wasn't documented anyway.

Do you think i care what the bible says about wicca and that you will burn in hell if you don't follow god and jesus. I don't believe in hell or heaven and i don't believe in god, jesus and satan either.

This forum makes "god" and "jesus" look evil by them wanting total control and saying everyone that does not believe in them and follow their laws are damned.

By the way i have "12" in my name cause the forum wouldn't let me have "joric" as name.

Joric.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: About Wicca.

Pagans didn't sacrifice living beings in any time, there may of been people religiously sacrificing but they were not pagans.

Right...The "Real Communist" fallacy. You know, communists don't put people in gulags, there may of been people putting people in gulags but they were not communists...

Who is it who was doing all those sacrifices? Where the Aztecs a bunch of Llamaists? I haven't heard the Dalai Llama give a shout out to his fellow aztecs lately.

christians that burned wiccans could be said as religiously sacrificing them.

Christians burned heretics and sorcerers. Not the fat, middle-class pasty harry potter readers who follow a shallow fad invented in the 1950's (aka Wiccans).

Most wicca in the "ancient times" wasn't documented anyway.

That's because pagans where illiterate savages. Does illiteracy give someone the right to murder people?

This forum makes "god" and "jesus" look evil by them wanting total control and saying everyone that does not believe in them and follow their laws are damned.

I think what you mean to say is "The BIBLE makes "god" and "jesus" look evil by them wanting total control and saying everyone that does not believe in them and follow their laws are damned", because that's what the Bible says.

Revelations 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

Got that? If you don't please Jesus so much that He writes down your name, it's eternal torture for you.

More from Revelations:

2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers

That's right: Jesus gives Christian Americans dominion (read: TOTAL CONTROL) over all the nations of the Earth, and we are to rule (read: TOTALLY CONTROL) the world with an Iron fist (rod) and smash to pieces anyone who does not obey us. So says JESUS!

[Brother Temperance]

Re: About Wicca.

Wicca's golden rule is actually a lot like christianity's.

How is your hippy gibberish a lot like "Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour or you will burn in Hell for eternity"?

Oh, if you are talking about Luciferianists, then I'm SURE they won't hurt anyone, will they? They only worship the mascot of evil.

And muslims worship the moon, but that doesn't stop them from being murderous savages now does it?

Do you think i care what the bible says about wicca and that you will burn in hell if you don't follow god and jesus.

I believe you'll care an awful lot when you wake up in the Lake of Fire, sonny jim!

I don't believe in hell or heaven and i don't believe in god, jesus and satan either.

Do you think that stops them from believing in you?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

I've being reading your posts and what you say isn't true.

Pagans didn't sacrifice living beings in any time, there may HAVE been people religiously sacrificing but they were not pagans.

Really? Do you even know the definition of "pagan"?!

Let's look at Wiccanpedophilia for some answers you might actually listen to:

The term "pagan" is a Christian adaptation of the "gentile" of Judaism, and as such has an inherent Abrahamic bias, and pejorative connotations among Westerners,[2] comparable to heathen, and infidel, mushrik and kafir (كافر) in Islam. For this reason, ethnologists avoid the term "paganism," with its uncertain and varied meanings, in referring to traditional or historic faiths, preferring more precise categories such as polytheism, shamanism, pantheism, or animism; however others criticise the use of these terms, claiming that these are only aspects that different faiths may share and do not denote the religions themselves.

Since the later 20th century, "Pagan" or "Paganism" has become widely used as a self-designation by adherents of Neopaganism.[3]

Basically, calling yourselves "pagan" is like the sodomites calling themselves "queers", or the darkies calling themselves "niggaz". You're demonstrating your own recognition that you are worthless in God's eyes by using a derogatory term to describe yourselves.

Let's look at Neopaganism.

Neopaganism or Neo-Paganism is an umbrella term used to identify a wide variety of modern religious movements, particularly those influenced by historical pre-Christian European "pagan" religions.[1][2]

Neo-Pagan religious movements are extremely diverse, with beliefs that range widely from polytheism to animism, to pantheism and other paradigms. Many Neopagans practice a spirituality that is entirely modern in origin, while others attempt to accurately reconstruct or revive indigenous, ethnic religions as found in historical and folkloric sources.[3] (see also List of Neopagan movements)

Neopaganism is particularly strong in the United States, Britain, Greece, Lithuania, Iceland, Scandinavia, Ukraine and Russia. The largest Neopagan movement is Wicca.

Let's see, among those are Druids. Did they ever sacrifice people?

Overview

The earliest records of the name druidae (Δρυΐδαι) is found in the works of Greek writers such as Sotion of Alexandria, who was cited by Diogenes Laertius in the third century CE.[1]

The Celtic communities Druids served were polytheistic. They also show signs of animism, in their reverence for various aspects of the natural world, such as the land, sea and sky,[2] and their veneration of other aspects of nature, such as sacred trees and groves (the oak and hazel were particularly revered), tops of hills, streams, lakes and plants such as the mistletoe.[3] Fire was regarded as a symbol of several divinities and was associated with cleansing. Purported ritual killing and human sacrifice were aspects of druidic culture that shocked classical writers.[4]

Apparently so.

I don't need to go any further, as I have here demonstrated that True Pagans have, in fact, used human and animal sacrifice in their worship.

You, being a fluffy bunny Wiccan, ignore the True Paganism and deny your demon "gods" their due. How do you think they will react when you die, and have dishonored their names by refusing to provide the sacrifices they demand?

christians that burned wiccans could be said as religiously sacrificing them.

Only if you are an imbecile.

First of all, to my knowledge, NEVER has a Wiccan been burned at the stake. Do you have any evidence that one has? Bear in mind that Wicca has only existed for FIFTY-FOUR YEARS.

Second, if someone were to burn a Wiccan at the stake, he would only be following God's command to execute witches.

There mightn't be much documentation around because it was destroyed. Most wicca in the "ancient times" wasn't documented anyway.

No, Wicca didn't exist prior to 1954! Unless Gerald Gardner traveled back in time and wrote something in the "ancient times", it's not possible for there to be ancient written references to Wicca!

There ARE ancient writings about the Druids, however:

^ Gruesome rites were noted by Lucan, Pharsalia 1.450-58; Caesar Gallic Wars, 6.16, 17.3-5; Suetonius Life of Claudius 25; Pomponius Mela 3.2.18-19; Cicero, Pro Fonteio. 31 and De Repubblica 9.15.

Do you think i care what the bible says about wicca and that you will burn in hell if you don't follow god and jesus. I don't believe in hell or heaven and i don't believe in god, jesus and satan either.

No, you believe in some bizarre "cosmic Judge Judy", the Horny God and the Bitchy Lady, who will watch every single thing you do like some sort of perverse shopping mall security guards, and then send back rewards or punishment amplified threefold. How depraved is that? How bored must they be to spend eternity watching YOU?

I can barely tolerate a few minutes to read your ridiculous posts!

This forum makes "god" and "jesus" look evil by them wanting total control and saying everyone that does not believe in them and follow their laws are damned.

I believe Brother Thurmond has addressed this admirably. Scroll up and review his words. Then read them again, and repeat as needed until they sink in.

You think God and Jesus "sound evil" because they aren't telling you what you want to hear. Guess what? A religion is TRUE, or it is FALSE. If you are picking a religion because it's what YOU want to hear, then it's FALSE.

You may as well be worshipping yourself!!

[dingo minors]

Re: About Wicca.

I see you know nothing about Christianity.

Who told you that God told us to do whatever we want, as long as we don't harm anyone else?

Christianity's True Golden Rule? FOLLOW THE LAWS. ALL OF THEM.

Actually, The considered "golden rule" is to do one to others as you would have them do unto you. Similar, but different because you still have to obey the bibles, where a pagan would not. Oh, btw Pastor Ezekiel, I didn't mean to offend anyone with that, merely show what true satanism is about. Now, Luciferianists do indeed worship satan, as such, who knows what a true luciferianist would do. They are so few and far between, I have yet to meet one and have an in-depth conversation about what their religion consists of. Oh, I see someone changed my name and signature. I gotta say, that's quite amusing.

[dingo minors]

Re: About Wicca.

Oh, also, that website isn't accurate, they do not worship Satan- at least, not in the common way. In The eyes of some Christians they do indeed worship Satan by not worshiping god.

[Petal]

Re: About Wicca.

Wiccans do not believe in Satan we believe in a lord and a lady

Mr.WartHost, is that you? please say it not so

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

I guess it was a typo. It's the Wiccan "LARD and Lady"!!

[hassiand]

Re: About Wicca.

Atheism FTW!!!!!!

[Nobar King]

Re: About Wicca.

Why do athiests always insist on 'piffleing the world'?

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

I'm not sure you guys know the difference between tradditional Paganism, neo-paganism and Wicca. Every historian knows that the first European Paganism was created by the Celts ( who had originally came from Scandinavia) and they spread their culture throughout Europe and even through some parts of Arabia (that's why Allah is Arabian for moon God). But the Europeans abolished Paganism and replaced it with Christianity.
When Julius Ceaser invaded Britain he saw a sophisticated branch of philosophers and bards who used their own form of sorcery and recorded the motion of the moon and sun.
Wicca was invented by a Spaniard called Alexander ( or 'Alejandro' which is Spanish for Alexander) Flaunders during the Holy Spanish inquisition and he helped thousands of moors and Pagans escape to Ireland, that's where he invented Wicca which is similair to Paganism except has some slightly different principles.
Neo-Paganism (Neo is latin for new) is the same as Paganism except with more modern principles; they use magick (the tradditional Pagan way of spelling magic is with a 'k').
As for the Horned God: he cannot possibley be Satan if Paganism was 6,000 years older than Christianity. I haveno idea where you guys got the crap about Wicca being 50-years old!

[Bob4God]

Re: About Wicca.

One thing I don't get is why the pro-Wicca folks always resort to boring us with all these long histories of how Wicca came to be and how it developed through this culture and that and all this 'nature worship' stuff and on and on.

Maybe it's a strategy to bore us to death because they don't have any real points to raise?

What you folks don't get is that it doesn't matter HOW it came to be, it's still unGodly no matter what.

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

But what YOU fail to see is that not everything in the bible is true; some stories were just metaphors Jesus used such as Adam and Eve and Noah's Arc. Paganism was only called unGodly by some monks who tried to keep down competition in case Christianity would fall. The CATHOLICS even did the witch burning (even though 95% of the victims weren't Pagans) and yet you call them devil worshippers!!