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  • jorell
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    • Jun 2008
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    #1

    About Wicca.

    To the users of this forums:

    Wicca is not a satanic worshiping religion like you see it as.
    Wiccans do not believe in Satan we believe in a lord and a lady and honor the elements.
    Wiccans do not use blood and do not make sacrifices during rituals (called Sabbaths).

    "An ye harm none, do what ye will."

    The last 8 words of the wiccan rede it means "if nothing is harmed do what you want" this is saying that wiccans won't do actions that cause harm.

    Wiccans also believe in a "Three fold law" which is the same concept of karma (what goes around comes around). Anything you do will come back to you three-fold whether its good or bad it will come back to either advantage or disadvantage you. This law deters us from performing bad acts and encourages us to performs good acts.

    Most wiccans do magick (won't explain at the moment) and such though some do not. Performing a ritual (sabbath) mightn't evolve magick (depends on the wiccan) it is just summoning the elements and honoring the lady and lord.

    Most wiccans forgive christians for "the burning times" (a sensitive topic for both wiccans and christians) most modern day christians are not proud of what the ancestors of their religion did. Wiccans forgive them because they cant be held responisible for what thier ancestors did.

    Joric.
    Yes, I think I'm Superman's dad.
  • jorell
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    #2
    Re: About Wicca.

    edit: Wiccans do not make sacrifices at all.
    Yes, I think I'm Superman's dad.

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    • Wide-Open
      Director of European Evangelical Outreach
      A Shining Example of Christ's Love
      Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
      True Christian™
      • Nov 2007
      • 18449

      #3
      Re: About Wicca.

      Originally posted by joric12 View Post
      Most wiccans forgive christians for "the burning times" (a sensitive topic for both wiccans and christians) most modern day christians are not proud of what the ancestors of their religion did. Wiccans forgive them because they cant be held responisible for what thier ancestors did.

      Joric.
      Oh dear. So medieval Christians (which were mostly cathlycks BTW) killed followers of a - ahum - "religion" that only exists for about 50 years now.

      Sure pal.

      That makes as much sense as Ben Hur wearing a Rolex.

      Anyway, I'm glad we now have yet another thread about Wickers. They were sorely lacking.
      Psalm 81:10:
      I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
      open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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      • jorell
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        #4
        Re: About Wicca.

        Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
        "religion" that only exists for about 50 years now.
        Wicca has existed way longer than 50 years because it has been structured around paganism. Paganism has been around before christianity for your information.
        Yes, I think I'm Superman's dad.

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        • ExGay Alex
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          True Christian™
          • May 2008
          • 1295

          #5
          Re: About Wicca.

          Originally posted by joric12 View Post
          The last 8 words of the wiccan rede it means "if nothing is harmed do what you want" this is saying that wiccans won't do actions that cause harm.

          Wiccans also believe in a "Three fold law" which is the same concept of karma (what goes around comes around). Anything you do will come back to you three-fold whether its good or bad it will come back to either advantage or disadvantage you. This law deters us from performing bad acts and encourages us to performs good acts.

          Most wiccans do magick (won't explain at the moment) and such though some do not. Performing a ritual (sabbath) mightn't evolve magick (depends on the wiccan) it is just summoning the elements and honoring the lady and lord.

          Most wiccans forgive christians for "the burning times" (a sensitive topic for both wiccans and christians) most modern day christians are not proud of what the ancestors of their religion did. Wiccans forgive them because they cant be held responisible for what thier ancestors did.

          Joric.

          What a bunch of hooey. You use all of these Middle English spellings and spout all sorts of mythological imagery about "summoning the elements" and blah blah blah. Your coming onto a Godly forum such as this is particularly offensive.

          When will you Wiccans finally abandon all of this and turn to the Bible and
          accept Jesus as your savior before you end up in the pits of Hell? REBUKE your demons and REPENT your sins. I am praying for your soul.
          "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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          • Herr_Doktor Phd.
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            • Mar 2008
            • 493

            #6
            Re: About Wicca.

            Originally posted by joric12 View Post
            Wicca has existed way longer than 50 years because it has been structured around paganism. Paganism has been around before christianity for your information.
            Modern Wicca has only been around for 50 years. The people that recreated it were not following a lineal tradition. They were recreating a set of ideals they constructed within a modern framework.

            What does all that mean? Well let me put this idea to you:

            Would you put a child out in the woods for the wolves to eat because you believe infanticide to be a legitimate practice? No you would not and neither would Gerald Gardner the father of modern Wicca. However, the pagans of two thousand years ago would. That's what a modern construct is, a fantasy.
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            Exodus 22:18
            says, "Suffer not a witch to live." Deuteronomy 18:10 says, "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch."

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            • Bobby-Joe
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              • Sep 2006
              • 18405

              #7
              Re: About Wicca.

              Originally posted by Herr_Doktor Phd. View Post
              Would you put a child out in the woods for the wolves to eat because you believe infanticide to be a legitimate practice? No you would not and neither would Gerald Gardner the father of modern Wicca. However, the pagans of two thousand years ago would. That's what a modern construct is, a fantasy.
              I would like any of the endless "pagans" we get to cite a single pagan practice thatcan be documented to date from the ancient period. Face it you losers, the Catholic church is more authentically pagan than you guys are.

              Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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              Time to come clean on Benghazi Mr Obama!

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              • Wide-Open
                Director of European Evangelical Outreach
                A Shining Example of Christ's Love
                Quite possibly the only decent, heterosexual human being in the whole of Europe
                True Christian™
                • Nov 2007
                • 18449

                #8
                Re: About Wicca.

                Originally posted by Bobby-Joe View Post
                I would like any of the endless "pagans" we get to cite a single pagan practice thatcan be documented to date from the ancient period. Face it you losers, the Catholic church is more authentically pagan than you guys are.
                Amen Brother! They can't, can they.

                I wonder what's next. People claiming to believe in a superstition "religion" that is yet to be invented in 10 years time?

                50 years. Blimey, some of my socks are older than that.

                Joric, are you really 12 years old? In that case we'll have to ban you. Unless the number "12" is something you came up with when you multiply dead wolves with, say, uhm, earwax, whilst summoning the elements.

                People believe just about anything these days.
                Psalm 81:10:
                I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                • StreetPreacherLew
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 107

                  #9
                  Re: About Wicca.

                  Exodus 22:18 in 19 English translations of the Bible:

                  Various Biblical translations render this verse as:
                  1. American Standard Version "Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live."
                  2. The Answer: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
                  3. Amplified Bible: You shall not allow a woman to live who practices sorcery.
                  4. Good News Version: Put to death any woman who practices magic.
                  5. James Moffatt Translation: You shall not allow any sorceress to live.
                  6. Jerusalem Bible: You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
                  7. King James Version: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
                  8. Living Bible: A sorceress shall be put to death.
                  9. Modern Language Bible: Allow no sorceress to live.
                  10. New American Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
                  11. New American Standard Bible: You shall not let a sorceress live.
                  12. New Century Version: Put to death any woman who does evil magic.
                  13. New International Version: Do not allow a sorceress to live.
                  14. New Living Translation: A sorceress must not be allowed to live.
                  15. New Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live.
                  16. New World Translation: You must not preserve a sorceress alive.
                  17. The Promise: Contemporary English Version: Death is the punishment for witchcraft.
                  18. Revised Standard Version: You shall not permit a sorceress to live.
                  19. Revised English Bible: You must not allow a witch to live.

                  BLASPHEMOUS New Century Version! A horrific example of bad translation of Olde English. How preposterous that God would ever leave a loophole like that!

                  But, even the satanically inspired "versions" which aren't the True Word still agree with the KJV: Kill the Witch!

                  Wicca is just an excuse to log out of World of Warcraft and go dance around naked in the middle of the woods with 2 middle-aged perverted men and a dozen pale, fat lesbians!

                  Seriously, you don't see any Nigra Wiccans, do ya?

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                  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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                    • May 2008
                    • 13996

                    #10
                    Re: About Wicca.

                    Joric -

                    I think I shall address your post line by line.

                    Originally posted by 12-year-old-Jerk View Post
                    To the users of this forums:

                    Wicca is not a satanic worshiping religion like you see it as.
                    Actually, every religion which does not follow God is, by definition, the work of Satan. By ignoring Jesus, you are Hellbound.
                    Wiccans do not believe in Satan we believe in a lord and a lady and honor the elements.
                    See above. You are worshipping Satan by another name, as you turn your back on Jesus.
                    Wiccans do not use blood and do not make sacrifices during rituals (called Sabbaths).
                    Pagans did. They worshipped the same demons you worship, and they sacrificed animals and/or children. It's even recorded in the Bible!

                    These things make God VERY VERY ANGRY!
                    "An ye harm none, do what ye will."

                    The last 8 words of the wiccan rede it means "if nothing is harmed do what you want" this is saying that wiccans won't do actions that cause harm.
                    Then why do you need a "three fold law"? And is that some sort of Origasmi thing?

                    Wiccans also believe in a "Three fold law" which is the same concept of karma (what goes around comes around). Anything you do will come back to you three-fold whether its good or bad it will come back to either advantage or disadvantage you. This law deters us from performing bad acts and encourages us to performs good acts.
                    So, you're so righteous and good and so religiously follow your "harm none, do as ye will" (a fluffy-bunny Gardnerian corruption of Aleister Crowley's "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"), that you can't even trust yourselves to do the right thing, no. You need your "lord and lady" sitting up on their thrones, dishing out divine reward or retribution for each and every one of your actions!

                    What are they, some sort of cosmic Santa Claus?

                    Are you Wiccans so incapable of morality that you can only behave yourselves like good little children if Mommy and Daddy are constantly watching your every move?
                    Most wiccans do magick (won't explain at the moment) and such though some do not. Performing a ritual (sabbath) mightn't evolve magick (depends on the wiccan) it is just summoning the elements and honoring the lady and lord.
                    See quoted verses above. How does the Creator of the Universe feel about such silliness? And who are YOU to "summon" anything?! Are you so deranged as to think you, a mere human, can control the wind and the rain and the waters of the ocean? You're not MOSES!!
                    Most wiccans forgive christians for "the burning times" (a sensitive topic for both wiccans and christians) most modern day christians are not proud of what the ancestors of their religion did. Wiccans forgive them because they cant be held responisible for what thier ancestors did.

                    Joric.
                    Excuse me.

                    Nope, not done.





                    There, that's better.

                    You really ARE 12, aren't you?

                    You modern-day fluffy bunny twits who completely ignore what True Pagans did (human and animal sacrifice, among other things) still want to play victim with this "burning times" nonsense, and "forgive" True Christians™ for doing exactly what GOD'S WORD SAYS TO DO?



                    Sorry. I wasn't done.

                    You, little miss, are an imbecile. I'd wager you got yourself a copy of Teen Witch by Silverbunny Ravenfluff from the library, and now think yourself a "powerful witch". OK, let's see your great "magickal" powers demonstrated, shall we?

                    Yeah, I thought so.

                    It's time to quit playing games and worshipping some imaginary "lord and lady" who sit in the sky on their invisible thrones judging you and making sure you're a good little girl, yet who somehow manage never to intervene when you need their help. Instead, they ignore your cries for assistance when floods and hurricanes and tornadoes threaten, despite the fact that you "worship nature"!

                    How about getting right with Jesus, so you can spend eternity in Heaven, praising Him without ceasing forever? He's always there for you, and never ignores the prayers of a True Christian™!
                    Bible boring? Nonsense!
                    Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                    You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                    • StreetPreacherLew
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 107

                      #11
                      Re: About Wicca.

                      Wicca: The LIE



                      Wicca: The TRUTH



                      Witches need searing in righteous flame.

                      The PROMISE:



                      The REALITY:



                      Lucifer's a big deceiver, Brothers and Sisters! Don't fall into the Cauldron of Wicca! Don't let your boys and girls become Emo! Saving people from the Fires of Hell is the right and proper thing to do!
                      Burn a Witch TODAY!!!

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                      • Marshall
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                        True Christian™
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3322

                        #12
                        Re: About Wicca.

                        The first post here was made by someone who hasn't experienced Wicca in real life apparently.
                        There were several falsehoods in it. Behold:

                        Wicca is not a satanic worshiping religion like you see it as.
                        The Wiccan Rede is identical to the Satanic Golden Rule.

                        Wiccans do not believe in Satan we believe in a lord and a lady and honor the elements.
                        They don't believe in Satan? They sure use a lot of Satanic Law as a basis for their rituals and belief base. Who is The Horned One supposed to be? Richard Simmons?

                        Wiccans do not use blood and do not make sacrifices during rituals (called Sabbaths).
                        Another Satanic thing, rituals on the Sabbath. Black Sabbaths if you will. Black Sabbath is a Satanic band named after such "innocent" rituals. What of the cat heads Wiccans are famous for throwing at Christians and churches?

                        "An ye harm none, do what ye will."

                        The last 8 words of the wiccan rede it means "if nothing is harmed do what you want" this is saying that wiccans won't do actions that cause harm.
                        You just defended the Satanic Golden Rule you foolish devil worshipper.

                        Wiccans also believe in a "Three fold law" which is the same concept of karma (what goes around comes around). Anything you do will come back to you three-fold whether its good or bad it will come back to either advantage or disadvantage you. This law deters us from performing bad acts and encourages us to performs good acts.
                        Another Laveyan Satanic concept based on human consequences rather than Heavenly consequences. Good deeds get good results based on a universal law of karma. You Satanists are nothing if not supremely arrogant.

                        Most wiccans do magick (won't explain at the moment) and such though some do not. Performing a ritual (sabbath) mightn't evolve magick (depends on the wiccan) it is just summoning the elements and honoring the lady and lord.
                        Summoning what? Elements? Or ELEMENTALS? Satanic jargan for demons and ghouls. Renaming things doesn't change what they are. Haven't you ever read that quote by that midevil queer Shakespeare?

                        Most wiccans forgive christians for "the burning times" (a sensitive topic for both wiccans and christians) most modern day christians are not proud of what the ancestors of their religion did. Wiccans forgive them because they cant be held responisible for what thier ancestors did.
                        As a True Christian(TM) I am immensely grateful for what my faith has accomplished in what was a savage and primitive world of days gone by. I am grateful that the Satanists living in the proto-Americas were cast into the flames for their wicked attempts at conjuring and plague. Otherwise America might be rife with superstitious idiots praying to invisible men floating in space instead of the Christian nation it is.

                        Hope that helped.
                        God bless America, the Second Amendment and the Constitution. God bless the United States Marine Corps and all who fight for Jesus in third world cess pools. God bless the GOP and all they stand for, Truth, Honesty and the American people. God bless Landover Baptist Church and all True Christians™ the world over. Curses to our Muslim President, his failure is our Salvation.

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                        • dingo minors
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                          • Jun 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: About Wicca.

                          For references on anything, you can go here.

                          Internet Sacred Text Archive - Quiet place in cyberspace devoted to religious tolerance and scholarship.


                          Sorry, I'd set it as a hyperlink, but my computer won't allow it now. You'd have to copy and paste it into the browser. Before anyone says how unholy this website is before looking at it, They have more then one religion. It is a collective set of information about each religion. If you go to estoeric/occult, occult is a common name given to a topic such as paganism. You will see a book that was originally PUBLISHED in 1650, shortly after it was rediscovered. Most of the "philosophical" Corpus Hermeticum can be dated to around AD 300, in which the time of Paganism had not yet ended, and has still been tracked back too. Here is your proof of what is being told to you is true. I'd be happy to find more, if you wish. I'm sorry If I came off a bit rude, I just hate people denying history.
                          Aww, Somebody gave me a signature.. I better change it.

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                          • dingo minors
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                            #14
                            Re: About Wicca.

                            Oh, it was automatically set to a hyperlink. cool.
                            Aww, Somebody gave me a signature.. I better change it.

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                            • dingo minors
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                              • Jun 2008
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                              #15
                              Re: About Wicca.

                              I know it's not the same as satanisms golden rule, as satanisms rules are

                              The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

                              by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967

                              [Spanish, Croation]

                              {satanic diatribe deleted}


                              Wicca's golden rule is actually a lot like christianity's. Oh, if you are talking about Luciferianists, then I'm SURE they won't hurt anyone, will they? They only worship the mascot of evil.
                              Last edited by Pastor Ezekiel; 06-25-2008, 04:46 AM. Reason: satanic diatribe deleted. This is a CHRISTIAN forum.
                              Aww, Somebody gave me a signature.. I better change it.

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