[Psalm 51:10]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Do you think that people can't read this thread and see that you are completely ignoring my post? You have YET to admit your points were refuted. Must be embarrassing.

It's his exit strategy. He does not want to admit defeat, because he thinks we are just ... but the Bible cannot be rewritten, so...

YIC

I would very much appreciate it if you would grant me some basic respect. For example, please allow more than 2 minutes to formulate an answer before you begin mocking me. I would hate to give a response that was not well thought-out, as you would mock me all the more.

In response to:

I don't recall anyone in this thread saying that. Can you show us a quote from someone where they said that?

I offer the following examples:

You might wan't to look for some new friends, it looks like most of them are SLUTS AND WHORES

(This was given in response to my statement that I have several friends who were raped under varying circumstances.)

The whore frolics around town in trampy clothes. (Sin) The man lusts.

(Note that Gabriel does not allow for a man to become lustful unless a girl is dressed in trampy clothes.)

Let's be clear here, the ONLY victim of rape is the man. He is the one who let this little temptress tease him into committing sin, and he is the one the courts victimize and throw into prison, when this girl was probably dressed as a whore and just asking to be raped. If girls didn't dress like prostitutes and sluts, poor men like this wouldnt fall into their trap. It's up to the girl to do the right thing, she obviously led this man on, and she should have to deal with the consequences. You play, you pay!

(Again, it is assumed that the girl initiated it all.)

Finally:

So you somehow feel, that the man is not a victim, clearly we have show you both are victims

I will concede that sometimes the man is a victim as well, but i believe there are situations where the woman could be the only victim. Will you at least grant me that?

[James Hutchins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Notice how Joe is ignoring my posts now. Interesting....

[James Dewitt]

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I will concede that sometimes the man is a victim as well, but i believe there are situations where the woman could be the only victim. Will you at least grant me that?

Why?

If you are driving a car, and you cross an intersection and another car hits you.
You had the green light, so its all the other drivers fault ? No you to have
fault in the crash as well,had you not been on the road, the accident would not have happened.

[GOD=life]

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The point is: we are discussing 1 specific scenario.

If you want to discuss another scenario, hypothetical or not, open a new thread. Then you can place demands on the answers.

Now your status is "someone who derails the topic at hand".

You can rest assured that people here will be more than willing to discuss any specific scenario. NOTE: I really do mean this constructively.

[Psalm 51:10]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Notice how Joe is ignoring my posts now. Interesting....

Once again, I must ask that I be granted the common courtesy of being given time to formulate answers. Unfortunately, I have yet to acquire the ability to have everything I think be automatically projected onto your computer screen. As such, I need time to finish typing one answer, post it, read the posts that have been made while I was typing that first answer, and then form ad type the second answer. It is, as you can imagine, a somewhat time consuming process.

You may call me Joe if you like, though I much prefer Toby. I would indeed pick up and spend the dollar, if it's owner were so foolish as to throw it on the ground, or so careless as to drop it without notice. I would not, however, forcibly take the dollar from it's owner.

Perhaps we have a fundamentally different view of what constitutes rape, and therein lies the basis of our disagreement.

[Psalm 51:10]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Lest I be yet again accused of ignoring someone's post as an "exit strategy" I am informing you now that I have business to attend, and in 15 minutes I will be unavailable for the remainder of the day. Anyone who will require and immediate response will kindly note this. Thank you all, and good day to you.

[James Hutchins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Once again, I must ask that I be granted the common courtesy of being given time to formulate answers. Unfortunately, I have yet to acquire the ability to have everything I think be automatically projected onto your computer screen. As such, I need time to finish typing one answer, post it, read the posts that have been made while I was typing that first answer, and then form ad type the second answer. It is, as you can imagine, a somewhat time consuming process.

You may call me Joe if you like, though I much prefer Toby. I would indeed pick up and spend the dollar, if it's owner were so foolish as to throw it on the ground, or so careless as to drop it without notice. I would not, however, forcibly take the dollar from it's owner.

Perhaps we have a fundamentally different view of what constitutes rape, and therein lies the basis of our disagreement.

Toby now, OK, I can live with that.

I did not realize you were a little slow. I am sure everyone will take that into account and try to be more understanding.

So Toby, you'd take the dollar. Interesting. A dollar that was not yours, that was not offered to you, that you knew was owned by someone else, you have no qualms about taking it.
If you found out later, that dollar was supposed to be used to feed a starving person who subsequently dies, what would you do? You kept money that was not yours, and though your selfishness, indirectly caused the death of a fellow human.
Should you go to prison for life for that or should you do what you can. Return the money (marry the spoiled girl), try and help out another member of the family (pay the 50 shekels.)

[James Hutchins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Lest I be yet again accused of ignoring someone's post as an "exit strategy" I am informing you now that I have business to attend, and in 15 minutes I will be unavailable for the remainder of the day. Anyone who will require and immediate response will kindly note this. Thank you all, and good day to you.

Phew, I made it in the deadline. I hate this kind of pressure!

[Nico de Vries]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Did you read it yourself? If not please do so now, it seems you might have missed a few parts, e.g. the part about interfaith dialog.

Did you perhaps read the Bible as inaccurate as you did read the Noob section?

If you think I am unnecessarily harsh here, please keep in mind your salvation might depend on this!

[Korrisel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Friends,

I recently received a letter from a concerned parent. In the letter she told me that her daughter had been raped, but was refusing to marry her rapist as per Deuteronomy 22:28-29. The stupid girl actually wants to press charges on the man!

Not only that, but that she also plans to kill the poor unborn baby her rapist had given her! Sickening! Have young people today got NO morals?

Any and all advice on what I can say to convince this girl to do the right thing would be great. Should I start with the basics ?

"Whore, you'll burn in Hell for all eternity - unless you marry your rapist"??

Or should I go for a more subtle approach??

Scripture:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (King James Version)

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

You are honestly THE dumbest person I have ever seen on the internet. She was forced onto sex and she has marry the criminal? Also, on an unrelated note, my friend is gay. I found him pretty human, but what would you say he is? Inhuman? Christianity and ghetto people RUIN America.

[Noah Dint]

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You are honestly THE dumbest person I have ever seen on the internet. She was forced onto sex and she has marry the criminal? Also, on an unrelated note, my friend is gay. I found him pretty human, but what would you say he is? Inhuman? Christianity and ghetto people RUIN America.

Well as a person that calls others names, does not agree with The Bible or God himself and has a homer for a friend - your oppinion is greatly appreciated.

-ND

[klaangen]

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Kill the daughter... I she doesent marry her rapist she does not deserve life...
The bastard child should still be born and for the rest of it´s life learn about her mothers refusal and how evil she was and how bad he/her are...

[GOD=life]

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Also, on an unrelated (unrelated, really?) note, my boyfriend is gay. I found him pretty human, but what would you say he is? Inhuman?

Someone who can be saved and make the right choice once he can get away from bad lieberal influences like yours. We love your friend. Please send your friend to us so that we can lovingly help him find the path to Heaven.

Let me ask you: would you consider someone your friend if that friend gave you advice that would land you in prison and be sodomized? Yet, you are that type of friend to allow the guy to go to Hell. You are his enabler. You say it is okay to be homersexual. This will lead him to Hell.

In short, your gay friend is the victim. YOU are the inhuman one here.

[Ir<3god]

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Wow this place is all sorts of fucked up, ya'll need to get some humanity. Fuck this place, Imma go fap to some goth homos

[James Dewitt]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Bye Bye now,I hope you enjoy HELL