[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

If my daughter was ever of age and she was raped I'd kill the man. Plain and simple. Or any man for that fact that thinks just because they are bigger and stronger that they have the right to take what they want from a woman. And if men are suppose to be stronger than a woman why is it rapists are such weak willed men that give in to temptation? Should they not pray and ask God to stop them from committing such an immoral act?

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[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

If my daughter was ever of age and she was raped I'd kill the man. Plain and simple. Or any man for that fact that thinks just because they are bigger and stronger that they have the right to take what they want from a woman. And if men are suppose to be stronger than a woman why is it rapists are such weak willed men that give in to temptation? Should they not pray and ask God to stop them from committing such an immoral act?

Then you're not a Christian. That's not how God wants us to behave.

Please go back and read this thread from the first post.

[matx21]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Let me pose a few questions and then respond to them.
Q. Why does a girl dress like a slut?
A. Because she wants to be raped.

Q. Who's fault is it she was raped?
A. Hers. She was looking for it.

Q. If she wanted to get raped, is it really rape?
A. Yes, of the poor fellow.

Q. How could the fellow be the victim?
A. Because he was coerced into doing something he did not want to do.

What we end up with is a woman with child, a child who might not have a father. A woman who has been violated and my end up being a whore. Finally, we have the poor fellow who is attacked and traumatized for simply trying to add to God's Army.

So many of the FemNazi's in the world always say it is the mans fault, that the man is stronger and can over power the woman. Well, why do you think God made man stronger? It is the same reason he made man smarter. It is the natural order of things.

so let me get this straight.God made men stronger so they can rape women?right

[matx21]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I'll ignore your hurtful, untrue insults, and focus on your bolded words. We do have to force the girl to marry her rapist, as that is, according to the Bible, the required punishment of said rapist.

Indeed, such punishment may seem cruel, but the LORD really does know best, dear.

i dnt think u will ever have to worry about getting raped sweetheart.unless your hanging with some of the good revrends here

[SayvedByTheLord]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

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[James Hutchins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

so let me get this straight.God made men stronger so they can rape women?right

Men are stronger, both physically and mentally. Because of this, women are inferior. Now, if you'd of read the words that cam before this, you'd see why rape is not always the mans fault. Just like the Devil, women use their wiles on a man to seduce him into committing acts against his free will. As everyone knows, free will is a gift from God and is not to be abused. So these evil women not only rape men but they defile a gift of from God. Deplorable!

[Jinnye]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

The rapist is NOT the victim. The rapist is a criminal. No one forced him to whip out his johnson.

I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.

[Imam Rashik]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.

It is not rape unless there is four witness. The victim is the man because she cannot call the four witnesses. The woman will be punished according to Allah's will.

You have lost your way with Allah (pbuh). Jinnye read the following Sura's from The Holy Quran to help in your understanding.

SURA 4.
15. And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four [witnesses] from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.
16. And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is Oft-returning [to mercy], the Merciful.

SURA 24.
2. [As for] the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, [giving] a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
3. The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or idolatress, and [as for] the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater; and it is forbidden to the believers.
4. And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, [giving] eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors,

[BelieverInGod]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

It is not rape unless there is four witness. The victim is the man because she cannot call the four witnesses. The woman will be punished according to Allah's will.

You have lost your way with Allah (pbuh). Jinnye read the following Sura's from The Holy Quran to help in your understanding.

SURA 4.
15. And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four [witnesses] from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.
16. And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is Oft-returning [to mercy], the Merciful.

SURA 24.
2. [As for] the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, [giving] a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
3. The fornicator shall not marry any but a fornicatress or idolatress, and [as for] the fornicatress, none shall marry her but a fornicator or an idolater; and it is forbidden to the believers.
4. And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them, [giving] eighty stripes, and do not admit any evidence from them ever; and these it is that are the transgressors,

So this is why Islam has no rapes, the only way you're going to get 4 witnesses is in a gang-rape situation, and which 4 out of the group are going to squeal on the others?

No the Bible is very clear about this.

Raped out in the country and screams ~ Girl is innocent
Raped in the city and doesn't scream ~ Girl is guilty

Girl is raped and not betrothed, she marries her rapist.

It's all found in Deuteronomy 22

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.

Who cares what you think? We follow the Holy Word of God, not random feminazis who barge into our Christian forum unwelcomed.

[handmaiden]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

You know, when my grandmother was 16, her parents let her eventual husband get a look at her. She was told not to look at him, of course.

Her father asked the guy a few questions, which he answered with lies, but other than that, the men settled things between themselves which is correct in God's Eyes.

My grandmother didn't get any say. The women in the Bible don't get any say. Marriage is too important a matter to be left in the hands of women, who have little authority as per God's directive.

If a girl refuses to obey her father and marry that man he gives her to, regardless of the circumstances, they should deny her a few meals, lace her toothpaste or whatever with a mild sedative and walk her up the aisle with a strong arm at her back. The father can then hold the daughter's hand as she signs the license. Done deal.

My grandmother had 12 children and supported them with a sewing business. She paid for the shoes that my grandfather made for them and endured regular beatings while cooking delicious meals. She was a woman who knew how to OBEY.

Today's women could learn much from her.


Proudly Yours,

Handmaiden

[Michael. P]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I agree. How can the criminal be a victim? The girl is the only victim here. And if she will have the kid, the kid won`t be loved, cause it`s made by raping, not love.

The girl shouldnt have tried to tempt him as a vile succubus in the first place then.

[Mt.HermonSantaCruz90]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I must admit I am curious on something here. It is clearly written on what is to be done when a girl is raped. What if the woman agrees to abide by word of God and marry her rapist but the rapist refuses or disappears to where he can not be found? What becomes of the woman? Is she to remain unmarried? Allowed to be betrothed to another?
~Quite Interested

[WinnerNotSinner]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

I must admit I am curious on something here. It is clearly written on what is to be done when a girl is raped. What if the woman agrees to abide by word of God and marry her rapist but the rapist refuses or disappears to where he can not be found? What becomes of the woman? Is she to remain unmarried? Allowed to be betrothed to another?
~Quite Interested

She IS still married. You can't be "unmarried" unless you divorce, which GOD really hates big time.

I think this verse explains what should happen to such a woman. It is obvious that if the rapist runs off then she has done something to annoy him, probably like speaking over him or some other unGodly action - enough to drive any man crazy. The Bible is clear, the troublesome mischievous whore must be stoned to death.

Deuteronomy 22:13
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate.... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Shout GLORY! :

[Mt.HermonSantaCruz90]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

She IS still married. You can't be "unmarried" unless you divorce, which GOD really hates big time.

I think this verse explains what should happen to such a woman. It is obvious that if the rapist runs off then she has done something to annoy him, probably like speaking over him or some other unGodly action - enough to drive any man crazy. The Bible is clear, the troublesome mischievous whore must be stoned to death.

Deuteronomy 22:13
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate.... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Shout GLORY! :

Unfortunately I think you may not fully have understood the situation in my question. First off, you said that the woman is married. Is it the rape that makes her married? As far as I am aware it is not one in the same but that the rape requires marriage. And when it comes to the rapist I am referrig to an already unGodly man that refuses to marry because he is not a Christian and does not believe in God; but the woman does. She did not provoke the rape, but is still abiding the word of God and trying to follow his word but being denied that ability.What is to be done?