[bevo_with_hair]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

I'm on BIRTH CONTROL (don't you dare tell me I'm going to hell for that, it helps me with painful periods and prevents pregnancies at a young age)

The pain of menstruation is the same as the pain of childbirth given to us to remind us of how Eve got us all kicked out of paradise. You need to suffer without pills and realize the pain is there for your salvation.

As for hygiene, neoprene and stainless steel are easily washable. One only need to purchase two belts for convenience and protection while one is being cleaned.

[Sammie G]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

It all depends on the state laws. My dad made me start wearing one once i stared middle school and i continued to wear it up in till my last birthday because I turned 16 and according to Michigan state laws I am at the legal age of consent. If he has continued to force me to wear a chastity belt after I turned 16 it could have caused a lot of legal trouble.(My gym teacher saw it and reported it to the school district and police.) He also only made me wear it when I would be away from home for more then a couple hours without a parent or trusted adult. He would let me take it off when i was home because it didn't fit quite right and would hurt after a couple hours.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

Thank you for contributing. Perhaps you'd like tomake an introfuction here.

[CornelisDommelul]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

You're sick you should let yourself get beaten by your father, go to a proper church, see a phsychiator, go to a good Baptist church, im sure they can help you, it's not too late yet to be saved.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

You're sick you should let yourself get beaten by your father, go to a proper church, see a phsychiator, go to a good Baptist church, im sure they can help you, it's not too late yet to be saved.

My father and I are rarely on the same continent. I already attend a Proper Church and am myself a music therapist (although I am not a psychodynamicist). I have received much help from The Pastoral Team here at Landover and have that Blessed Assurance perhaps you are in episode however and talking to yourself?

[SoleofWA]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

I know this thread is old, but I am VERY disappointed in all of you. The Bible never states to force your children to obey you by placing Chacity belts on them and never giving them a moments rest. The bible does say to rase your children in the ways of God, but in no way are you ever to force your beliefs on them. Although you may find this hard to believe, you have to let them grow and make there own decisions. You are there to help and give uplifting words, not to abuse and make them do what you think is best. A Chasity belt is not an option, it is child abuse, and was never once used in the Bilble as a means to stop unwanted relations. And should never be used. By forcing your children to ware these monstrosities you are hurting them more then helping them. You will push them further and further away. SHAME on all of you for thinking this is the right way to act.

My father is a pastor and I was raised up well in the faith with my four brothers and one sister, we all had the freedom to do what we wanted to do, and we chose well, because our father raised us well. When we reached the age of 15 we got to go out and chose our own church and our own fellowship. I now have a man whom I have been daiting for 3 long years, and we love each other, and have decided that the church we where attending was not right in a number of the things they beleved where true, but if we ever walked into a church that beleved some of the stuff that has been shared here on this thread we would leave no questions asked. Our children will be raised right.

Also, it is wrong for you to be judging and daming other people to hell, that is not your place. A person is not dammed to hell if they have a slip up in fath, or even if there slip up goes for years. All can and will be forgivin, because our God is a forgiving God, and not a damming one.

[John Allen]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

*blah blah blah*

How about you stop going yappity yappity yap and go introduce yourself in the introduction forum? http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=2

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

I know this thread is old, but I am VERY disappointed in all of you. The Bible never states to force your children to obey you by placing Chacity belts on them and never giving them a moments rest. The bible does say to rase your children in the ways of God, but in no way are you ever to force your beliefs on them.

Baloney.



(Ephesians 6:4) "And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord."

Although you may find this hard to believe, you have to let them grow and make there own decisions. You are there to help and give uplifting words, not to abuse and make them do what you think is best. A Chasity belt is not an option, it is child abuse, and was never once used in the Bilble as a means to stop unwanted relations. And should never be used. By forcing your children to ware these monstrosities you are hurting them more then helping them. You will push them further and further away. SHAME on all of you for thinking this is the right way to act.

Please provide Scripture that specifically says this.

My father is a pastor and I was raised up well in the faith with my four brothers and one sister, we all had the freedom to do what we wanted to do, and we chose well, because our father raised us well. When we reached the age of 15 we got to go out and chose our own church and our own fellowship. I now have a man whom I have been daiting for 3 long years, and we love each other, and have decided that the church we where attending was not right in a number of the things they beleved where true, but if we ever walked into a church that beleved some of the stuff that has been shared here on this thread we would leave no questions asked. Our children will be raised right.

So, you been living in sin with a man for 3 years, you don't go to church, you provide absolutely no Scriptural support for any of your crazy assertions, but you're here to tell us all about what the Bible says?

Awesome.

Also, it is wrong for you to be judging and daming other people to hell, that is not your place. A person is not dammed to hell if they have a slip up in fath, or even if there slip up goes for years. All can and will be forgivin, because our God is a forgiving God, and not a damming one.

More baloney. We are commanded by God to judge others:

(1 Corinthians 2:15) "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

And if people continue to sin when they KNOW it's wrong, they are going to Hell:

(James 4:17) "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."

Try actually reading the Bible before telling me what's in it.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

The bible does say to rase your children in the ways of God,

Yes, it does.

Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

but in no way are you ever to force your beliefs on them.

No; we're to force God's beliefs on them.

Deut 11:18-20
18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.
19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:

Although you may find this hard to believe, you have to let them grow and make there own decisions. You are there to help and give uplifting words.

Where does the Bible say this? Book, chapter and verse, please.

Also, it is wrong for you to be judging and daming other people to hell, that is not your place.

We're entitled to judge others.

1 Cor 6:2-4
1 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

All can and will be forgivin

God forgives murderers, rapists and pedophiles if they sincerely repent. But He will never EVER forgive someone who has spoken ill of the Holy Spirit.

Mat 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

1 Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

because our God is a forgiving God, and not a damming one.

Do you understand the meaning of the word damn?

damn
dam/
verb
1.
(in Christian belief) be condemned by God to suffer eternal punishment in hell.

Rev 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

[SoleofWA]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

-"Bring them up in nurture"




Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

As for your question about my relationship, we do not live together, we only date within our church. You made it seem as if we do not attend church at all, we are usuly on Mission, so no we don't get a lot of time with our members, but we do have a church and a fellowship group.
As for most of your questions my pastors wife is looking up the scriptures tonight, and I will defiantly show you our side.

Luke 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Matthew 7:1-5
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Romans 14:1-23
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

Matthew 7:1-2
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

[John Allen]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

*blah blah judge not blah blah*

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45137

There you go.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

My own understanding might tell me that beating my children with a rod is not the best way to ensure that they grow up to be good Christians, but I trust that God knows best.

Prov 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Yes, but as I said, He won't forgive blasphemy against the Holy Spirit; therefore God is not all-forgiving.

As for most of your questions my pastors wife is looking up the scriptures tonight, and I will defiantly show you our side.

Why can't you tell us your position?

1 Pet 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Read the Bible for yourself; become acquainted with the Scriptures.

Luke 6:37
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Matthew 7:1-5
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

An interesting commentary on these verses: The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible.

Romans 14:1-23

What has this got to do with raising children?

[arthur frayn]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

I dont see a problem here. If you keep the child in the house 'where she belongs', and keep an eye on her, you shouldnt have a problem that diligent application of the rod would not cure.

[Erin500]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

I know this thread is old, but I am VERY disappointed in all of you. The Bible never states to force your children to obey you by placing Chacity belts on them and never giving them a moments rest. .

As a parent, we should do whatever we feel is right. I don't use chastity belts on my boys but i am considering it as an option right now. If they learn to touch themselves it makes them murderers.

Right now i am strongly considering getting my two boys fitted with chastity belts.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: My daughter, and chastity belts.

I'm not sure which of your poste to respond to because they're all pretty much the same, but I'll highlight the relevant bit:

I know this thread is old, but I am VERY disappointed in all of you. The Bible never states to force your children to obey you by placing Chacity belts on them and never giving them a moments rest. The bible does say to rase your children in the ways of God, but in no way are you ever to force your beliefs on them. Although you may find this hard to believe, you have to let them grow and make there own decisions. You are there to help and give uplifting words, not to abuse and make them do what you think is best. A Chasity belt is not an option, it is child abuse, and was never once used in the Bilble as a means to stop unwanted relations. And should never be used. By forcing your children to ware these monstrosities you are hurting them more then helping them. You will push them further and further away. SHAME on all of you for thinking this is the right way to act.

My father is a pastor and I was raised up well in the faith with my four brothers and one sister, we all had the freedom to do what we wanted to do, and we chose well, because our father raised us well. When we reached the age of 15 we got to go out and chose our own church and our own fellowship. I now have a man whom I have been daiting for 3 long years, and we love each other, and have decided that the church we where attending was not right in a number of the things they beleved where true, but if we ever walked into a church that beleved some of the stuff that has been shared here on this thread we would leave no questions asked. Our children will be raised right.

Also, it is wrong for you to be judging and daming other people to hell, that is not your place. A person is not dammed to hell if they have a slip up in fath, or even if there slip up goes for years. All can and will be forgivin, because our God is a forgiving God, and not a damming one.

Why? They are already 100% sinful.

PSALM 51
5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
KJV .. look up .. context

Check this out:




God's timeline
SIN SIN SIN SIN SINSIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN conception SINSIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN birth SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN .. ..




Your timeline
SIN SIN SIN SIN + an assortment of perversions including whooopie ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? baby SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN .. ..




..er ..not looking too good so far is it? Maybe ask your priestess about this then, later.