[handmaiden]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

For your 1st paragraph, all i care is not sinning. So whats the point of reading the whole bible if i instead have a guide on paper telling me what verse to read in order to not sin? I don't think you are the one that should answer my question since you don't even post quotes from the bible.

Brothers, I have been rebuked by the young man from Quebec. That burdensome duty has now been taken out of your hands.

I care about what you guys think because most of your post are backed up with quote from the bible. The only time i don't have an argument, is when you bring a quote from Jesus or God.

Now, it seems that you are saying here that you care about the posts that are directedly backed up with quotes from the Bible and that the only time that you don't have an argument is when someone brings in a quote from Jesus or God (who are the same person, by the way).

Okay, now you either didn't understand that the Bible quotes in the posts ARE the arguments being presented to you, o are saying that you don't HAVE any arguments with the words from the Bible and are in total agreement. In that case, a simple "amen" would suffice.

Now, it may be true that I'm not quoting directly like my brethren. However, I can assure you from the bottom of my heart that I have read the Bible closely and tried to follow it with all my heart. I have read and considered it and made a sincere effort to apply it to my life. I am painfully aware of all it has to say on lust and physical desires.

Rather than quoting, I will attempt to follow in Jesus' fine example and use a parabel

The Bible is like 100 % distilled firewater. In comes in a book rather than a bottle, but you get the point.

Now that fire can BURN when it hits your throat. Many people give up at the first taste. For those who can handle the throat-stripping, eye-watering power of the drink, the after effects are a feeling of warmth in the belly. For those with the committment to drink down enough of it in its undiluted form, the warmth turns into a raging fire of power. People do become drunk on this power and are often ready to take on the world.

Now most folks like the warm glow from this liquor, but the burning in their throats is too much to take. So, they have their pastor/bartenders take a little thimbleful of the firewater and add a bunch of sweet fixings to it-- coconut milk, sugar, soft drinks, anything to disguise the burning truth of its taste.

These folks only want to get a little warm and remain politely "socially drunk".

They don't want to get so liquored up that they do something mean -- because they like to get along with people-- or dangerous-- they're not willing to risk their lives-- or illegal-- they DEFINITELY don't want to lose their socal status.

Some people can handle the burn in their throats better and can swallow small amounts of the undiluted truth. They get that fire in their belly and they want to use that feeling of power it gives them. But when it comes to using that power for the Lord, they insist on using it in a sober manner.

These people are knocking back the occasional scotch or bourbon without water and think they've figured it out. They just don't understand that they are still just
social drinkers who happen to be able to handle a stronger shot.

The Lord expects us to drink down that 100 % Truth until we are so drunk that we cannot see ANYTHING but the vision of God before us. Once we are drunk enough to see Him clearly, we are to follow that vision and do WHATEVER it tells us to do.

Mixed drink church goers will never find this vision in their bloody mary's or their marquaritas or their lemon drops or even in their rum and cokes. At least some of them will admit to being lightweights when it comes to following the Lord's Word. There are some parts of it they cannot take and they will tell you so.

Now, those take-their-scotch-neat types insist they that they are imbibing on the unwatered truth of 100% Bible Booze Word of God. They like the fire and they like the power; but even they tend to obey social restrictions when it comes to being drunk for the Lord. They will use their drunkeness to excuse some actions that put them in confrontation with society, but draw the line at carrying out many of the Lord's commands.

Your church seems like a good place to get a cosmopolitan.

Now let's have some plain talk here. You claim to have a "problem" with erections in your sleep and with masturbation.

In truth, you enjoy erections and ejaculating. If you say that you do not, every brother here will forthrightly and most correctly call you a liar.

Since you won't pick up the Bible to read -- or even take to heart the verses that have been graciously supplied here on this forum-- you may as well remove your hands from your computer keyboard. It's obviously taking value time away from your masturbation-- and go tug on your tallywacker.
(Which is kind of what you're doing here, isn't it Sweetcheeks?)

Please be sure and wash your hands afterwards before you pick up your nursery school version of the Bible that tells you all about God's love and salvation and nothing about the sacrifices involved.

I understand that there is a saying in Quebec: "Give me a quarter so I can go see the world."

Dismissively Yours,

Handmaiden

[James Dewitt]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

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How can i follow him if he didn't arrive yet? He said that when he was on earth. Its also a decision, not an obligation. So there is nothing wrong if someone don't follow him from how i understand it.

Slowdrain, Jesus was on earth he now lives in Heaven. No you are not obligated to follow His word, unless of course you want to go to Heaven.

Well, not only the word from KJV 1611, but all of you true christian in here follow that bible, you the quote you bring are from that bible i presume.

Its the only true Bible?

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.[/QUOTE]

Man, all want is to be saved. What is wrong with that? I believe i can be saved without the need to read the whole bible. I just read what i need to know in order to not sin. You try to make it be too complicated when i try to keep it simple.

Its really simple Slowdrain do the following
1 Give your heart, mind and sole to Jesus.
2 Repent your sins
3 Get your self baptized by a Baptist Pastor
4 Read, follow and live your life the way you are told to in the Holy KJV1611 Bible.
5 Quit your sinful ways like masturbating!

[Sidoain]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

Not sinning is NOT enough, you must accept Jesus and follow Him.

Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

How can i follow him if he didn't arrive yet? He said that when he was on earth. Its also a decision, not an obligation. So there is nothing wrong if someone don't follow him from how i understand it.

So you do admit that quotations from the KJV 1611 (Thus the word of God) can not be challenged? I wonder why!

Well, not only the word from KJV 1611, but all of you true christian in here follow that bible, you the quote you bring are from that bible i presume.

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.[/QUOTE]

Wait, someone cannot be of god? If he is not of god, he is of what?

Man, all want is to be saved. What is wrong with that? I believe i can be saved without the need to read the whole bible. I just read what i need to know in order to not sin. You try to make it be too complicated when i try to keep it simple.

[Dirk]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

This is not even the bible we use at church. Why do i need to focus on this one. Where does it say in the bible that the KJV 1611 is the one we should read?

Does it matter where it says that the KJV 1611 is the only right bible? It is more important to focus on what the only right bible tells us to do and how to live don't you think?

For your 1st paragraph, all i care is not sinning. So whats the point of reading the whole bible if i instead have a guide on paper telling me what verse to read in order to not sin? I don't think you are the one that should answer my question since you don't even post quotes from the bible.

Not sinning is NOT enough, you must accept Jesus and follow Him.

Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

I care about what you guys think because most of your post are backed up with quote from the bible. The only time i don't have an argument, is when you bring a quote from Jesus or God.

So you do admit that quotations from the KJV 1611 (Thus the word of God) can not be challenged? I wonder why!

John 8:47
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

[Sidoain]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

So you admit you didn't read the KJV 1611?

This is not even the bible we use at church. Why do i need to focus on this one. Where does it say in the bible that the KJV 1611 is the one we should read?

Swallow it whole or spit the thing out. You can't just nibble on the sweet parts; that's not how its written. We're not shoving it down your throat. We are just listing ALL the ingredients. Truth in advertizing.

Think for yourself about God or nothing. Why would you care what we think? All we can do is tell you what is written in the Bible. How useful has it been to you so far?

For your 1st paragraph, all i care is not sinning. So whats the point of reading the whole bible if i instead have a guide on paper telling me what verse to read in order to not sin? I don't think you are the one that should answer my question since you don't even post quotes from the bible.

I care about what you guys think because most of your post are backed up with quote from the bible. The only time i don't have an argument, is when you bring a quote from Jesus or God.

[handmaiden]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

Do you understand now? We are exhorting you to read the KLV 1611 Bible and decide for yourself how you use it. That's what people have been doing for centuries.

Use it to excuse your "sins" or use it make yourself miserable about one thing or everything.

Swallow it whole or spit the thing out. You can't just nibble on the sweet parts; that's not how its written. We're not shoving it down your throat. We are just listing ALL the ingredients. Truth in advertizing.

Think for yourself about God or nothing. Why would you care what we think? All we can do is tell you what is written in the Bible. How useful has it been to you so far?

Something Cleverly Yours,

Handmaiden

[Dirk]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

I don't completely ignore god. I just want to be saved so i try to not sin, but i still got one problem left for that part.

Then fix it! Stop complaining like the lazy person that you are!

I was lying i guess. My pastor never told us to ignore some verse from the bible, but the way i see woman preaching at my church and asking questions, it seem that the pastor do skip some part from the bible. Anyway. From what i read in this forum, my church apply none of your harsh movement. Me, my only goal is to not sin in order to go to heavens. Church is boring anyway, so 3 hours at church each Sunday and i am done for week with the bible and praying.

How is our "movement" harsh? We are not a movement, we are followers of Christ!

I trust the Christ more. I just hate reading books so i rather listen to someone else. The only time i open my bible outside of church, is when my mother or someone from church suggest me a verse to read once i find the time to do it.

So you admit you didn't read the KJV 1611?

[Phoenix]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

I don't completely ignore god. I just want to be saved so i try to not sin, but i still got one problem left for that part.

I was lying i guess. My pastor never told us to ignore some verse from the bible, but the way i see woman preaching at my church and asking questions, it seem that the pastor do skip some part from the bible. Anyway. From what i read in this forum, my church apply none of your harsh movement. Me, my only goal is to not sin in order to go to heavens. Church is boring anyway, so 3 hours at church each Sunday and i am done for week with the bible and praying.

I trust the Christ more. I just hate reading books so i rather listen to someone else. The only time i open my bible outside of church, is when my mother or someone from church suggest me a verse to read once i find the time to do it.

I have heard enough.

You ignore God. You sin. You lie, you cheat, you squirm, you are a lazy sloth. You mock God, you mock the Word, you mock the Church, you discard the Scripture, you make your own rules, and you have the audacity to call yourself a Christian. In pride, you pick and choose what parts of the Bible you desire, and instead of correcting your own faults, you seek to find fault with God. You laugh in the face of your only chance of salvation, and you feel no shame. You have heard the Gospel, and you ignore it. You have run out of excuses. If you are a Christian, I am ashamed to call my self one.

Those who are of God, hear the word of God. You do not hear the word of God, because you are not of God. You are of your father, the Devil, and your will is to do your father's lusts and desires. He has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar, and the father of lies.

Ignorant child of Satan. You are not a Christian. Each breath you take is a sin. Do not protest about this Church of the Christ. Do not protest about True Christians. It is not us you hate, but your God.

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
~ Matthew 7:6

You have already had more attention than you are worthy of, you insolent dog. To here you shall come, but no further. In my motherland, you would not be converted with sermons and rebuke, but with a clean blade.

[James Dewitt]

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1st of all, i am not the one disagreeing with the bible content. Its my protestant pastor job to ignore some words from the bible. I consider myself as a Christian. After all, i only have one problem left in order to be saved.

For your last question, go look at the facts on google. I did my part on finding why most of you Americans are fat.

I understand that you are a retard, but damn how did you get Moron and fat people confused?

[BelieverInGod]

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So you didn't say

Church is boring anyway, so 3 hours at church each Sunday and i am done for week with the bible and praying.

You have got to be one of the worst liars I have ever met in my life. My youngest son is better than you and he tends to blame everything on the dog.

[Sidoain]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

You have repeatedly said on this forum that you are counting on being able to use the old death bed repentance out so that you can spend your life sinning. Well, considering the high rates of accidental deaths for young men, I wouldn't rely on it, especially when you spend your time openly mocking God.

I am not mocking god.

So why are you here? You're obviously a Sunday only fuzzy bunny Christian that would rather only hear that Jesus was a loving hippie than to hear the truth. So go back to your church and pay your 10% to hear what a good little boy you are, no matter how you live your life.

I don't see any problem with my life style.

How can you trust in Christ? You don't know him, you don't talk to him (you said above that you don't pray) and you don't read your Bible.

I don't know my pastor more then what i know about Christ, so how can i trust him more then him? I never said that i don't pray and read the bible. I usually take the time to pray every days before sleeping and at church.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: My dreams turned me into a sinnerErection while dreaming)

I don't completely ignore god. I just want to be saved so i try to not sin, but i still got one problem left for that part.

You have repeatedly said on this forum that you are counting on being able to use the old death bed repentance out so that you can spend your life sinning. Well, considering the high rates of accidental deaths for young men, I wouldn't rely on it, especially when you spend your time openly mocking God.

I was lying i guess. My pastor never told us to ignore some verse from the bible, but the way i see woman preaching at my church and asking questions, it seem that the pastor do skip some part from the bible. Anyway. From what i read in this forum, my church apply none of your harsh movement. Me, my only goal is to not sin in order to go to heavens. Church is boring anyway, so 3 hours at church each Sunday and i am done for week with the bible and praying.

So why are you here? You're obviously a Sunday only fuzzy bunny Christian that would rather only hear that Jesus was a loving hippie than to hear the truth. So go back to your church and pay your 10% to hear what a good little boy you are, no matter how you live your life.

I trust the Christ more. I just hate reading books so i rather listen to someone else. The only time i open my bible outside of church, is when my mother or someone from church suggest me a verse to read once i find the time to do it.

How can you trust in Christ? You don't know him, you don't talk to him (you said above that you don't pray) and you don't read your Bible.

[Sidoain]

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Madam,

May I ask, do you not worry that you invoke the wrath of God by ignoring him?

I don't completely ignore god. I just want to be saved so i try to not sin, but i still got one problem left for that part.

Do you not think that, your Pastor leads you astray from the true path, by telling you to ignore God?

I was lying i guess. My pastor never told us to ignore some verse from the bible, but the way i see woman preaching at my church and asking questions, it seem that the pastor do skip some part from the bible. Anyway. From what i read in this forum, my church apply none of your harsh movement. Me, my only goal is to not sin in order to go to heavens. Church is boring anyway, so 3 hours at church each Sunday and i am done for week with the bible and praying.

Do you trust your Pastor, instead of the Christ, peace be upon him?

With respect.

I trust the Christ more. I just hate reading books so i rather listen to someone else. The only time i open my bible outside of church, is when my mother or someone from church suggest me a verse to read once i find the time to do it.

[Phoenix]

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Well, it seem by your logic, someone who forgot to read 1 page from the bible ignore god. We only take the best part of the bible to follow. We only read verse that are a must read in order to not sin. We don't care about the other details. We only care about not sinning in order to be saved. Basically, we only try to get the basics. After all, the only reason we go to church is to praise Jesus, celebrate, even signing. We even organize church sport team. What we ignore the most is what in our modern day, we consider the racism

Now, i know you guys will find this really wrong. In my church, not like yours, women can preach and talk to ask questions. Well, myself, i don't know what is the problem about allowing women to speak.

Madam,

This is a confusing reply. It does not seem that you have answered a single one of my questions. It seems you have quoted my post by mistake, when you perhaps meant to quote someone else.

If you have time, would you read my post too? There are some questions in it to you.

Thank you.

[Sidoain]

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Madam,

May I ask, do you not worry that you invoke the wrath of God by ignoring him?

Do you not think that, your Pastor leads you astray from the true path, by telling you to ignore God?

You understand, that the Scripture and the Gospel are the foundation of the Christian belief, yes? Approved, blessed, and made sacred by Jesus himself, peace be upon him; he himself said,

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
~ Matthew 5:17-19

Do you trust your Pastor, instead of the Christ, peace be upon him?

With respect.

Well, it seem by your logic, someone who forgot to read 1 page from the bible ignore god. We only take the best part of the bible to follow. We only read verse that are a must read in order to not sin. We don't care about the other details. We only care about not sinning in order to be saved. Basically, we only try to get the basics. After all, the only reason we go to church is to praise Jesus, celebrate, even signing. We even organize church sport team. What we ignore the most is what in our modern day, we consider the racism

Now, i know you guys will find this really wrong. In my church, not like yours, women can preach and talk to ask questions. Well, myself, i don't know what is the problem about allowing women to speak.