[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Pastor, ya know that is not a bad idea. I bet Brother Enoch and myself can spend a little cash, buy the three of them a little mud hut and put it all behind us. If the grand child comes out normal, we can always bring the little child back state side, that is if its a boy. Not a bad idea at all, thanks.

You know that new age crack pot Richard Branson might have the right idea, he owns a private island where he has set up a compound for his and his family's enjoyment. He keeps it fully staffed but must have an overseer. While I realize that your boy might not be ready for a position of responsibility but this might be a chance to give him a career, and a very able assistant of course. Bottom line problem resolved, the kid will be too busy with his job to visit too and you and Brother Enoch have a get away place for yourselves (seems equivalent to 50 sheckels if you ask me).
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[James Dewitt]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Have your boy move to a country where multiple wives are legal, then he can marry the girl. The Sudan comes to mind. That should solve the issue and remind him that following American secular laws is a wise practice.

Pastor, ya know that is not a bad idea. I bet Brother Enoch and myself can spend a little cash, buy the three of them a little mud hut and put it all behind us. If the grand child comes out normal, we can always bring the little child back state side, that is if its a boy. Not a bad idea at all, thanks.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Have your boy move to a country where multiple wives are legal, then he can marry the girl. The Sudan comes to mind. That should solve the issue and remind him that following American secular laws is a wise practice.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Brother James if you and Brother Enoch are both looking for an honor saving answer for now I will offer you this suggestion,
Declare a state of war between yourselves, retroactive to last month of course.
Then the bible will give you the answer with a few possible sacrifices made for the families.
Deuteronomy 21:10-14


10When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, 11And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.


Any other plans could be considered war reparations of course the child will have to be absorbed into your ''tribe'' but that is an issue for a much later date.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Thank you dear Sister Phebe, you know it is times like this that I miss the comfort of a loving wife. I am happy that you do not shame me for my idiot sons actions. You are the model of a True Christian. May the good Lord bless you. YIC James

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

I am surly lost, what can I do to correct the problem. If Brother Enoch kills the idiot son of mine, I am still left with a bastard grand child. If I go see my son at this point, things are not going to go in his favor. I hope that I will be able to show my face in Church in the morning.

It's a difficult problem, Brother James.

Here's what we need to keep in mind:

"A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." Deuteronomy 23:2 - KJV

While I am concerned with the welfare of the child, as I have witnessed here, scripture tells us that the bastard child cannot find our Lord. I truly wish it was otherwise. But it's not up to me.

Brother Enoch needs to remember the Ten Commandments:

"Thou shalt not kill." Exodus 20:13 - KJV

Should he fail God's commandments:

"And if he smite him with an instrument of iron, so that he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death." Numbers 35:16 - KJV

Keep my signature in mind and you will be fine in the pews tomorrow morning.


Bless you in Christ.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

I am surly lost, what can I do to correct the problem. If Brother Enoch kills the idiot son of mine, I am still left with a bastard grand child. If I go see my son at this point, things are not going to go in his favor. I hope that I will be able to show my face in Church in the morning.

Oh Brother James,

One must take heed and perhaps understand he made an honest mistake. Do these two sisters look a lot alike? I know some of the gals I counsel, some are sisters and gosh, the younger ones sometimes look so much like the elder gals and when it comes down to it, two years is not much.

How do we know it was not the girl to blame? Perhaps SHE as a harlot had designs on your son and all else were completely unawares and she fooled him!

Stranger things have happened is all I am saying.

Regardless though, you are not to blame at all as just as your son cannot be blames for the sins of the father, you in turn cannot be blamed for the sins of the son.

YIC,

Sister Phebe.

[Brother Barnabus]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

I used to know scripture for this very situation ... however advanced age
(read senility) has hidden it from me for now. Please delay any plans of smiting the boy til I can remember which bathroom I left my Bible!

Where's that heathen Dogbone Alkybitch when we need her?

[Lisa H]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

I am surly lost, what can I do to correct the problem. If Brother Enoch kills the idiot son of mine, I am still left with a bastard grand child. If I go see my son at this point, things are not going to go in his favor. I hope that I will be able to show my face in Church in the morning.

Brother James,

You are in a difficult position. I will pray to the Lord to bring you a answer.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

James, I think we have a problem here. I don't think your son was being truthful with you when he said he didn't know what to do. It turns out there is indeed a grandbaby on the way. But it's not with my daughter, his 15 year old wife, it's with my daughter his 13 year old not-wife. She's 6 weeks pregnant.

I was on my way to kill him, when my eskimo wife stopped me. Apparently this isn't a problem for eskimos. She calmed me down a bit, telling me this sort of thing is Biblically acceptable. I'm not sure she's right, but I'm going through the Bible now to find out if God condones this sort of thing. It usually takes me about 4 days to read the entire Bible, so your boy has at least that long.

Does anyone else here know if my wife is right on this one?

Brother Enoch,

I cannot show you any direct bible passage that states Mary's age, but from research done, it has been shown that Mary was between the ages of 12-15 when she was impregnated and bore Jesus himself!

I do have to go by the almah vs bethula references in the more ancient texts as to this though as foretold by Isaiah in his prophesy as to Jesus.

If anyone would like me to elaborate, I am more than happy to, but God's Word IS His Word and I would not change one dot nor dash for anything, no matter what language it is written in.

YIC,

Sister Phebe.

Gosh, if God can impregnate a gal of that age it MUST be ok for a mere human too.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

I am surly lost, what can I do to correct the problem. If Brother Enoch kills the idiot son of mine, I am still left with a bastard grand child. If I go see my son at this point, things are not going to go in his favor. I hope that I will be able to show my face in Church in the morning.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Brother Enoch, The kids have been married for the best part of 6 weeks, whats the hold up? We are not getting any younger. It is the girl or is it my idiot son, the boy gets distracted easy.

Brother James,

Remember, that the Lord moves in mysterious ways and at his own pace, not ours. All you have to do is think about Elizabeth as an example. God granted her a child, a son no less and he be John!!, despite her being barren. Remember too, Mary, without even having to endure sexural intercouse delivered to the World, The Lord Jesus Christ Himself!!

As to Elizabeth, Luke 1:1-80 tells the story. to save God's bandwidth though, I will just post a few verses.

Luke 1:6-17

THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were now well stricken in years.

And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course,

According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.

And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.

And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.

And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.

But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

So, if anyone is to blame it would be the girl. I am quite sure that a son from your loins would not be at fault here. Perhaps the girl just has to increase her faith in The Lord Jesus Christ and pray with all her heart and soul, especially if she wants a son as a result.

I know you and Brother Enoch are well deserving of grandchildren and rightly so. As such, I suggest you harass the girl at any given opportunity to submit fully to God.

I do hope that helped ease your and also Brother Enoch's mind a little.

YIC,

Sister Phebe.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Your boy is in big trouble. No marrying or sexual intercourse with the sister of a wife unless the other is dead.

Leviticus 18:18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.

Brother Levi what about -

Genesis 29:16-30 (King James Version)


16And Laban had two daughters: the name of the elder was Leah, and the name of the younger was Rachel.
17Leah was tender eyed; but Rachel was beautiful and well favoured.
18And Jacob loved Rachel; and said, I will serve thee seven years for Rachel thy younger daughter.
19And Laban said, It is better that I give her to thee, than that I should give her to another man: abide with me.
20And Jacob served seven years for Rachel; and they seemed unto him but a few days, for the love he had to her.
21And Jacob said unto Laban, Give me my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in unto her.
22And Laban gathered together all the men of the place, and made a feast.
23And it came to pass in the evening, that he took Leah his daughter, and brought her to him; and he went in unto her.
24And Laban gave unto his daughter Leah Zilpah his maid for an handmaid.
25And it came to pass, that in the morning, behold, it was Leah: and he said to Laban, What is this thou hast done unto me? did not I serve with thee for Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me?
26And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn.
27Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
28And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.
30And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

Pastors we need guidance.

Your boy is in big trouble. No marrying or sexual intercourse with the sister of a wife unless the other is dead.

Leviticus 18:18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Where are our Grandchildren?

=Brother Enoch;556047]

James, I think we have a problem here. I don't think your son was being truthful with you when he said he didn't know what to do. It turns out there is indeed a grandbaby on the way. But it's not with my daughter, his 15 year old wife, it's with my daughter his 13 year old not-wife. She's 6 weeks pregnant.

I had a feeling the idiot was lying to me, no 16 year old boy can be that damn dumb.

I was on my way to kill him, when my eskimo wife stopped me. Apparently this isn't a problem for eskimos. She calmed me down a bit, telling me this sort of thing is Biblically acceptable. I'm not sure she's right, but I'm going through the Bible now to find out if God condones this sort of thing. It usually takes me about 4 days to read the entire Bible, so your boy has at least that long.

Thank you for not killing him, I am not sure if I would have had the same restraint. I have to tell you brother if things do not work out his way, he has no one to blame but himself. If he committed an egregious sin he must pay the price. If you kill him or Jesus kills him the end result is the same.

Does anyone else here know if my wife is right on this one?

I am not sure if this is an answer or not.
Judges 19:24-25



Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing.
But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.


Here is another problem, was she a virgin and did the idiot rape her?
Deuteronomy 22:28-29



If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.


And then we have the bastard problem.
Deuteronomy 23:2



A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.




Pastors we need guidance.