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Have you read the thread? The points you raise were answered in this single post as recently as August.
“just like that?”
Leprosy is also a disease.
Just like that! Uzziah did not have to go and burn incense. God is very particular about incense, who burns it, when and how. God does not wish to see harm befall those whom He loves. You might like to compare this passage:
NUMBERS 16
23-25 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram. And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.
26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.
27-30 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out, and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children. And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind. If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; then the LORD hath not sent me. But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.
31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them:
32-33 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
34-35 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.
41a But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured..
KJV . look up .. context
God does not wish those whom He loves to be crushed and incinerated and smitten with plague. You seem to be saying that it'd be an injustice or worse for such consequences to be dished out to groups you've decided are "innocent" (regardless of what God teaches us — teaches us because our own understanding would lead us into error) and that it's wrong to exclude them from the congregation. The fact that God tells us explicitly which groups are to be excluded means nothing to you. As a result, you declare His Inerrant Word to be "unfair" in a direct contradiction of The Holy Spirit.
That is why we follow The Bible. We don't just make stuff up because it fits in with the secularist agenda or because some witch used "inclusive" language when selling her crystals. The Bible explains:
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“just like that?”
Leprosy is also a disease.
II CHRONICLES 26
3 Sixteen years old was Uzziah when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and two years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Jecoliah of Jerusalem..
16 But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.
17-18 And Azariah the priest went in after him, and with him fourscore priests of the LORD, that were valiant men: And they withstood Uzziah the king, and said unto him, It appertaineth not unto thee, Uzziah, to burn incense unto the LORD, but to the priests the sons of Aaron, that are consecrated to burn incense: go out of the sanctuary; for thou hast trespassed; neither shall it be for thine honour from the LORD God.
19-20 Then Uzziah was wroth, and had a censer in his hand to burn incense: and while he was wroth with the priests, the leprosy even rose up in his forehead before the priests in the house of the LORD, from beside the incense altar. And Azariah the chief priest, and all the priests, looked upon him, and, behold, he was leprous in his forehead, and they thrust him out from thence; yea, himself hasted also to go out, because the LORD had smitten him.
KJV . look up .. context
3 Sixteen years old was Uzziah when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and two years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Jecoliah of Jerusalem..
16 But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.
17-18 And Azariah the priest went in after him, and with him fourscore priests of the LORD, that were valiant men: And they withstood Uzziah the king, and said unto him, It appertaineth not unto thee, Uzziah, to burn incense unto the LORD, but to the priests the sons of Aaron, that are consecrated to burn incense: go out of the sanctuary; for thou hast trespassed; neither shall it be for thine honour from the LORD God.
19-20 Then Uzziah was wroth, and had a censer in his hand to burn incense: and while he was wroth with the priests, the leprosy even rose up in his forehead before the priests in the house of the LORD, from beside the incense altar. And Azariah the chief priest, and all the priests, looked upon him, and, behold, he was leprous in his forehead, and they thrust him out from thence; yea, himself hasted also to go out, because the LORD had smitten him.
KJV . look up .. context
Just like that! Uzziah did not have to go and burn incense. God is very particular about incense, who burns it, when and how. God does not wish to see harm befall those whom He loves. You might like to compare this passage:
Korah, Dathan and Abiram had been chimping out because they hated God. Therefore their little children also hated God (and obviously their wives hated God) but how could a little child be culpable? you probably think, so let's see what God actually did. The wretches started burning incense..
NUMBERS 16
23-25 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram. And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.
26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.
27-30 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out, and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children. And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind. If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; then the LORD hath not sent me. But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.
31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them:
32-33 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
34-35 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.
If you check out the context link you'll notice that in addition to crushing by rock closing upon them alive and conflagration by fire coming out from The Lord it was necessary for God to kill an additional 14,700 by instant plague. Instant in this case means the next day which I doubt you'll deny is a pretty fast acting plague.
41a But on the morrow all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured..
KJV . look up .. context
The poor things can't help it, I mean, did they ask to be born that way?
God does not wish those whom He loves to be crushed and incinerated and smitten with plague. You seem to be saying that it'd be an injustice or worse for such consequences to be dished out to groups you've decided are "innocent" (regardless of what God teaches us — teaches us because our own understanding would lead us into error) and that it's wrong to exclude them from the congregation. The fact that God tells us explicitly which groups are to be excluded means nothing to you. As a result, you declare His Inerrant Word to be "unfair" in a direct contradiction of The Holy Spirit.
DEUTERONOMY 32
3b ..ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
KJV
3b ..ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
KJV
That is why we follow The Bible. We don't just make stuff up because it fits in with the secularist agenda or because some witch used "inclusive" language when selling her crystals. The Bible explains:
PROVERBS 3
3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:
4 So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
KJV
3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:
4 So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
KJV
..so we don't.
Praise Jesus!
Praise Jesus!
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