Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

[Simon Marshall]

I hear a lot of Christians say that eternal punishment from God is likened to a parent who needs to slap their child's hand. The child does wrong, so God has to punish them by putting them into hell eternally.

I was thinking that if my child disobeys me, would it be alright for me to drown him and his pets like God did to the entire world? Does that sound reasonable to kill everything and everyone I supposedly love for disobedience?

Maybe I could slowly burn off all my child's appendages in the most torturous way possible to show him how much I love him for eating too much candy after I told him not.

What say thee, my fellow xians?

[Matthew Hopkins]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Where, chapter and verse, does it say to burn or drown a child for disobedience in the Holy Bible?

What is an xian? How old are you, Simone?

YBIC

[John North]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

I hear a lot of Christians say that eternal punishment from God is likened to a parent who needs to slap their child's hand. The child does wrong, so God has to punish them by putting them into hell eternally.

I was thinking that if my child disobeys me, would it be alright for me to drown him and his pets like God did to the entire world? Does that sound reasonable to kill everything and everyone I supposedly love for disobedience?

Maybe I could slowly burn off all my child's appendages in the most torturous way possible to show him how much I love him for eating too much candy after I told him not.

What say thee, my fellow xians?

First of all, we're obliged to follow secular laws (1 Peter 2:13-17, Romans 13:1-7). Now what does the law say about putting your child on fire?

Secondly, in what way has your son been disobedient? You’re talking about eating too much candy after YOU told him not to. So if you told him NOT to NOT have anal sex, you would like to burn him when NOT having it? Now listen up friend, the Bible (KJV 1611) sets the rules since it contains the word of God, not you and your twisted mind. Please read it…

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[James Hutchins]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Welcome Simon. While drowning children might seem counterproductive to the layman, I can see the value. As you mentioned, there are many instances in the Bible where God used water to test and cleanse us.
Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Of course, Genesis is filled with valid explanations for the fruitfullness of drownings.

Then we have Exodus (The Pharohs troops, wihile not children, certainly behaved like them):
Exodus 14:26-28
26 And the Lord said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand over the sea, that the waters may come again upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots, and upon their horsemen.
27 And Moses stretched forth his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to his strength when the morning appeared; and the Egyptians fled against it; and the Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea.
28 And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them.

I personally find a burlap bag placed over a childs head and a slow, constant flow of water works wonders.

[Simon Marshall]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Where, chapter and verse, does it say to burn or drown a child for disobedience in the Holy Bible?

God drowned his children and he burns them for not obeying him. I thought maybe it would be okay if I do too. That's the excuse xians always give their god as to why he punishes them eternally for finite crimes.

The bible does specifically mention stoning a rebellious child in one grouping of verses in Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

There is also

Exodus 21:17 He who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.



Also Leviticus 20:9

What is an xian? How old are you, Simone?

YBIC

"x" is an abbreviation for Christ. Instead of typing out Christian, I use xian.

I am 34.

[Simon Marshall]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Now what does the law say about putting your child on fire?

It says that humans should light daughters on fire for "playing the whore" in the house of her priestly father. Leviticus 21:9

Judah says Tamar should be burnt to death for having sex with him. Genesis 38:24

Secondly, in what way has your son been disobedient? You’re talking about eating too much candy after YOU told him not to.

Does it really matter? I told him not to eat it and he rebelled against my wishes. God burns people for so much as looking at a woman with lust in your heart.

The apology for this is always that god does it out of love like a parent does for a child. I thought I might show how much I love my child by burning him slowly, if it were allowed. Do you think that's a good idea?

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Name: Simon
Church: none
Favorite bible verse: I guess the one about burning children to death.
I didn't know Jesus was missing.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Name: Simon
Church: none
Favorite bible verse: I guess the one about burning children to death.
I didn't know Jesus was missing.

So what are you, a joo? Why are you here? This is a Christian forum.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Well said, Brother Zeke.

Dear Friends,

I feel I must reiterate, in the strongest possible terms, that True Christians(tm) obey all secular laws. This site does not promote, incite, condone, or allow any illegal activity. Violators of this policy will be disciplined, up to and very quickly including being banned from this site.

Yours in Him,
bab

[James Hutchins]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

So what are you, a joo? Why are you here? This is a Christian forum.

Probably is, but I have hopes of him tossing away his childish things and facing life like a man who loves Jesus.

[Simon Marshall]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

So what are you, a joo? Why are you here?

No, I'm not Jewish and that's racist calling them joos.

I feel I must reiterate, in the strongest possible terms, that True Christians™ obey all secular laws. This site does not promote, incite, condone, or allow any illegal activity.

I said, "If it was allowed."

Probably is, but I have hopes of him tossing away his childish things and facing life like a man who loves Jesus.

Isn't that what I'm trying to do by actually reading the Bible and asking questions on its applications?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Friemd either you live by the Bible or you treat it like one of your sadistic 'Harry Potter' books. Very simple.

[Matthew Hopkins]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

and that's racist calling us joos.

Son, you need to take a deep breath. You come onto this Christian forum, confess to being a Christ killing joo, then call Pastor Zeke a racist?

You, sir, are a bigot. Your kind aren't welcome around here. Go on now, git!

YBIC

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

I hear a lot of Christians say that eternal punishment from God is likened to a parent who needs to slap their child's hand. The child does wrong, so God has to punish them by putting them into hell eternally.

I was thinking that if my child disobeys me, would it be alright for me to drown him and his pets like God did to the entire world? Does that sound reasonable to kill everything and everyone I supposedly love for disobedience?

Maybe I could slowly burn off all my child's appendages in the most torturous way possible to show him how much I love him for eating too much candy after I told him not.

What say thee, my fellow xians?

Hello and welcome to our friendly forum!

Yours is a good and reasonable reading of the Holy Scriptures. The LORD commands us to teach our children obedience.

Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:20

Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Deuteronomy 5:16

This isn't for our convenience, but for the Salvation of our children. We know because it is written, God will not offer our children Salvation if they do not love Him to the exclusion of every other thing.

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:15

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 12:2

Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
James 4:4

Obedience unto a parent is how a child learns obedience unto the LORD, thus offering the only means of Salvation. Mr. Marshall, I would remind you that in our current culture, it is illegal for you to bring permanent physical harm to your child. Burning his legs and arms would be considered permanent harm, even if it does cure him of unbelief and disobedience. However, euthanasia of pets can be considered acceptable and appropriate when explained right, that is, if anyone questions such a thing anyway. A child's toys are mere worldly treasures and the sooner a child knows to not store them up, the sooner the child knows the benefit of storing his treasures in Heaven (Matthew 6:19-20).

You might find more ideas in this thread about Godly discipline.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

I moved this thread to Christian parenting. If you persist on disrespectfully using "xian", I will have to whoop you.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Drowning or burning my child for disobedience?

Dear Friend,

I said, "If it was allowed."

It is not allowed. No state in the United States would allow a parent to drown or burn a child for disobedience.

If you intend to suggest a counterfactual, please note "when we change the laws..." and then go for it.

You seem like an OK sort but we have many weak-minded fools on here who can't follow even basic Christian conversations. I'm sure you don't want to mislead them.

Yours in Him,
BAB