Godly Parenting: Tomato Staking for Beginners

[Mary Etheldreda]

"Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law
Psalms 94:12

Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:20

Spank For Salvation


A Michael Pearl Approved Tool of Child Discipline

Friends, with so many new brides here, and others looking to start new families, I thought I'd offer my experiences as a successful mother of many obedient and properly submissive children. None of my children have ever embarrassed me or Mr. Etheldreda and each one is a shining example of what it means to be a Good and Godly American child.

The image of "Tomato Staking" comes from a book that, although is liberal in perspective, can still offer a decent stepping stone from which a True Christian™ wife and mother will want to raise her family (Raising Godly Tomatoes). Tomatoes that are staked in the ground cannot wander off and get into trouble and that is precisely what we want to avoid - children getting into trouble.

There are many reasons to avoid trouble, but they ultimately come down to one thing: Eternal Destiny.

Where do you want your children to spend eternity?

You know of course that the LORD has placed a price on your child's sin that your child can never pay except by death. (Romans 6:23) You also know the loophole the Loving God has provided is faith in Christ Jesus. (John 3:18) For this reason, teaching a child to be obedient to the parent is the only way to teach him to be sufficiently obedient unto the LORD.

Let's talk about the role of Authority.
(Acts 5:29)

God is, of course, in authority of everything in creation:

Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come
Ephesians 1:21

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:18

And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power
Colossians 2:10

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds
Hebrews 1:2

Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
1 Peter 3:22

It is no less fitting that we mothers embrace our submissive roles under the God-given authority of our husbands.

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Genesis 3:16

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1 Corinthians 11:3

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1st Timothy 2:12

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Ephesians 5:22-24

Having thus established the support for a Godly home, we can now open discussion on teaching a child due submissiveness.

Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:20

Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Deuteronomy 5:16

Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Ephesians 6:1

My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother
Proverbs 6:20

There is a reason our Heavenly Father demands our obedience. He knows that sin has corrupted the world and that our human minds are too finite to comprehend perfect justice. It would be like trying to explain to your dog how the car engine works. The dog will never comprehend it, but he knows he can trust you to get him from place to place safely when his face is flapping in the 70mph wind, enjoying the experience.

Our responsibility as True Christian™ parents is to teach our children the real meaning of life. (Ecclesiastes 12:13) Their true rights and earthly desires ought not be confused. They have one right and one right only - to be taught the saving message of the Gospel. Everything else is temporary (even if it lasts 93 years).

They must learn the importance of avoiding worldly lies. for God will not offer them Salvation if they do not love Him to the exclusion of every other thing.

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1 John 2:15

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 12:2

Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
James 4:4

Children must be taught to live for Heaven, for it does not come naturally to want this.

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Colossians 3:1-2

For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ
Philippians 3:20

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew 25:46

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:15

The Importance of Obedience

These Injuries Will Heal











These Injuries Will Never Heal

In my next post I'll share what to do to raise a child to be safe from the wicked temptations of the world, and the lies of the Enemy.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners: How it Works

In my last post, I talked about the importance of raising Godly Tomatoes, er, children. In this post I'll explain how a True Christian™ parent makes it work.

First is important that as beautiful as our little children may seem to us, how sweet the smell of a newborn babe snuggled up close, we must never forget it was born in rebellion against the LORD.

And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake;
for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
Genesis 8:21

Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.
Job 14:4

What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Job 15:14

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Psalm 51:5

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Psalm 58:3

What "Tomato Staking" Means

Take a look at this image of a few tomato plants:



Notice how neat and orderly the plants are. Notice how easily the gardener can get from one plant to another.

Now notice this abandoned garden.



How can the gardener find anything she needs here? How can she make anything work for her?

Plants can grow to be enormous and when left unattended, can be dangerous. This one has overtaken the house.



And this one has caused damage to the neighbor's property.



No parent wants their sweet child to grow up to be destructive and overwhelming. You know what they say, Little Monsters with little bad habits become Big Monsters with big bad habits. Don't let your child become a Big Monster. Be a good gardener to your child, just as the LORD is to you (Isaiah 58:11) and stake that plant!


Temper Tantrums
Temper tantrums are not okay. They are nothing more than giving into one's sinful nature, demanding the opportunity to rebel against authority. (Jeremiah 28:16)

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,
she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Genesis 3:6

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
James 1:14-15

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Romans 5:12

And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Ephesians 2:1-3

Are you starting to understand the importance discipline has for the True Christian™ family? The True Christian™ knows her child is attracted to evil ways from the very beginning. It is a born sinner and until it can conceive of God's Will and accept Jesus as its personal LORD and Master (Romans 10:9), it has no hope of escaping the very pits of Hell created as a Just and Righteous consequence for its evil rebellion against the LORD.

Don't let their big doe-like eyes fool you. These little humans are nothing but sinning machines.

Sinner


Sinners


Sinner


Sinner


Don't let the newborn baby smell fool you, this one is born to sin


God already got the jump on punishing this evil thing because its sins will no doubt be bold and terrible

A devout True Christian™ won't see the big eyes, the clear skin, the sweet lips. A devout True Christian™ parent will see an evil rebel who must be corrected lest it never cares to know God at all.

Little monsters grow up to become big monsters.

Little temper tantrums grow up to become big temper tantrums. We see this every day in behaviors like swearing, road rage, homicide, animal abuse, homosexuality, atheism, voting for Obama (Proverbs 25:28). There's no excuse for it. These are all faults of the parent for not taking control of the child!

TAKE CONTROL!!

It doesn't matter how. Yelling, shaking, striking, spanking, hours spent in a small and uncomfortable prayer closet spending time only with the LORD, shaming, and ridiculing are all appropriate and effective tools for the parent. Like the gardener that controls that tomato plant, control your children! Keep them close to you (no more than three feet until they are at least 12 years old and can be trusted). Remind them often of your authority. Frequently tell them No so they are never surprised to hear that from you. Do not allow crying. Do not allow sullen attitudes. Remind them frequently that they are weak and vulnerable and if it weren't for your benevolence, they would be hungry and cold and in constant danger out there in the vast, dangerous world. Do not loose hope! Jesus is rooting for you!

The LORD has provided you a perfect Guide Book - the Holy Bible (King James Version, 1611). In it you will find tried and true facts such as:

He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Proverbs 13:24

Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
Proverbs 19:18

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him
Proverbs 22:15

Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Proverbs 23:13-14

The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.
Proverbs 20:30

First Time Obedience

In the Etheldreda home, we demand First Time Obedience of our children. Just like it sounds, it means that the first time Mr. Etheldreda or I give a command or make a request of a child, they are expected to comply quickly, efficiently, and with a good attitude. If they fail, they will be disciplined thoroughly physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. We believe in caring for the Whole Child.

We know this to be scripturally sound.

Among other things, First Time Obedience:

• Shows parent’s obedience to the LORD (Joshua 24:15)
• Teaches children to obey the LORD (Deuteronomy 11:19)
• Keeps home and country organized and free from God's Holy and Perfect Wrath (Numbers 21:5-6)
• Raises the child in a healthy fear of the LORD allowing them to avoid embracing homosexuality and atheism (Proverbs 1:7)
• Trains child to have good subservient attitude (Ecclesiastes 12:13)

If it's not considered "abuse" for God to remind us He has the right and authority to punish us for our disobedience, and it isn't "abuse" for a parent to do the same thing for the sake of the child's immortal soul. So rest assured, you'll be doing your child a favor. A controlled home is a happy home.

The difference:

This Is Abuse:


(teaching false religion and getting ready for private smooching later)


This is not:


(child being baptized in the icy waters of Russia)

[Whip of Japheth]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

There is no foolishness that a rod of olive tree in a firm hand could not treat. The best place is in the back ( Proverbs 26:3 )

[Lutheran Born/Hell Bound]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

So Mary do you have kids?
Do you beat them?
Where do you hit them?
Do you do it in public?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

So Mary do you have kids?
Do you beat them?
Where do you hit them?
Do you do it in public?

Yes, no, where appropriate, when necessary.

Discipline is not "beating," Mr. Born. Beating denotes physical abuse. A Godly correction is not abuse. Neglecting said Godly correction is abuse because it encourages the child to attend to their sinful nature rather than God's will. Because that consequence will end up with the child in the throws of Satan for eternity, it is only loving to correct that impish, sinful instinct of disobedience.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

So Mary do you have kids?
Do you beat them?
Where do you hit them?
Do you do it in public?

Am I detecting a certain amount of objection to the idea of beating children?

What's your spiritual objection to it? Where does that come from? It certainly doesn't come from scriptures or Christian tradition. It's like you made up your own values based on a sense of fairness and mercy.

Children are great manipulators of the spiritually weak. If we didn't have the Bible to keep us strong I'm sure we'd give in from time to time (if not all the time) to the child's favourite theory that they don't need a spank. We'd be wasting time reasoning and negotiating instead of getting on with life and ignoring their pathetic snivelling.

God has reasons for repeatedly telling us to whack children. It's not clear what they are, but I'm not comfortable with ignoring Him because some cherry picking secularists get their panties in a wad over notions of brutality.

[Lutheran Born/Hell Bound]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

ok here's a scenario
A Drunk comes home kids say they wish they didn't drink guy gets pissed off punches kid or hits them with a pipe

A Baptist comes home kids say something like I wish I could play video games or ask about why you won't let them and so you get mad and punch them or beat them with a pipe

where is the difference both parents beat there kids is the only difference that you are doing it as a act of god

I was spanked as a child that is the only form of any harm that should be put on a child and should only be used as a last resort.
And the problem i have with this is that this kids can not defend themselves i would love to see one of you people try to hit me for being atheist. Have fun with either being in jail for assault and battery charges or have fun recovering from the hospital after I make you bite the curb.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

ok here's a scenario
A Drunk comes home kids say they wish they didn't drink guy gets pissed off punches kid or hits them with a pipe

A Baptist comes home kids say something like I wish I could play video games or ask about why you won't let them and so you get mad and punch them or beat them with a pipe

where is the difference both parents beat there kids is the only difference that you are doing it as a act of god

The difference is that the drunk is responding to fits of his own emotions, whereas the True Christian™ is shaping the child's character for the sake of their Salvation.

I was spanked as a child that is the only form of any harm that should be put on a child and should only be used as a last resort.

Clearly it was only for the sake of your parents' trying to keep you from being annoying. It didn't work.

If they had understood about Tomato Staking, you wouldn't be arguing with me right now, but raising your own Godly Garden with a lovely True Christian™ wife.

And the problem i have with this is that this kids can not defend themselves i would love to see one of you people try to hit me for being atheist. Have fun with either being in jail for assault and battery charges or have fun recovering from the hospital after I make you bite the curb.

This is a peaceful forum, son. You will conduct yourself properly.

[Lutheran Born/Hell Bound]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

Ok Mary since you can only give me infractions and no answers I'll just give you some time to figure out how to respond to a question like this and wait a minute your a woman right?
So aren't you supposed to be quiet and let a man talk to me?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

Ok Mary since you can only give me infractions and no answers I'll just give you some time to figure out how to respond to a question like this and wait a minute your a woman right?
So aren't you supposed to be quiet and let a man talk to me?

No, you're mistaken, dear. I would never presume to preach from the pulpit. However, I will offer my Spirit-Led advice regarding raising Godly children. I love children too much to watch them be fed lies. I will never apologize for being a True Christian™ and doing the very will of the LORD. Never!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

And now we have the internet tough guy.

Why would anyone want to get physical with you because you're an atheist? You're totally free to ignore all our good advice and burn forever in God's love.

Our children are our responsibility, however, so beating the gay out of them or the heretic out of them is our duty. God says we should discipline our children with the rod and they will not die. Sounds like good old common sense to me!

So why do you think you're smarter than God? I can understand the atheist position because they maintain the Bible, and therefore God, were just made up by a bunch of semi-literate desert savages but you are claiming Christianity, no?

Edit: it's so confusing keeping track of the trolls lying about their religion on here. I forgot you are unbelieving scum. Sorry.

[Lutheran Born/Hell Bound]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

no im no lost I have stated many times I USED TO BE LUTHERAN but now I have changed my views and am an Atheist well why would anyone want to get physical with me? Don't you beat the wronibg out of people who disagree all I'm saying is if one of you tried to blast me with a squirt gun to baptize me or hit me for being an Atheist stuff would go down.

In a violent person well if you would look at my introduction thread you would see I was being non threatening. And one of your members out of nowhere told me he was going to stab me in the eye that sounds like a threat to me.

I could imagine your kids hate you when you beat your kids or anyone for that matter I couldn't imagine that they would like it or say well they are just derecting me on the right path.

And if it's ok to do this since they will reheal you could cut their arm of for after all they could just get a fake one and reheal right

I think the passage that you use as an excuse is more of discipline not literally beat them.

But then again I don't know cause I'm atheist.

I would actually rather meet you in public in a debate event with all sorts of people to reveal how funny yall can be.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

You find the Word of God "funny?"

Enjoy hell, maggot.

[Lutheran Born/Hell Bound]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

No nothing funny about God just you guys.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Tomato Staking for Beginners

No nothing funny about God just you guys.

Dear Godmocking Whore;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and spreading your legs for anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel