You may be a fan of asserting claims without a shred of evidence, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, but we are not impressed by your silly assertions. True Christians(tm) are nothing if not consistent with the Truth (2 Corinthians 13:8).
Goth is a deplorable type of heathen culture that glorifies everything that is vile and unholy. The dictionary defines "Goth" as: A crude uncouth ill-bred person lacking culture or refinement. This pretty much sums up the Goth culture today. Goth glorifies things that are sick, nasty, improper, freakish, and downright demonic...
The Goth culture includes Emos/ punks/ Wiccan witches/ self-abusers/ thrashers/ grungers/ heavy metallers, et cetera. This includes the Marilyn Manson, AC/DC, Smashing Pumpkins, Van Halen and Ozzy Osbourne crowd as well.
Goth causes teenage girls to become whores, depresses kids to the point of cutting themselves, and turns otherwise normal kids into Columbine shooters. The Goth culture is obsessed with death and the darker side of life, which is clearly evidenced in Goth music. Goth is of the Devil.
Goth in itself is a mental illness, a sickness of the soul, mainly affecting teenagers in the same way as schizophrenia would, although to a greater extent. Its symptoms range from isolation and negativity to aggression and hate for humanity, depression, violent outbursts, low self esteem, self-loathing, self-harming and suicide. Many Goths turn to a life of crime to feed their addiction to drugs, sadism, violence and perversion.
There is a theme running through all these different types of gothic groups, and a common fashion and dress that all tribes of Goth wear. The clothing is usually dark and sinister looking, sometimes called the 'gothic uniform.' Goth women often wear black lip stick and paint their eyes so dark with mascara that they look like vampires. Goths are all obsessed with death and despair, with terror and violence, and most Goths use drugs as a form of everyday life. Some abuse their children, perform Satanic rituals, and drink human blood...
The Dangers of Rock Music
...Rock music attacks the nervous system, affecting one's emotional state. Is it any wonder why Americans, now more than ever before, are blowing-up in anger, flying off the handle, committing suicide, and losing their minds?
Goth is particularly dangerous because the lyrics to the music often glamorize killing, brutality, sadism, masochism, pedophilia, torture, freakism, and all sorts of heathendom. The music is often characterized by relentless yelling and screaming, freakish embellishments of the voice, evil sounding backgrounds, etc. There just a bunch of sickos. Magician, Criss Angel, has made millions of dollars with his "Mind Freak" series, and he definitely fits in well with the Goth freak culture. Criss Angel's theme song is characterized by his own voice screaming "mind freak" repeatedly at the top of his lungs. This is Satanic. We read in the Bible in Philippians 2:5, "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus." God doesn't want us to walk around singing "mind freak" (which a person cannot help but hear repeatedly in their memory after watching one of Criss Angel's shows). Satan is the freak of freaks. Jesus called Satan the father of all liars (John 8:44).
It is not difficult to let Lucifer into your home (1st Peter 5:8). The Apostle Paul prophesied in 2nd Timothy 3:6 of the future time when lustful men would creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lust. From the witchcraft of Sabrina, to the lewdness of Hugh Hefner; from the whores of Desperate Housewives, to the demonic New Age indoctrination of Oprah Winfrey; from the homosexuality of The Ellen DeGeneres Show, to the lasciviousness of nearly every prime time TV program―Americans have opened the door wide for Satan to creep right into our homes...
GOTH PORN, GOTH UPSKIRT, SUICIDEGIRLS, SUICIDE GIRLS, SUICIDE CHICKS, EMO PORN, NUDE NAKED GOTH ORGY VIDEO EMMA WATSON GOTH
That definition reffers to the Germanic tribes of the dark ages and not the modern subculture. The dictionary also defines Goth as a genre of rock music and a fan or performer of Goth. This is the modern definiton that applies to Goths today. Goths are fans of Goth Rock. Like Bauhaus, The Cure, Southern Deault Cult, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Specimen, Angels of Liberty, The Drowning Season, Faith and the Muse, and Solemn Novena. The bands you have mentioned; Marilyn Manson, AC/DC, Smashing Pumpkins, Van Halen and OZzy Osbourne are not Goth bands, Nor does Goth culture include Emos, Thrashers, Grungers or Heavy Metal. It's possible for someone to like more than one genre of music, but all of those things are other genres of music/fans of other genres of music.
Goth doe snot cause teenagers to be whores. Goth doesn't do anything expect provide a place for people to listen to Goth Rock, dance to it, and see bands. It does not depress people and most Goths do not cut themselves. This is a misconception. The Columbine shooters were also not Goths. This was a misportrayal by the media. There is no evidence that any school shooting or attack involved real Goths. Liking a genre of music is not a mental illness and it doesn't make you violent or suicidal. We don't use drugs either or abuse our children. Only vampires drink blood and only Satanists perform Satanic rituals.
Fact the KJB was allegedly translated verbatim from the original manuscripts that were over 1600 years old in the case of the new testament. And despite ancient man having no method to preserve writings. In fact most stories were passed word of mouth and embellished as they were retold.
OK, there's your claim.
Now where's your evidence?
Not only did Imperial Rome have methods to preserve writings but so did the earlier Greeks and indeed the Israelites in the form of scrolls as I'd have thought was well known seeing how they obsess over the things at every opportunity. If there were no 1st century scrolls of The Old Testament preserved then what would be the point of rewriting them all to excise references to Jesus being the messiah and then destroying all the earlier ones [earlier meaning prior to the Masoretic text]?
Let's check out some archæological FACTS:
Dead sea scrolls
• The scrolls are most commonly made of animal skins, but also papyrus and one of copper. They are written with a carbon-based ink, from right to left, using no punctuation except for an occasional paragraph indentation. In fact, in some cases, there are not even spaces between the words.
• The Scrolls have revolutionized textual criticism of the Old Testament. Interestingly, now with manuscripts predating the medieval period, we find these texts in substantial agreement with the Masoretic text as well as widely variant forms.
So not "spread by word of mouth" after all but written on durable media which survived quite well, except for their having to be buried during the war experience and being set fire to a couple of millennia later.
Did someone mention 1,600 years?
Codex Sinaiticus
• Codex Sinaiticus is one of the most important books in the world. Handwritten well over 1600 years ago, the manuscript contains the Christian Bible in Greek, including the oldest complete copy of the New Testament.
Well that one seems to have survived just fine. There is no oral tradition here. But when the gothic mind interprets the world—a world so grossly at variance with the one transmitted by word of mouth from one goth to another in the mosh pit—gibberish is the best we can expect. And gibberish is what we get.
Such is the spongiform-encephalopathy-by-proxy I experience whenever I hear the goth speak, whenever I read its scribblings. Evidence went out the window with Black Sabbath's portcullis and credit for persistance in the face of adversity evidence stayed out the window.
...I respect people's rights apart from when they are a bunch of twisted racists with an inability to read the book they preach...
How noble (and highly convenient) of you to respect the rights of others except when their views disagree with yours. The scornful shall not find wisdom, and will remain a fool:
Proverbs 14:6 (1611 King James Bible)
A scorner seeketh wisedome, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easie vnto him that vnderstandeth.
Also noble of you to then call us twisted illiterate racists. You are allowing yourself to be bitter, angry, evil and malicious through your hateful speech.
Ephesians 4:31 (1611 King James Bible)
Let all bitternes, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and euill speaking, be put away from you, with all malice,
Your sinful hatred of God and willful ignorance of His Word will not end well for you. Don't you know that your resistance to the will of God is an exercise in futllity? It would be better for you to submit and join God's children so we can all be one.
I cannot believe that you actually spout the misguided drivel you do and justify your homophobia, racism and hate from a book that is apparently a good book.
Fact the KJB was allegedly translated verbatim from the original manuscripts that were over 1600 years old in the case of the new testament. And despite ancient man having no method to preserve writings. In fact most stories were passed word of mouth and embellished as they were retold.
The then head of the Church of England the King who at this time had ultimate power commissioned the so called original manuscripts to be translated by 47 of the finest scholars of the day. And of course any parts that undermined his power would be included. I wouldn't expect you to understand British history or the history and power of the monarchy here. As one of your number doesn't believe that Belgium is a real place and another thinks that people choose to be disabled. This shows the level of ignorance on your site.
There was a true bible it was fully translated by one man, one of the scholars. Word for word, however King James ordered the true bible destroyed and all connected with it killed. Even massacring entire villages to prevent the power in it reaching the masses.
You stand and quote the parts of the bible that fit your twisted logic, someone quoted love thy neighbour. Your bible can be twisted to whatever you need it to say. It also promotes slavery, infanticide and bestiality.
I received an infraction because you have no ability without resorting to ridiculous name calling and stupidity to debate.
My 7 year old son has a better ability to debate than you. And no I am not gay, am not a satanist. The difference between you and me I help others, I do the right thing, I don't judge or condemn people, I respect people's rights apart from when they are a bunch of twisted racists with an inability to read the book they preach.
Feel free to attempt to a: call me some names or attempt to argue historical facts about my country.
Misguided drivel? Nothing in the Bible is misguided, and or drivel. 2 timothy 3:16.
I cannot believe that you actually spout the misguided drivel you do and justify your homophobia, racism and hate from a book that is apparently a good book.
Fact the KJB was allegedly translated verbatim from the original manuscripts that were over 1600 years old in the case of the new testament. And despite ancient man having no method to preserve writings. In fact most stories were passed word of mouth and embellished as they were retold.
The then head of the Church of England the King who at this time had ultimate power commissioned the so called original manuscripts to be translated by 47 of the finest scholars of the day. And of course any parts that undermined his power would be included. I wouldn't expect you to understand British history or the history and power of the monarchy here. As one of your number doesn't believe that Belgium is a real place and another thinks that people choose to be disabled. This shows the level of ignorance on your site.
There was a true bible it was fully translated by one man, one of the scholars. Word for word, however King James ordered the true bible destroyed and all connected with it killed. Even massacring entire villages to prevent the power in it reaching the masses.
You stand and quote the parts of the bible that fit your twisted logic, someone quoted love thy neighbour. Your bible can be twisted to whatever you need it to say. It also promotes slavery, infanticide and bestiality.
I received an infraction because you have no ability without resorting to ridiculous name calling and stupidity to debate.
My 7 year old son has a better ability to debate than you. And no I am not gay, am not a satanist. The difference between you and me I help others, I do the right thing, I don't judge or condemn people, I respect people's rights apart from when they are a bunch of twisted racists with an inability to read the book they preach.
Feel free to attempt to a: call me some names or attempt to argue historical facts about my country.
Please show where the Bible(KJV1611) promotes bestiality or retract your assertion.
I cannot believe that you actually spout the misguided drivel you do and justify your homophobia, racism and hate from a book that is apparently a good book.
Fact the KJB was allegedly translated verbatim from the original manuscripts that were over 1600 years old in the case of the new testament. And despite ancient man having no method to preserve writings. In fact most stories were passed word of mouth and embellished as they were retold.
The then head of the Church of England the King who at this time had ultimate power commissioned the so called original manuscripts to be translated by 47 of the finest scholars of the day. And of course any parts that undermined his power would be included. I wouldn't expect you to understand British history or the history and power of the monarchy here. As one of your number doesn't believe that Belgium is a real place and another thinks that people choose to be disabled. This shows the level of ignorance on your site.
There was a true bible it was fully translated by one man, one of the scholars. Word for word, however King James ordered the true bible destroyed and all connected with it killed. Even massacring entire villages to prevent the power in it reaching the masses.
You stand and quote the parts of the bible that fit your twisted logic, someone quoted love thy neighbour. Your bible can be twisted to whatever you need it to say. It also promotes slavery, infanticide and bestiality.
I received an infraction because you have no ability without resorting to ridiculous name calling and stupidity to debate.
My 7 year old son has a better ability to debate than you. And no I am not gay, am not a satanist. The difference between you and me I help others, I do the right thing, I don't judge or condemn people, I respect people's rights apart from when they are a bunch of twisted racists with an inability to read the book they preach.
Feel free to attempt to a: call me some names or attempt to argue historical facts about my country.
It appears you have one that preaches intolerance hatred and bile.
It pains me to see you in such pain. Have you thought about what brought you to God's favourite forum?
That's right: Jesus .
If He brought you here you have to ask why? He want's you to love Him.
Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
This raises the question, why do you reject Him? He died for three days so that you would be Saved(tm) from His Wrath. That means that you get to avoid the Lake of Fire.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to go to the Lake of Fire by spitting in Jesus's crying face?
Let me tell you that atheisticals have one reason for being the way they are. They abuse the free choice that Jesus offered them to worship Him or face forever damnation for one reason only.
That's right: anal sex
The gaywise militant agenda have high jacked real Bible positive science and turned it into a rallying cry for anality
The gaywise, lezzers and murderers all hate Jesus and so many times they come to our friendly forums to unleash streams of metaphorical golden urine into the eyes of Loving Jesus.
If only they could put away their hatred of honest True Christians(tm) maybe they could find their way to Salvation(r).
Well my twisted logic appears to be based not in science but in fact is taken from I believe the King James Bible which you obviously haven't read
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
In fact if you apply that then god is a being of combined gender neither male nor female. As both men and women are created in gods image.
If god is such a top geezer then he would not allow suffering, death or wars. But no that would come down to allowing man to have choice, so if god allows people to destroy others with terror racism and hate. It might be a bit lower down his priority list then about what sexuality, music or clothing they are into.
Looking forward to more hate and hopefully I can educate you more on the bibles positive message. It appears you have one that preaches intolerance hatred and bile.
Stop distorting the bible blasphemous fool. 2 Timothy 3:16 Matthew 4:4. Every word is real right down to the letter.
Well my twisted logic appears to be based not in science but in fact is taken from I believe the King James Bible which you obviously haven't read
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
In fact if you apply that then god is a being of combined gender neither male nor female. As both men and women are created in gods image.
No. This verse says that man was created in God's image. Later it says that a woman was created also (no mention to God's image).
If god is such a top geezer then he would not allow suffering, death or wars. But no that would come down to allowing man to have choice, so if god allows people to destroy others with terror racism and hate. It might be a bit lower down his priority list then about what sexuality, music or clothing they are into.
Looking forward to more hate and hopefully I can educate you more on the bibles positive message. It appears you have one that preaches intolerance hatred and bile.
We preach what the Bible says. What's wrong with that, sweetie?
By your logic HE would also be a gayeez, and a retard and whatever you chose to replace the word goth in your imbecile logic.
Go put your mind straight and then open a thread and properly present yourself.
That and having your math or philosophy teacher (whoever tried to teach you logic) fired.
PRAISE THE LORD!
Well my twisted logic appears to be based not in science but in fact is taken from I believe the King James Bible which you obviously haven't read
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
In fact if you apply that then god is a being of combined gender neither male nor female. As both men and women are created in gods image.
If god is such a top geezer then he would not allow suffering, death or wars. But no that would come down to allowing man to have choice, so if god allows people to destroy others with terror racism and hate. It might be a bit lower down his priority list then about what sexuality, music or clothing they are into.
Looking forward to more hate and hopefully I can educate you more on the bibles positive message. It appears you have one that preaches intolerance hatred and bile.
This is amazing and so well researched the quotes from the bible and the facts about the goth subculture so well unnderstood and displayed. However that is not the case at all.
I am amazed at the lack of knowledge of the bible displayed by so may christians, the upside down cross is not a satanic cross, but the cross of St Peter who was crucified upside down as is more painfall as penance for betraying Jesus. It also states that man is created in gods own image then it follows that god is all things and everywhere so god therefore is also a goth. And was Jesus not persecuted for being different. You are everything that is bad in this world.
Your tainted views your bigotted racist hatred and holier than thou attitude makes me sick. You quote the bible and spout your vile message of hate. You read a bible that was translated so may times incorrectly that it was given a spin each time and are incapable of formulating arguments.
We are given the freedom to choose in our lives I am a goth I play in a goth band. I have saved 5 peoples lives I have put myself on the line to help other people. Not because a book tells me to but because it is right. I have read the bible and taken its message. But unlike you I dont have to use it as a weapon or go to churches. I am not a Christian I believe in what I want to, I have beliefs and they are mine. Unlike you I respect other peoples right to choose I also am a disability advisor and work for a charity after being injured on duty.
So fit me in your hate filled stereotype then, it is thanks to people like you this world is such a place of hatred.
This sums it up for me a quote from your very own brother temperance taken from here. It shows the sheer level of stupidity and ignorance on this site
"You see, this is why, if Belgium was a real place, I'd be in favour of bombing it into oblivion."
Hello please make your way over to the introduction forum, and tell us who you are, and about your walk with Christ. Thank you very much!
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