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  • Virginia Day Templeton
    Christ's Battle Axe
     
    • Dec 2006
    • 2827

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    Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

    From the New York Slimes:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/ny...erland&emc=rss

    Be warned: it's a long and grueling read!

    Talk in Class Turns to God, Setting Off Public Debate on Rights

    By TINA KELLEY
    Published: December 18, 2006

    KEARNY, N.J. — Before David Paszkiewicz got to teach his accelerated 11th-grade history class about the United States Constitution this fall, he was accused of violating it.

    Shortly after school began in September, the teacher told his sixth-period students at Kearny High School that evolution and the Big Bang were not scientific, that dinosaurs were aboard Noah’s ark, and that only Christians had a place in heaven, according to audio recordings made by a student whose family is now considering a lawsuit claiming Mr. Paszkiewicz broke the church-state boundary.

    “If you reject his gift of salvation, then you know where you belong,” Mr. Paszkiewicz was recorded saying of Jesus. “He did everything in his power to make sure that you could go to heaven, so much so that he took your sins on his own body, suffered your pains for you, and he’s saying, ‘Please, accept me, believe.’ If you reject that, you belong in hell.”

    The student, Matthew LaClair, said that he felt uncomfortable with Mr. Paszkiewicz’s statements in the first week, and taped eight classes starting Sept. 13 out of fear that officials would not believe the teacher had made the comments.


    Since Matthew’s complaint, administrators have said they have taken “corrective action” against Mr. Paszkiewicz, 38, who has taught in the district for 14 years and is also a youth pastor at Kearny Baptist Church. However, they declined to say what the action was, saying it was a personnel matter.

    “I think he’s an excellent teacher,” said the school principal, Al Somma. “As far as I know, there have never been any problems in the past.”

    Staci Snider, the president of the local teacher’s union, said Mr. Paszkiewicz (pronounced pass-KEV-ich) had been assigned a lawyer from the union, the New Jersey Education Association. Two calls to Mr. Paszkiewicz at school and one to his home were not returned.

    In this tale of the teacher who preached in class and the pupil he offended, students and the larger community have mostly lined up with Mr. Paszkiewicz, not with Matthew, who has received a death threat handled by the police, as well as critical comments from classmates.

    Greice Coelho, who took Mr. Paszkiewicz’s class and is a member of his youth group, said in a letter to The Observer, the local weekly newspaper, that Matthew was “ignoring the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which gives every citizen the freedom of religion.” Some anonymous posters on the town’s electronic bulletin board, Kearnyontheweb.com, called for Matthew’s suspension.

    On the sidewalks outside the high school, which has 1,750 students, many agreed with 15-year-old Kyle Durkin, who said, “I’m on the teacher’s side all the way.”

    While science teachers, particularly in the Bible Belt, have been known to refuse to teach evolution, the controversy here, 10 miles west of Manhattan, hinges on assertions Mr. Paszkiewicz made in class, including how a specific Muslim girl would go to hell.

    “This is extremely rare for a teacher to get this blatantly evangelical,” said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a nonprofit educational association. “He’s really out there proselytizing, trying to convert students to his faith, and I think that that’s more than just saying I have some academic freedom right to talk about the Bible’s view of creation as well as evolution.”

    Even some legal organizations that often champion the expression of religious beliefs are hesitant to support Mr. Paszkiewicz.

    “It’s proselytizing, and the courts have been pretty clear you can’t do that,” said John W. Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, a group that provides legal services in religious freedom cases. “You can’t step across the line and proselytize, and that’s what he’s done here.”

    The class started on Sept. 11, and Matthew quickly grew concerned. “The first couple of days I had him, he had already begun discussing his religious point of view,” Matthew, a thin, articulate 16-year-old with braces and a passion for politics and the theater, recalled in an interview. “It wasn’t even just his point of view, it went beyond that to say this is the right way, this is the only way. The way he said it, I wasn’t sure how far he was going to go.”

    On the second day of taping, after the discussion veered from Moses’s education to free will, Matthew asked why a loving God would consign humans to hell, according to the recording.

    Some of Matthew’s detractors say he set up his teacher by baiting him with religious questions. But Matthew, who was raised in the Ethical Culture Society, a humanist religious and educational group, said all of his comments were in response to something the teacher said.

    “I didn’t start any of the topics that were discussed,” he said.

    In a Sept. 25 letter to the principal, Matthew wrote: “I care about the future generation and I do not want Mr. Paszkiewicz to continue preaching to and poisoning students.” He met with school officials and handed over the recordings.

    Matthew’s family wrote four letters to the district asking for an apology and for the teacher to correct any false statements he had made in class, particularly those related to science. Matthew’s father, Paul LaClair, a lawyer, said he was now considering legal action against the district, claiming that Mr. Paszkiewicz’s teachings violated their son’s First Amendment and civil rights, and that his words misled the class and went against the curriculum.

    Kenneth J. Lindenfelser, the lawyer for the Kearny school board, said he could not discuss Mr. Paszkiewicz specifically, but that when a complaint comes in about a teacher, it is investigated, and then the department leader works with the teacher to correct any inappropriate behavior.

    The teacher is monitored, and his or her evaluation could be noted, Mr. Lindenfelser said, adding that if these steps did not work, the teacher could be reprimanded, suspended or, eventually, fired.

    As for the request that Mr. Paszkiewicz correct his statements that conflict with the district’s science curriculum, “Sometimes, the more you dwell on the issue, the more you continue the issue,” Mr. Lindenfelser said. “Sometimes, it’s better to stop any inappropriate behavior and move on.”

    The district’s actions have succeeded, he said, as the family has not reported any continued violations.

    Bloggers around the world have called Matthew courageous. In contrast, the LaClairs said they had been surprised by the vehemence of the opposition that local residents had expressed against Matthew.

    Frank Viscuso, a Kearny resident, wrote in a letter to The Observer that “when a student is advised by his ‘attorney’ father to bait a teacher with questions about religion, and then records his answers and takes the story to 300 newspapers, that family isn’t ‘offended’ by what was said in the classroom — they’re simply looking for a payout and to make a name for themselves.” He called the teacher one of the town’s best.

    However, Andrew Lewczuk, a former student of Mr. Paszkiewicz, praised his abilities as a history teacher but said he regretted that he had not protested the religious discussions. “In the end, the manner in which Mr. Paszkiewicz spoke with his students was careless, inconsiderate and inappropriate,” he wrote to The Observer. “It was an abuse of power and influence, and it’s my own fault that I didn’t do anything about this.”

    One teacher, who did not give his name, said he thought both Matthew and his teacher had done the right thing. “The student had the right to do what he did,” the man said. As for Mr. Paszkiewicz, “He had the right to say what he said, he was not preaching, and that’s something I’m very much against.”

    Matthew said he missed the friends he had lost over his role in the debate, and said he could “feel the glares” when he walked into school.

    Instead of mulling Supreme Court precedents, he said with half a smile, “I should be worrying about who I’m going to take to the prom.”
    So, he told a Mudslime harlot the Truth about her damnation, and now he might get fired for it? I'm glad Gary and I left New Jersey while the leavin' was good!

    At least the town is standing on the right side.
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  • Poetic Peter
    Christian Poet Emeritus
    Forum Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1696

    #2
    Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

    Thank you, Sister! Say I do believe that if we can only keep on
    to win the 2008 election, that will be enough for us to be ready for Rapture
    which will surely then arrive before 2012. The tables are turning.

    In the meanwhile, youth is getting caught in time, while most impressionable.

    This much is clear: GOD is back in the classroom; to think, so close to midtown Madhatten!

    It's all good. Fire is coming, and soon.

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    • Father Maurice Lester
      Ring-kissing Papist dog
      • Sep 2006
      • 3366

      #3
      Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

      This teacher's sort of illogical and unhealthy thinking is typical of folks bordering the edge of insanity. To suggest that Dinosaurs were on Noah's ark is nothing less than a clear sign of mental instability.

      However sad this is I shall recite a special prayer for this poor soul while saying Mass and transforming wine and bread into the blood and flesh of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.




      Bless you, my flying Dinosaur pilots,
      Father Mo
      A Cardinal in the making.

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      • Rachael Van Helsing
        HEATHEN — Suspected Witch
        • Sep 2006
        • 5131

        #4
        Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

        I'm amazed that it was only a 16 year old boy who dared to face up to that monster. Not only proselytizing his horrible religion, but telling other people they'll go to 'hell'.

        That teacher is a wretched excuse for a human being and should have been fired on the spot after hearing that many recordings. Now, it wouldn't have been a big problem if he'd just said once that he's an xtian and left it at that. But to go on and preach that his way is the only way and that everyone who disagrees deserves to be tormented forever is despicable.
        Religion doesn't belong in school. Dammit, why did no one get the ACLU onto this case?
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        • Brother Love
          Yes, THAT Brother Love!
          True Christian™
          • Nov 2006
          • 403

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          Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

          Sister Virginia thank ya for postin this IMPORTANT message. Praise the Lord fir ya! Ya is a true BLESSING to GOD'S ONLY True Christian Church on the face of this DEMON PLANET. Ya is a true WOMAN of the Lord. Praise God!

          Brother Poetic Peter I be praisin' JESUS for ya too. Ya is ABSOLUTELY RIT! God IS back in the CLASSROOM. GLORY!

          Rev. Maurice (I ain't callin ya "father" cuz all TRUE CHRISTIANS know that it be a SIN to call ANY MAN Father!). You LACK of SUPPORT for that GODLY TEACHER puttin that MUDSLIME harlot in her place does NOT surprise me considerin' that ya is a member of that Cathy-lick "church" which is really the Church of the ANTI-Christ and ever one on the planet knows it.

          WITCH van HELL-SINGER you NEVER surprise me cuz ya ALWAYS take the stand that is AGAINST THE LORD. All that teacher was doin was speakin the TRUTH to that MUDSLIME HARLOT! It be 'bout time that God's Holy People STAND UP and FIGHT BACK by PROCLAIMING the TRUTH of the LORD JESUS CHRIST and NO MATTER whose feelin's that truth hurts!! TRUE CHRISTIAN RELIGION DOES belong in EVERY CLASSROOM! As for the ACLU...well....ever body knows that THING be an EVIL abomination that GLORIFIES THE DEVIL HIMSELF!!

          I PRAISE THE LORD for that teacher havin' the GUTTS to speak the LORD"S TRUTH!
          Evangelist for Jesus and The Word!!

          "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Matthew 7:15


          "Prayer should be your first resource. Not your last resort!!"

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          • Brother Temperance
            Senior Usher
            True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
            A very nice young man
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 15621

            #6
            Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

            Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
            I'm amazed that it was only a 16 year old boy who dared to face up to that monster. Not only proselytizing his horrible religion, but telling other people they'll go to 'hell'.

            That teacher is a wretched excuse for a human being and should have been fired on the spot after hearing that many recordings. Now, it wouldn't have been a big problem if he'd just said once that he's an xtian and left it at that. But to go on and preach that his way is the only way and that everyone who disagrees deserves to be tormented forever is despicable.
            Religion doesn't belong in school. Dammit, why did no one get the ACLU onto this case?
            He didn't just tell "other people" they were going to Hell; he told a Muslim she was going to Hell. That's pretty much inarguable. I think he should be saluted for having the courage to point this sort of thing out. And the ACLJew were probably too busy sodomising each other to notice.
            O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



            God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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            • Pastor Isaac Peters
              Senior Pastor
              Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
              Always Biblically correct
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 10639

              #7
              Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

              Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
              I'm amazed that it was only a 16 year old boy who dared to face up to that monster. Not only proselytizing his horrible religion, but telling other people they'll go to 'hell'.
              You have it exactly backwards yet again, Mrs. Van Helltopay. The monster was the student, who was not content to reject Jesus and thus condemn himself to hell, but instead had to engage in blatantly politically correct, anti-Christian persecution against that fine teacher, thereby ensuring that other students will not hear the saving Gospel and will join him in the lake of fire. Leave it to you to say what a good thing that is.

              That teacher is a wretched excuse for a human being and should have been fired on the spot after hearing that many recordings. Now, it wouldn't have been a big problem if he'd just said once that he's an xtian and left it at that. But to go on and preach that his way is the only way and that everyone who disagrees deserves to be tormented forever is despicable.
              Oh, so now it's despicable for a teacher to to teach the truth? What an inverted values system you have.

              Religion doesn't belong in school. Dammit, why did no one get the ACLU onto this case?
              For once, you and I were thinking similar thoughts (insofar as what you do can be called thinking). I'm surprised that the ACLU didn't call to have that teacher jailed for anti-mooselimb hate speech.
              This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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              • demoncrat
                Deranged lieberal who hates Jesus
                • Nov 2006
                • 79

                #8
                Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                That teacher will still go to hell if he doesn't tithe to Landover.

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                • Pastor Ezekiel
                  Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                   
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 78556

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                  Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                  Originally posted by demoncrat View Post
                  That teacher will still go to hell if he doesn't tithe to Landover.
                  As will you, nancyboy. As a confessed and admitted sodomite, you are in no position to criticize others.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                  Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                  • demoncrat
                    Deranged lieberal who hates Jesus
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 79

                    #10
                    Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    As will you, nancyboy. As a confessed and admitted sodomite, you are in no position to criticize others.
                    I'm content with getting sodomized by 12-foot demons, though.

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                    • Rachael Van Helsing
                      HEATHEN — Suspected Witch
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 5131

                      #11
                      Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                      Originally posted by More Saved Than Thou View Post
                      You have it exactly backwards yet again, Mrs. Van Helltopay. The monster was the student, who was not content to reject Jesus and thus condemn himself to hell, but instead had to engage in blatantly politically correct, anti-Christian persecution against that fine teacher, thereby ensuring that other students will not hear the saving Gospel and will join him in the lake of fire. Leave it to you to say what a good thing that is.
                      That student was courageous and brought to light a foul and brainwashed human being whose immoral actions might have otherwise gone on unchecked. A sad state of things indeed when an act of courage is treated thusly. The fact that he was shunned by fellow students afterwards is disgraceful...he was doing them all a service.

                      Oh, so now it's despicable for a teacher to to teach the truth? What an inverted values system you have.
                      That is not the truth. That is his beliefs and his beliefs only. It is not right, or fair, for him to present those beliefs to others in a public school. Religion does not belong in school. Were I a teacher I would not mention my beliefs to students (or coworkers) at all. Talk of beliefs or religion does not belong in either work or school.
                      Young people deserve the right to decide what they do or don't believe for themselves, not to have someone else's opinion rammed down their throat.

                      For once, you and I were thinking similar thoughts (insofar as what you do can be called thinking). I'm surprised that the ACLU didn't call to have that teacher jailed for anti-mooselimb hate speech.
                      It wasn't only anti muslim. He was basically saying that EVERYONE who does not share his belief system is doomed, in his opinion, to hell. That was an anti-non xtian piece of hatespeech, and that guy deserves to be fired. I can't believe they didn't fire him.
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                      • Virginia Day Templeton
                        Christ's Battle Axe
                         
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2827

                        #12
                        Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                        Originally posted by Rachael Van Helsing View Post
                        It wasn't only anti muslim. He was basically saying that EVERYONE who does not share his belief system is doomed, in his opinion, to hell. That was an anti-non xtian piece of hatespeech, and that guy deserves to be fired. I can't believe they didn't fire him.
                        As one of the students in question might say, LOL! Don't you get it? The people who don't "share his belief system" (the Truth) ARE damned to Hell.

                        "Anti-non Christian?" Since Jesus frowns upon the use of double negatives, let me figure out what you're really saying... a-ha! The word you're looking for is "Christian." He was expressing his beliefs, and his right to do so is guaranteed by our Bible-based Constitution. As for "hate speech," there's simply no such thing. It's a meaningless neologism used by liberals to spit on the Truth, and it has no place in a Godly community like Landover.
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                        • Glendora Christianson
                          Spiritual Mother of LBC
                          True Christian™
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 2329

                          #13
                          Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                          I couldn't bear to read that article. All it took was one look at the student's photo to tell that he's a homosexual goth. As far as I'm concerned, GOD has already given all heathen students a big red F!
                          Jesus - gentle, dependable overnight relief.

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                          • Rachael Van Helsing
                            HEATHEN — Suspected Witch
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 5131

                            #14
                            Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                            Originally posted by Virginia D. Templeton View Post
                            As one of the students in question might say, LOL! Don't you get it? The people who don't "share his belief system" (the Truth) ARE damned to Hell.
                            Oh, hell, you mean the mythical torture chamber that evolved from your twisted beliefs which are in fact a hybrid of Paganism and the Jewish beliefs? Hell evolved from 'Sheol', 'Gehenna' and 'Hades'. The torture chamber idea evolved later.
                            And as for Sheol (grave) you're headed there too, make no mistake.

                            "Anti-non Christian?" Since Jesus frowns upon the use of double negatives, let me figure out what you're really saying... a-ha! The word you're looking for is "Christian." He was expressing his beliefs, and his right to do so is guaranteed by our Bible-based Constitution. As for "hate speech," there's simply no such thing. It's a meaningless neologism used by liberals to spit on the Truth, and it has no place in a Godly community like Landover.
                            I meant that wretched excuse for a human being was not only predjudiced against muslims but against anyone who is not an xtian like him. Why, I bet he even believes that slightly differing branches to his own of xtianity are also doomed to this 'fiery pit'.
                            If such a place existed, he and all others like him would be the one's who'd deserve to burn in it.
                            Shame on him, and on all of you.
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                            • OnYourKnees
                              On Extended Furlough
                              True Christian™
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 4729

                              #15
                              Re: Christian Schoolteacher Persecuted for Telling Truth

                              Originally posted by Dorothy Van Gale View Post
                              'Sheol', 'Gehenna' and 'Hades', oh my! 'Sheol', 'Gehenna' and 'Hades', oh my!
                              >yawn< Really, if you only had a brain you'd come up with something new. Maybe Scarecrow can help?

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