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  • Serenity-Millennium
    Lying fluffy-bunny false Christian,
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    • Jun 2009
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    #1

    Jesus is a Communist

    Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    I just wanted to make a post where I showed that Jesus was a communist. Of course, if you believe He wasn't that's fine with me, too, I still love you so, so, soooo much!

    Luke 1:46-55And Mary said,

    I'm bursting with God-news;
    I'm dancing the song of my Savior God.
    God took one good look at me, and look what happened—
    I'm the most fortunate woman on earth!
    What God has done for me will never be forgotten,
    the God whose very name is holy, set apart from all others.
    His mercy flows in wave after wave
    on those who are in awe before him.
    He bared his arm and showed his strength,
    scattered the bluffing braggarts.
    He knocked tyrants off their high horses,
    pulled victims out of the mud.
    The starving poor sat down to a banquet;
    the callous rich were left out in the cold.
    He embraced his chosen child, Israel;
    he remembered and piled on the mercies, piled them high.
    It's exactly what he promised,
    beginning with Abraham and right up to now.


    49For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
    50And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
    51He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
    52He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
    53He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.


    Matthew 19: 16Another day, a man stopped Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
    17Jesus said, "Why do you question me about what's good? God is the One who is good. If you want to enter the life of God, just do what he tells you."
    18-19The man asked, "What in particular?"
    Jesus said, "Don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't lie, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as you do yourself."
    20The young man said, "I've done all that. What's left?"
    21"If you want to give it all you've got," Jesus replied, "go sell your possessions; give everything to the poor. All your wealth will then be in heaven. Then come follow me."
    22That was the last thing the young man expected to hear. And so, crest-fallen, he walked away. He was holding on tight to a lot of things, and he couldn't bear to let go.
    23-24As he watched him go, Jesus told his disciples, "Do you have any idea how difficult it is for the rich to enter God's kingdom? Let me tell you, it's easier to gallop a camel through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter God's kingdom."




    16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
    17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
    18He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
    19Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    20The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
    21Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
    22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
    23Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
    24And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


    Matthew 21: 12-14Jesus went straight to the Temple and threw out everyone who had set up shop, buying and selling. He kicked over the tables of loan sharks and the stalls of dove merchants. He quoted this text:

    My house was designated a house of prayer;
    You have made it a hangout for thieves.
    Now there was room for the blind and crippled to get in. They came to Jesus and he healed them.


    12And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
    13And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
    14And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them.


    Mark 12: 28One of the religion scholars came up. Hearing the lively exchanges of question and answer and seeing how sharp Jesus was in his answers, he put in his question: "Which is most important of all the commandments?" 29-31Jesus said, "The first in importance is, 'Listen, Israel: The Lord your God is one; so love the Lord God with all your passion and prayer and intelligence and energy.' And here is the second: 'Love others as well as you love yourself.' There is no other commandment that ranks with these."



    28And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
    29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
    30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
    31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.


    Matthew 25: 31-33"When he finally arrives, blazing in beauty and all his angels with him, the Son of Man will take his place on his glorious throne. Then all the nations will be arranged before him and he will sort the people out, much as a shepherd sorts out sheep and goats, putting sheep to his right and goats to his left. 34-36"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Enter, you who are blessed by my Father! Take what's coming to you in this kingdom. It's been ready for you since the world's foundation. And here's why:

    I was hungry and you fed me,
    I was thirsty and you gave me a drink,
    I was homeless and you gave me a room,
    I was shivering and you gave me clothes,
    I was sick and you stopped to visit,
    I was in prison and you came to me.'
    37-40"Then those 'sheep' are going to say, 'Master, what are you talking about? When did we ever see you hungry and feed you, thirsty and give you a drink? And when did we ever see you sick or in prison and come to you?' Then the King will say, 'I'm telling the solemn truth: Whenever you did one of these things to someone overlooked or ignored, that was me—you did it to me.'



    33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
    36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
    37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
    38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
    39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
    40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.


    Leviticus 25: 35-38 "If one of your brothers becomes indigent and cannot support himself, help him, the same as you would a foreigner or a guest so that he can continue to live in your neighborhood. Don't gouge him with interest charges; out of reverence for your God help your brother to continue to live with you in the neighborhood. Don't take advantage of his plight by running up big interest charges on his loans, and don't give him food for profit. I am your God who brought you out of Egypt to give you the land of Canaan and to be your God.


    35And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
    36Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
    37Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.
    38I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God.


    Acts 4: 32-33The whole congregation of believers was united as one—one heart, one mind! They didn't even claim ownership of their own possessions. No one said, "That's mine; you can't have it." They shared everything. The apostles gave powerful witness to the resurrection of the Master Jesus, and grace was on all of them.
    34-35And so it turned out that not a person among them was needy. Those who owned fields or houses sold them and brought the price of the sale to the apostles and made an offering of it. The apostles then distributed it according to each person's need.




    32And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
    33And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
    34Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
    35And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.


    Acts 2: 41-42That day about three thousand took him at his word, were baptized and were signed up. They committed themselves to the teaching of the apostles, the life together, the common meal, and the prayers.
    43-45Everyone around was in awe—all those wonders and signs done through the apostles! And all the believers lived in a wonderful harmony, holding everything in common. They sold whatever they owned and pooled their resources so that each person's need was met.
    46-47They followed a daily discipline of worship in the Temple followed by meals at home, every meal a celebration, exuberant and joyful, as they praised God. People in general liked what they saw. Every day their number grew as God added those who were saved.




    42And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
    43And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
    44And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
    45And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
    46And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
    47Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
  • Nobar King
    Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
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    True Christian™
    • Sep 2007
    • 23748

    #2
    Re: Jesus is a Communist

    The problem is, I think YOU are a communist, and that agenda is clouding your brain and making it difficult to understand any kind of higher spiritual reality.
    May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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    • Serenity-Millennium
      Lying fluffy-bunny false Christian,
      Unsaved trash
      • Jun 2009
      • 472

      #3
      Re: Jesus is a Communist

      That might be true, but can you explain to me what I understood incorrectly?

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      • Nobar King
        Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
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        True Christian™
        • Sep 2007
        • 23748

        #4
        Re: Jesus is a Communist

        How about all of it? Jesus is NOT a dirty communist.
        May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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        • Serenity-Millennium
          Lying fluffy-bunny false Christian,
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          • Jun 2009
          • 472

          #5
          Re: Jesus is a Communist

          Then why does he preach communism?

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          • eliot mayfield
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            • Sep 2006
            • 9324

            #6
            Re: Jesus is a Communist

            Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
            Then why does he preach communism?
            Jesus was preaching from the Communist manifesto? I don't believe it for a second. Please show me the verse. I'm sure looking forward to the part where you post Jesus as saying religion is the opiate of the masses and Jesus banning Christianity.

            Do you even know what communism is?
            Matthew:
            5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
            5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
            10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
            10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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            • Serenity-Millennium
              Lying fluffy-bunny false Christian,
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              • Jun 2009
              • 472

              #7
              Re: Jesus is a Communist

              Alright, silly me. Why did Jesus preach economic and social constructs similar in general to what is now known as Communism, except for the atheistic leanings?

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              • eliot mayfield
                God Squad
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                • Sep 2006
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                #8
                Re: Jesus is a Communist

                Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
                Alright, silly me. Why did Jesus preach economic and social constructs similar in general to what is now known as Communism, except for the atheistic leanings?
                Where did he say take all the lazy stupid people and put them in charge of everything?
                chap, verse, please.

                Did Jesus say, "He who does not work shall not eat?
                Matthew:
                5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
                5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
                10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
                10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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                • Serenity-Millennium
                  Lying fluffy-bunny false Christian,
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                  • Jun 2009
                  • 472

                  #9
                  Re: Jesus is a Communist

                  Jesus spoke it through the Apostle Paul.

                  2 Thessalonians 3: 10-13Don't you remember the rule we had when we lived with you? "If you don't work, you don't eat." And now we're getting reports that a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings are taking advantage of you. This must not be tolerated. We command them to get to work immediately—no excuses, no arguments—and earn their own keep. Friends, don't slack off in doing your duty.


                  10For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.


                  Lenin believed strongly in this principle, stating the rich have no right to live off the work of the poor.

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                  • StreetPreacherLew
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                    • Mar 2008
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                    #10
                    Re: Jesus is a Communist

                    Jesus said give Caesar what is Caesar's. What it doesn't say is give Obama what is mine so he can give it to whatever lazy bastard or country that didn't work for it.

                    Jesus said to sell everything I have, give it to the poor and follow Him. Where does it say I should sell everything I have and give it to Obama for redistribution...???

                    Read literally, this no longer applies because Jesus isn't physically here to follow around and make sure I get fed. Again, this is America and I could go from rich to flat broke to rich again several times in my life. Where does it say I have to get poor and stay that way?

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                    • Brother Lazarus
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                      • Jul 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: Jesus is a Communist

                      Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post
                      Jesus spoke it through the Apostle Paul.

                      2 Thessalonians 3: 10-13Don't you remember the rule we had when we lived with you? "If you don't work, you don't eat." And now we're getting reports that a bunch of lazy good-for-nothings are taking advantage of you. This must not be tolerated. We command them to get to work immediately—no excuses, no arguments—and earn their own keep. Friends, don't slack off in doing your duty.


                      10For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.


                      Lenin believed strongly in this principle, stating the rich have no right to live off the work of the poor.
                      You've made over 100 posts now. I can't say I've read all of them but of the many I have read, or tried to read, none of them have made any sense.

                      I have no idea why you are here since you share none of our values or beliefs. Do you fancy yourself as some sort of hippie evangelist to True Christianity? If so, it is not working. So take a shower, shave, start wearing clothes, get a haircut and get on with your life's work.

                      Yours in Christ
                      Brother Lazarus
                      In the Beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth. Genesis 1.1. This scripture is the first verse of the Bible for a reason. It lays the foundation for the absolute truth found in God's Holy WORD, the Bible.

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                      • StreetPreacherLew
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                        • Mar 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: Jesus is a Communist

                        Originally posted by Serenity-Millennium View Post


                        Lenin believed strongly in this principle, stating the rich have no right to live off the work of the poor.
                        They do when they're putting up the venture capital.

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                        • eliot mayfield
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: Jesus is a Communist

                          But in Communism, the lazy idiots run things!!!! They're working. The people not working are the ones the lazy stupid people hate. Christians, hard workers, anybody who as earned the right to live nicely! They lose it all to the stench ridden mudeaters who come oozing into the manors, castles, and churches. They loved turning churches into pigsties.
                          Matthew:
                          5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
                          5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
                          10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
                          10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


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                          • StreetPreacherLew
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                            #14
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                            45And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord. 46And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
                            47And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
                            48For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
                            49For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
                            50And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
                            51He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
                            52He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
                            53He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
                            54He hath helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;
                            55As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
                            56And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.



                            If you read it in the ORIGINAL KJV version.... It looks like Mary is just bragging up the fact that God knocked her up. Of course he fed the poor...but it doesn't say He stole the rich people's food to do it.

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                            • Serenity-Millennium
                              Lying fluffy-bunny false Christian,
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                              • Jun 2009
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                              #15
                              Re: Jesus is a Communist

                              Originally posted by StreetPreacherLew View Post
                              Jesus said give Caesar what is Caesar's. What it doesn't say is give Obama what is mine so he can give it to whatever lazy bastard or country that didn't work for it.

                              Jesus said to sell everything I have, give it to the poor and follow Him. Where does it say I should sell everything I have and give it to Obama for redistribution...???

                              Read literally, this no longer applies because Jesus isn't physically here to follow around and make sure I get fed. Again, this is America and I could go from rich to flat broke to rich again several times in my life. Where does it say I have to get poor and stay that way?
                              But Obama isn't a socialist, so your comparison has no grounds.

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