[RomanK]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

last time I checked the bible was comprised of 66 books.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

last time I checked the bible was comprised of 66 books.

You really have an issue with numbers, don't you.


Looks like a single book to me.

[Mike L]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

Thanks salvationseeker! This cleared up a few misconceptions I had

[sweetwhitebabychrist]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

1. "Jesus was all about peace."
This is a common false teaching with no Biblical base.
Jesus Himself tells us, in a way that cannot be misunderstood, that we are not to believe it:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:34

And how could anyone forget Exodus 15:3?
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
Exodus 15:3


2. "Jesus loves everyone."
WRONG! The Holy Bible tells us that God hate sinners.
And hate is the opposite of love, wouldn't you agree?

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
iniquity is some good wording. so if god hates immoral unjust people. by that same line of thought is it fair that the people born in regions that didnt hear about jesus for thousands of years went to hell. isnt that hippocracy. i said rational arguments using scripture isnt logistics now is it thats faithbased argument but ill be sure to be as thorough as possible.


Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
Psalm 5:5-6
so your saying its all about war.
i agree

The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth.
Psalm 11:5

.,.....whoops there you go again negating yourself(see previous statement
And as seen above, He hate the sinners themselves, not just their evil works.that comes without saying.
God draws no difference between works and person, as everyone will be judged and rewarded according to their works:

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:27

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God;
And the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life:
And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 20:12


3. "Christians aren't allowed to judge anyone."
Incorrect.
Instead, the Holy Bible actually COMMANDS us to judge, as long as we judge according to, and in, righteousness.
i never said that

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1 Corinthians 2:15
agreeable atleast moreso.

Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment:
Thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty:
But in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
Leviticus 19:15


4. "Christians hate you if they rebuke you."
No, we don't! We are actually the only ones to love you enough to try and SAVE you!
We are the only ones who care enough about your worthless hide to bother and help you avoid hell.
Jesus Saves! And we urge you to accept Him before you die, as it will Save you from eternal hellfire.
True love is defined by God in the Holy KJV1611 Bible:
i realize that having been "saved" once before your all very nice at first glace.

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:2-3

Truly, God knows what's best for His own creations; to accept Jesus and all His commandments, rather than burn in hell.
We carry all of His commandments out, and we love Him, thus we love you; the unsaved trash, just as we try to Save you.
We may show you tough love.. We'll rebuke you, and chasten you. But we do it BECAUSE we love you.
Very much like God Himself:

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.
Job 5:17-18

Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;
Psalm 94:12

My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:
For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
Proverbs 3:11-12

For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Hebrews 12:6

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Revelation 3:19

So rebuking and chastening is the will of God, just as we are commanded to rebuke.

Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
Leviticus 19:17

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
But after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Timothy 4:2-4

^ This (2 Timothy 4:3-4) is what we see happening today:
The love of God and His commandments is gone, and thus, the love of His creation:
People are being led towards eternal hellfire by feelgood preachers teaching pretty lies to "spare feelings."
Fags are being married in false churches! Women try to act like teachers!
Alll forbidden by God in His sound doctrine, His eternal truth, His Word; the Holy KJV1611 Bible.

It is as the Holy KJV1611 Bible, the Word of God says:
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.
Ecclesiastes 7:5-6

AM I THEREFORE BECOME YOUR ENEMY, BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE TRUTH?
Galatians 4:16
this is what im trying to do but i guess its always differnt from the otherside

5. "Jesus did away with the Old Testament law."
Not true in any way.
Jesus Himself denies it on several occasions.
i also never said that but ill let you try and conclude whatever point your trying to make. but im going to assume your not eating pork

And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
He said unto him, What is written in the law? How readest thou?
Luke 10:25-26

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:
But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:17

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:3-4

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:17-18

And so, when will heaven and earth pass, and all be fulfilled?
REVELATION, CHAPTER 21!

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
And God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
And there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
Revelation 21:1-6

Some will tell you that by being the fullfillment of the law, Jesus removes it (i.e destroys it) not only is this contradicted by the verse itself.
But also because sin is the transgression of the law!
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1 John 3:4

^ So without law; there could be no sin!
But there is sin, and as the Holy scriptures say:

What then? Shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Romans 6:15

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1 John 3:6

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous.
1 John 3:7

For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Romans 2:13


6. "You need only believe in Jesus to get into heaven."
This is true, but very misunderstood.
True faith ALWAYS carry works, so if your faith is true, works will ALWAYS follow.
Works without faith however, cannot save you anymore than faith without works!

Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say,
Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:17-20

So if your faith lack works, your faith is dead, and you have the faith of a devil;
You know of God, but you do not follow Him. And it will do you no more good than it does a devil.
Your reward will be eternal hellfire.

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luke 6:46

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
But he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21

For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Romans 2:13


7. "You don't need to believe everything in the Bible."
Absolutely wrong, Jesus tells us that's EXACTLY what we must do!
We must believe EVERY little word: all of the Holy Bible, 100% of it!
It is as important for your Salvation, as eating food is to sustain your life.

But he answered and said, It is written,
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Matthew 4:4

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know;
That he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Deuteronomy 8:3

If you don't believe in every word, it is like not beliving in a part of Jesus Himself, for Jesus is the Word made flesh!

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:14


8. "Jesus will forgive every single one of your sins if you repent."
This is an unbiblical lie straight from the pits of hell! The Holy Bible tells us that there is a sin which is never forgiven.
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
Mark 3:29


9. "Babies always go to Heaven if they die."
This is unbiblical crybaby nonsense that has no scriptural support whatsoever.
For nobody is innocent, clean, pure, or sinfree in God's eyes by their own accord:

How then can man be justified with God? Or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
Job 25:4

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good?
There is none good but one, that is, God.
Mark 10:18

Babies can be wicked, and most wicked were BORN wicked. This is a Biblical fact.
The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Psalm 58:3

As is the fact that everyone (that includes babies) who doesn't accept Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Saviour, will perish!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

again god hates iniquity? so he must hate himself.

[Jarska]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

Explain these to me.

God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
[Editor's note: Some readers have raised an objection to this alleged contradiction. They point out that PSA 145:20 states that The Lord keeps all who love Him, but that He will destroy the wicked. In other words, some see no contradiction between "The Lord is good to all" and JER 13:14. Others contend, however, that even if the Lord destroys the wicked he could do so with compassion, pity, and mercy. Further, there are biblical examples that indicate that the Lord is not necessarily "good" or merciful--even to those who are not wicked. One such example is Job. As one reader points out, "If Psalm 145:9 was not a contradiction of Psalm 145:20 or Jeremiah 13:14, it would read something like this: "The LORD is good to all, except the wicked: and his tender mercies are over all his works, except when He is punishing the wicked." In any case, the idea that the Lord is good and merciful is contradicted by countless examples in the Bible where God orders the destruction of infants, personally kills David's infant child, etc.]

War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Who is the father of Joseph
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

The number of beasts in the ark
GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

How many stalls and horsemen?
1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

These were just a few of them. I you like i can give you more but for now please explain these to me. I the bible lying to us in some parts? How can we know which parts are true and which arent?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

No, the Bile is perfectly clear.

When you read a murder mystery, is it the same at the beginning and at the end? When you bake a pie, does the flour taste the same before you make it as it does after?

Also, you are taking everything out of context, the balance of those verse are critical.

What does this mean:

Don't Stop

Does it mean "do not do what you are doing, please stop it" or does it mean "do not stop"?

[Jarska]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

No, the Bile is perfectly clear.

When you read a murder mystery, is it the same at the beginning and at the end? When you bake a pie, does the flour taste the same before you make it as it does after?

Also, you are taking everything out of context, the balance of those verse are critical.

What does this mean:

Does it mean "do not do what you are doing, please stop it" or does it mean "do not stop"?

But that didnt answer which one is telling the truth.
For example this one
War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
Now tell me. Is god a man of war or peace?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

Please post the ENTIRE verse to compare meaning of a passage. What you have is the equivalent of this:
Yes
No

...and then asked which is correct. If you are incapable of understanding this, let us know.

God is not a man. God is the Creator. You are all confused!

[Jarska]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

Please post the ENTIRE verse to compare meaning of a passage. What you have is the equivalent of this:
Yes
No

...and then asked which is correct. If you are incapable of understanding this, let us know.

God is not a man. God is the Creator. You are all confused!

Sorry but i couldnt find the entire verse so you will have to handle with that.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

Sorry but i couldnt find the entire verse so you will have to handle with that.

What,you think you can come onto OUR private web site, make outlandish claims and when called on it, ask me to do YOUR 'proof'??? I suppose you did not come up with your big list, you copied and pasted from some other God hater.
You remind me of the typical 1st year communitycollege dolt, taking philosophy 101 and trying to make empty head sorority girls think he is 'deep'. What a clown!

Your complete and utter fail here just further substantiates the Majesty of Jesus.

FTW
Check and Mate, God hater!

[Jarska]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

What,you think you can come onto OUR private web site, make outlandish claims and when called on it, ask me to do YOUR 'proof'??? I suppose you did not come up with your big list, you copied and pasted from some other God hater.
You remind me of the typical 1st year communitycollege dolt, taking philosophy 101 and trying to make empty head sorority girls think he is 'deep'. What a clown!

Your complete and utter fail here just further substantiates the Majesty of Jesus.

FTW
Check and Mate, God hater!

Actually you didnt prove anything yet. So bible lies about some things?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

Actually you didnt prove anything yet. So bible lies about some things?

I had nothing to prove at this time, you completely FAILED provide complete scripture to back up your plagiarized claims.

The Bible is the Truth(c). You should read it instead of making stuff up and stealing other peoples shallow BS. Be your own man, do something instead of sucking at straws.

[Jarska]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

I had nothing to prove at this time, you completely FAILED provide complete scripture to back up your plagiarized claims.

The Bible is the Truth©. You should read it instead of making stuff up and stealing other peoples shallow BS. Be your own man, do something instead of sucking at straws.

What if you find the complete scripture. I think you have a bible. Its hard to find something from the bible in the internet.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

What if you find the complete scripture. I think you have a bible. Its hard to find something from the bible in the internet.

The Word of God can be had for free if you just visit your local Independant Baptist Church and ask the Pastor for one. Make sure you ask specifically for a KJV1611 Authorized Version Bible.

Also you can read one online at www.biblegateway.com. And for your assisted reading pleasure, Brother V has got a wonderful thread going HERE called "Bible in a Year."

[worshiper29]

Re: Debunking common myths about Christianity

But that didnt answer which one is telling the truth.
For example this one
War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
Now tell me. Is god a man of war or peace?

You thought your intelligence could 1-up God's intelligence?

After a True Christian™ reads both of those verses, they obviously would conclude that God is multifaceted. He can be merciful, but he can also show anger. In the same way, God can be one of war or one of peace...he can be BOTH. Neither of these verses contradict each other.