How Old Do Your Sons Have to be Before Stoning Them?

[Flat Lander]

I took the good brother Eliot Maynard's suggestion, and now I'm reading the KJV.

I came across the passage in Deuteronomy 21 that I'm sure all of you true Christians probably have memorized, it's the part about stoning your son if he won't obey the voice of his father.

18: If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20: And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21: And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

So, I'm sure that at least some of you have had sons who wouldn't listen to you, and I'm wondering, in your experience, at what age did you start stoning your sons?

Let's say, hypothetically, I have a son who is six. I put two toaster waffles in the toaster for breakfast, and tell him he can have one of them when it pops up. But, say, the phone rings and I have to go answer it in the living room because we don't have a phone in the kitchen, and when I get back the little angel has already eaten his toaster waffle, and is now halfway through eating my toaster waffle (and it's the last one). I tell him to give it to me, but he won't, because he is stubborn and rebellious AND a glutton (eating my food). So, if he is six, and stubborn, rebellious, and a glutton, (but not a drunkard) is it ok to take him to the elders of the city and have them stone him? Would this be a situation where they would just stone him until he had permanent disabilities instead of stoning him to death?

What have you good Christians done in similar circumstances?

[eliot mayfield]

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I took the good brother Eliot Maynard's suggestion, and now I'm reading the KJV.

I came across the passage in Deuteronomy 21 that I'm sure all of you true Christians probably have memorized, it's the part about stoning your son if he won't obey the voice of his father.

18: If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20: And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21: And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

So, I'm sure that at least some of you have had sons who wouldn't listen to you, and I'm wondering, in your experience, at what age did you start stoning your sons?

Let's say, hypothetically, I have a son who is six. I put two toaster waffles in the toaster for breakfast, and tell him he can have one of them when it pops up. But, say, the phone rings and I have to go answer it in the living room because we don't have a phone in the kitchen, and when I get back the little angel has already eaten his toaster waffle, and is now halfway through eating my toaster waffle (and it's the last one). I tell him to give it to me, but he won't, because he is stubborn and rebellious AND a glutton (eating my food). So, if he is six, and stubborn, rebellious, and a glutton, (but not a drunkard) is it ok to take him to the elders of the city and have them stone him? Would this be a situation where they would just stone him until he had permanent disabilities instead of stoning him to death?

What have you good Christians done in similar circumstances?

You're trying. keep it up, but a little Bible is a dangerous thing. Jesus told us we have to follow secular law. Now, when we manage to get a Biblical law USA which is our goal, then we can give you an exact answer.
But, even then, you'd have to take him to the elders of the village. The elders decide.

[Brother Enoch]

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I admit to not having contemplated this question before, as none of my children is in the least disobedient. They learned from a very early age that my word is law. Disobeying me doesn't even occur to them.
I think disobedient children are the fault of libral wackjobs raising their kids to be snotty little brats. It's those parents who should be stoned, IMHO.

[Marshall]

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If I ever catch on of my kids getting stoned I would beat then within inches of their lives.

[Nobar King]

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Trying to get the kids off the grass is not an easy task. Good luck to you.

[Rev Jeffrey Lebowski]

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WHEN you catch them diddling themselves, then that is the time to start stoning them.

See what happens to puppet Danny here when things start to grow >>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj4q_t-soZI

[Sin boy]

Re: How Old Do Your Sons Have to be Before Stoning Them?

Well, generally if a kid is being disobedient these days, it's the parents fault in some way or another. Not saying there aren't bad children, but sometimes parents can give their children the wrong message about what is right and what is wrong.

Try to sit the kid down and tell them what they did is bad in a rational way. If they don't get it after that, some form of punishment may be required. But certainly, they don't need to be stoned!

[Levi Jones]

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Well, generally if a kid is being disobedient these days, it's the parents fault in some way or another. Not saying there aren't bad children, but sometimes parents can give their children the wrong message about what is right and what is wrong.

Try to sit the kid down and tell them what they did is bad in a rational way. If they don't get it after that, some form of punishment may be required. But certainly, they don't need to be stoned!

Thank you Dr. Spock, for your extremely insightful and interesting advice on raising children!

Tell me. How many children do you have? How did you come to know better than God about how to raise them?

[Sin boy]

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Thank you Dr. Spock, for your extremely insightful and interesting advice on raising children!

Tell me. How many children do you have? How did you come to know better than God about how to raise them?

I'm not married yet, and as of now, I don't have any children. I'd love to be a father, however! I'm sure it's a rewarding experience.

Do I know better than God? Well, that depends on your view of God, really. I have formed my own opinions on how to raise children, and I think to raise a rational adult there are certain criteria people should meet.

But, that's just me. I can't tell anyone how to raise their children.

[the_truth420]

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you people are seriously misguided. seriously. you are some of the most fuck'd up people out there. stoning your children? holy shit. holy fuck'ng shit you are fuck'd.

[Levi Jones]

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I'm not married yet, and as of now, I don't have any children. I'd love to be a father, however! I'm sure it's a rewarding experience.

Well, knock me down with a feather! I couldn't have ever seen this coming!

Do I know better than God? Well, that depends on your view of God, really. I have formed my own opinions on how to raise children, and I think to raise a rational adult there are certain criteria people should meet.

You aren't in your 20's. You're a teenager. You still have that teen know-it-all swagger.

Get back to us when you don't know everything, mkay Connor?

But, that's just me. I can't tell anyone how to raise their children.

You just did or have you forgotten from being so high on the drugs?

[the_truth420]

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If I ever catch on of my kids getting stoned I would beat then within inches of their lives.

Hello, I'm very stoned right now, and I am amazed at people like you and
pastor ezeikiel" and brother avatar and these extremely piffleed up people in your "community". You are all misguided, lost, individuals.

[Flat Lander]

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Hello, I'm very stoned right now, and I am amazed at people like you and
pastor ezeikiel" and brother avatar and these extremely piffleed up people in your "community". You are all misguided, lost, individuals.

Dear Truth420:

You know, I try to be nice to everybody, but Brother Avatar and Pastor Ezekiel are friends of mine. They are the nicest, sweetest, most charitable, loving, tender, good Christian men practically in the whole world. You really should apologize for saying bad things about them. They are men of God who are doing only what God wants them to do and they know exactly what that is because they read the Bible, and not just any Bible, but the KJV1611.

I'm sure you just didn't understand the way we do things around here. Everybody is nice to everybody with never a harsh word. So, I'm sure that now that you know about being nice, you'll apologize for your unfortunate remarks.

Best wishes to you. I've learned from being here just a few days that God is a Christian. I hope you can become one if you aren't one already. That would make Jesus happy.

Good bye, and may God bless.

[Levi Jones]

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you people are seriously misguided. seriously. you are some of the most piffle'd up people out there. stoning your children? holy shit. holy piffle'ng shit you are piffle'd.

Relax. We are required to follow the laws of man, but if we weren't... Did you not read the opening verse?

Here, I'll post it again for you.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


You see, it's really up to the parents and it's not something to be done lightly. It's the LORD's way of getting rid of future problems.

I mean, if you had a child that was evil and mentally rotten to his core, wouldn't you do the right thing and put it down (if you could legally) before it kills, rapes or murders?

How many people would have to suffer at the hands of such a menace before society would finally step in and do it for you? (death penalty)

How could you sleep at night knowing the sociopath you bore raped and killed small children, but you did nothing when it was (theoretically) in your power to do so?

[the_truth420]

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So, because a young child wants Macdonalds instead of broccoli and wants to stay up a little later it is a demon child? It should be put down? You are fucked.