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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Re: The Holy Bible Series PART 1: HELL!

    Originally posted by Jo Freddie
    blah .. blah .. do not form a foundation .. etc.
    If that is the case then why - has the house stood?
    earlier you wrote:
    "This House" is built on sand and will not stand
    But it has stood.

    Originally posted by Eyesight
    Thats what the almighty Allah says so their book is real too?
    Allah is not The Almighty. The Almighty is Shaddai.

    @RomanK
    This house will not stand until the bible becomes just that, the bible.
    as regards the first part of your rather unusual comment, this house does stand and has stood for over 2,000 years Matthew 24:35
    The 2nd part is somewhat more enigmatic: The Bible of course already is The Bible

    @BelieverInGod
    You are very patient Galatians 5:22

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  • Jo Freddie
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    Re: The Holy Bible Series PART 1: HELL!

    Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post

    Matthew 7:24 … Matthew 24:35
    Qoutes from a collection of fairy tales do not form a foundation
    Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
    Look, the teaching of the Bible is our daily bread - the Bible clearly says (and this is God speaking through Paul,)

    Ti:1:14: Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.)


    So we are unlikely to listen to folk tales and fairy stories.
    If that is the case then why do you base your whole life on a book that is nothing but a collection of folk tales and fairy tales?
    Mr Freddie, if that is your name, may I just point out that as there is a Lake of Fire, it is certainly going to be burning... I'm sorry your intelligence did not allow you to see that.
    I am sorry that you intelligence does not give you the mental capabilities to realize that they do not in fact exist and they would not but a choice an intelligent creator would go for.

    Oh yes? Then who is the New Testament about then? You'd have thought that all those good, kind, honest disciples and True Christian™ authors would have had something better to do that make up stories - so, of course we can say with utter certainty, "Jesus was real!"
    Let us look at this logically, during the Roman period they were fanatical record keepers, yet you say there was a bloke going round raising the dead, turning water into wine and feeding 5,000 people with a fish supper. How come no one noticed at the time an made a note of it?

    The new testament - written long after the events where alleged to have happened by a group of people who wanted to justify their claim that other people should do what they told them to.

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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
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    Originally posted by Jo Freddie View Post
    "This House" is built on sand and will not stand even with just one version of the collected fairy tales.
    Look, the teaching of the Bible is our daily bread - the Bible clearly says (and this is God speaking through Paul,)

    Ti:1:14: Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.)


    So we are unlikely to listen to folk tales and fairy stories.

    A burning Lake of Fire - Not a good choice for an Intelligent Creator
    Mr Freddie, if that is your name, may I just point out that as there is a Lake of Fire, it is certainly going to be burning... I'm sorry your intelligence did not allow you to see that

    Jesus Christ - never existed
    Oh yes? Then who is the New Testament about then? You'd have thought that all those good, kind, honest disciples and True Christian™ authors would have had something better to do that make up stories - so, of course we can say with utter certainty, "Jesus was real!"
    Last edited by Ezekiel Bathfire; 10-29-2010, 03:36 PM.

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  • MitzaLizalor
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    Originally posted by RomanK
    You do you brimestone is another word for sulpher right?
    yes
    you wern't supposed to worship graven images. And you have.
    no we haven't

    Originally posted by Jo Freddie
    "This House" is built on sand and will not stand
    Matthew 7:24Matthew 24:35
    . . . . . .

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  • Jo Freddie
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    Originally posted by RomanK View Post
    Funny how one book can get twisted into various forms and still not one realize that they are divided against themselves. This house will not stand until the bible becomes just that, the bible.
    "This House" is built on sand and will not stand even with just one version of the collected fairy tales. Let us have a look at a couple of its foundations...

    A burning Lake of Fire - Not a good choice for an Intelligent Creator

    Jesus Christ - never existed


    I think I better make a correction, if it was built on sand that would be an improvement on its current foundations.

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  • RomanK
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    Funny how one book can get twisted into various forms and still not one realize that they are divided against themselves. This house will not stand until the bible becomes just that, the bible.

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  • BelieverInGod
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    Originally posted by RomanK View Post
    You do you brimestone is another word for sulpher right?

    Interesting, I never noticed this before when I read revelations, the false Prophet decieved those who have taken the mark. Combine that with the fact that you aren't supposed to worship graven images, anything of marbel, wood, or stone, as well as the images of man. The best conclusion can be drawn out by realizing the Cross with Jesus on it is the image of the Beast, since of course you wern't supposed to worship graven images. And you have.
    Once again.

    WE'RE NOT CATHOLICS

    We don't worship crosses or graven images. Sure there may be a cross on our church, but nobody bows down to it or kisses it or anything. In fact crosses on Christian churches is just a leftover from the time when people couldn't read. The same as different weather vanes.

    Sorry for the large red print, but nothing else is getting through to him.

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  • RomanK
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    Originally posted by Lycia The Repentant View Post
    You seem to like your creepy occult scribblings. Why don't you read the KJV instead of drawing that stuff?

    The lake of fire isn't life, its an actual lake of fire:

    "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Revelation 19:20

    "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Revelation 20:10

    "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Revelation 20:14

    "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15

    "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8
    You do you brimestone is another word for sulpher right?

    Interesting, I never noticed this before when I read revelations, the false Prophet decieved those who have taken the mark. Combine that with the fact that you aren't supposed to worship graven images, anything of marbel, wood, or stone, as well as the images of man. The best conclusion can be drawn out by realizing the Cross with Jesus on it is the image of the Beast, since of course you wern't supposed to worship graven images. And you have.

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  • Didymus Much
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    Originally posted by RomanK View Post
    The lake of Fire is life itself. duh.
    . duh.

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  • Lycia The Repentant
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    Originally posted by RomanK View Post
    The lake of fire was started by Osiris. From E.A. Wallis Budges book Osiris and the Egyptian Ressurection. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3556794719/

    The thought behind it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3827553514/

    The lake of Fire is life itself. duh.
    You seem to like your creepy occult scribblings. Why don't you read the KJV instead of drawing that stuff?

    The lake of fire isn't life, its an actual lake of fire:

    "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Revelation 19:20

    "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Revelation 20:10

    "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Revelation 20:14

    "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15

    "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8

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  • RomanK
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    The lake of fire was started by Osiris. From E.A. Wallis Budges book Osiris and the Egyptian Ressurection. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3556794719/

    The thought behind it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3827553514/

    The lake of Fire is life itself. duh.

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  • Jo Freddie
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    Re: The Holy Bible Series PART 1: HELL!

    An Announcement Regarding the Afterlife
    *As transcribed by Solipsy and Auntie Dee Dee
    1 An ancient and venerable sage spoke unto the Pastaists of all the divisions, unto the Noodleists, and unto the Maranarists, the Fettucinians, the Pastafarians, and all of the great Pasta-based members of the Holy and Delicious Faith, and said:
    2 It is my contention that a loving God of any kind would not Damn someone to Hell.
    3 Darning them to Heck would be a problem for a supposedly intelligent creator.
    4 Lakes of fire, boiling waters, sauces, etc, aren't a good choice.
    5 If you want to attract "justified" persons, portray just rewards and punishments.
    6 If you want to attract lunatics and sadists, portray violent punishments.
    7 There will be a kind of HellLight, where unbelievers have to live with school cafeteria spaghetti, second rate beer, and boring jobs in the service industries where the Heavenbound FSMists will be living.
    8 There will be no privation, no physical torture, no burning or boiling in various liquids.
    9 These aren't bad people, these are people that followed the culture and customs of their times and did not recognize the difference between a culture and a faith.
    10 Actual FSM Hell is reserved for a very few, and those will be divided from the Pasta, the finest beverages and the fellowship of persons of good will and kind intent.
    11 They will do all the laundry, cleaning and heavy or unpleasant jobs that are there.
    12 Never will they eat of the Pasta of any kind, but will live on lots of beans and rice, potatoes and extremely cheap cuts of meat, and the type of diet that the American urban poor can afford, or that Senior Citizens and disabled persons on Social Security are reduced to.
    13 They get the really icky dirty work.
    14 They deserve it.
    15 The bullies of the geopolitical world will be there, and their helpers.
    16 The false religious leaders, who plead for funds through electronic media, and give nothing of their true selves, and hoard the money and live in opulence, they will be there.
    17 Many others of ill-intent will be with them.
    18 There is a reservation there for the tricksters, the con-men, the Abramoff et al/Delay contingent, who will begin every work day by licking clean the footwear of every Native American person there, even in Hell Light.
    19 Also there will be the promulgators of the horrible practices against the indigenous people of every country ever "modernized" by Western Civilization.
    20 They lick boots as well.
    21 And when they're through they get to do all the stuff that nobody in the Hell above them want to do.
    22 Not a real burning-in type hell, no boiling lakes of fire, just an appropriate 'reward'.
    23 No more lunatics and sadists, please.
    24 The current administration's quite enough.
    25 Other people have other ideas, but then again other people are promoting Holy War, too.
    26 Don't do that in the name of our FSM.
    27 That's not the Way to Do Things Right.

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  • BelieverInGod
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    Originally posted by Eyesight View Post
    I'm a Christian right now but I am looking to gather some information for one final decision. ITS A BOOK what about the Qu'aran? Thats what the almighty Allah says so their book is real too? Thats exactly what they think. There has ALSO been many evidence to prove that God could not exist.
    Mohamad was visited by an angel, not Jesus, not God. Well we're told to be careful about angels aren't we.

    2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    It is the one common theme that you will find in all of the false religions. "An angel appeared to me as a beacon/flash of light".

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  • Nobrains
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    I'm a Christian right now but I am looking to gather some information for one final decision. ITS A BOOK what about the Qu'aran? Thats what the almighty Allah says so their book is real too? Thats exactly what they think. There has ALSO been many evidence to prove that God could not exist.

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  • Viggo B. Kristoffersen
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    Originally posted by Eyesight View Post
    First off what I want to say is that you all call yourselves Christians yet I see stuff like "Book for retard" and "How fat people destroy America" thats hate right there and if you THINK your going to Heaven with that hate then I want to go to the OPPOSITE direction your going to.
    Second of all what proof do you have to back up your claims of all this? Its just words.
    WHAT PROOF WE HAVE?????

    We have the most solid proof you can ever find - the HOLY BIBLE. And NO, it's not just words. It's the WORDS OF GOD THE ALMIGHTY. How dare you question him?

    2 Chronicles 15:12-13
    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul. All who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.

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