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Re: About HELL!

What the cathlicks believe is that after death, the dead enter an intermediary state in which those destined for heaven "undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven". The purification is by fire. But to get to heaven, you need to have confessed your sins (hence their death-bed confessions) and have those remaining on earth pray for you soul (requiem mass). It also helps if you have been granted indulgences (serving the church in some way, or donating money).

That is so a made up loads of codswallop I burst out laughing and spilled tea all over my Book of Australian Spiders in colour where I'd been checking some weird looking thing hanging around my new cactus garden (which turns out to be Hemicloea major). I'd asked the museum if they bite but they didn't know, the things apparently being out of range here. So I checked my spider book with a pot of tea and found it and I don't want it to bite me but the cactuses look very nice on their rocky bank and one of them is blooming.

Then I read the information you provided and burst out laughing, they really do believe that, don't they! You'd think they'd get suspicious when palms needed greasing and the money bag came out but evidently not.

What true Pastor would stoop so low, lies for children at €£¥$ so-much-a-pop (house and car included).

Is purgatory part of catholic hell, or at some intermediate location? I know they abolished "Limbo" which is in fact a type of dance but papists lie flat upon the ground for altogether different reasons. It's hilarious to see priests and nuns grovel, sure, they've made their bed and may lie as they wish but to lie knowingly to children is inexcusable. Thank you for your post.

Jesus speaking:
MATTHEW 23
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
KJV .. context

[Mother Of Seven]

Re: About HELL!

Well, according to Wiki

In 1206, a peasant named Thurkhill in England claimed that Saint Julian took him on a tour of Purgatory. He gave precise details, including descriptions of what he called Purgatory's "torture chambers", and was widely believed, including by the Church historian Roger of Wendover.[54]
In Dante's fourteenth century work The Divine Comedy, Purgatory is depicted as a mountain in the southern hemisphere. It is apparently the only land there. Souls given a second chance find themselves at Mt. Purgatory, where there are two levels, then Seven Levels representing the Seven deadly sins with ironic punishments. For example, on the first level for Pride the inhabitants are weighed down by huge stones which forces them to look at examples of Pride on the pavement like Arachne. (something to do with your spider perhaps?) When they reach the top they will find themselves at Jerusalem's antipode, the Garden of Eden itself. Thus cleansed of all sin and made perfect, they wait in Earthly paradise before ascending to Heaven.

So it seems it's a mountain in the southern hemisphere. Probably in Australia, given the disgusting names they give their mountains there. eg: Mt Buggary, Mt Terrible, The Niggerheads, Mt Blowhard etc.
So full of superstitious clap-trap those cathylicks.

[Naomi Ruth Lamb]

Re: About HELL!

Sister Heather,

Mrs. O'Dowell is a cathylick lady that works at the post office here. One day when I was helping Mother send a package to her sister, Mrs. O'Dowell was having a conversation with Irene Edwards, another cathylick, about purgatory. Miss Irene was worried about her son since she doesn't believe he died in a state of grace.

Every day, Miss Irene says "Our Lady of Lourdes, pray for all the poor souls in purgatory" at least once an hour. Mrs. O'Dowell told her she should also ask St. Michael the Archangel to fight for the souls in purgatory since he has power over the devil. I couldn't bear to tell them how OCD they sounded. Mother cried out, "Hey, we're trying to send a package here. Irene, your kid is burning in hell and there's no amount of prayer to change that." Everyone in there was laughing hysterically about that. I think Jesus was, too.

Mother still thinks Mrs. O' Dowell charged her more than she should have to send the package.

[biatch77]

Re: About HELL!

I find this very interesting and am taking it to heart.


Thank you for posting this.

Dear Friends,

I present to you:

About HELL!



Chapter 1: Introduction.
The world is filled with people who claim to be Christians but who, at the same time, have no clue about what is really in the Holy Bible. They are called false Christians. There are many flavors, Catholics being the most common one. Unfortunately for all these false Christians, there is only one way to go to Heaven: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man comes to the Father but by Me." (John 14:6). So only by choosing Jesus for 100%, only by following His Holy Bible for 100%, can we ever hope to once reach Heaven. There is no other way. There is no shortcut!

However, God being rich in mercy and grace, wanted to be certain as many people as possible would go to Heaven. He made the alternative so horrible that everyone had but one choice: to want to go to Heaven. So God created some very simple guidelines and made sure everyone can know about them. Either you choose God, or you go to Hell: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8)

However, something amazingly horrible is happening all around us. Many people believe the evil lies of people like Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa, Ghandi and the Dalai Lama that all you have to do for a great afterlife is being a nice person. Some people even claim Hell doesn't even exist! They are all lying! Being a nice person has nothing to do with reaching Heaven. Everything you need to know to go to Heaven is in the Holy Bible and everything else is irrelevant! And God, being all knowing, explicitly warns us for these lying people: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24)

My "Holy Bible Series" are not meant as a substitute for the Holy Bible. All it does is showing specific parts of the Holy Bible so you can learn the truth instead of the lies that all these horrible people have been telling you. And it is my sincere hope that once you have learned the truth, that you will start doing the right thing. That you will stop listening to liars and start reading the real thing: God's Holy Bible. That you learn what God is really about. Because only after you really know what is in the Holy Bible can you determine who around you is telling the truth and who is lying to you.

Chapter 2: Does HELL really exist? Yes!
Since there are several false Christians who, falsely, claim the New Testament is somehow more important than the Old Testament, I will only use the New Testament in this chapter.

Let's start with the story of the rich man and the beggar: The Rich Man and Lazarus. The entire story is in Luke 16:19-31. Here: "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame." (Luke 16:22-24) we can learn 3 very important things. One: Hell exists. Two: Heaven exists. Three: There is nothing else. Purgatory does not exist. Limbo does not exist. Reincarnation does not exist. There is no alternative, shortcut or bypass. It's either Hell or Heaven! God could not have been more clear.

There are many warnings against Hell in the Hole Bible. For example: "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched" (Mark 9:43). Please note Mark makes very clear here that Hell is so horrible, that is better to cut off the hand you use to sin, e.g. the sin of masturbation, than to go to Hell! Could God have been any clearer? God clearly doesn't want us to suffer, why else would He have put so many warnings against Hell in His Holy Bible? Praise The LORD!

Hell is referred to in "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." (Revelation 20:10). Hell is not specifically mentioned in Revelation 20:10, but Hell is mentioned in Revelation 20:13 and Revelation 20:14, making clear Revelation 20:10 is all about Hell. Based on Revelation 20:10, some false Christians claim that ordinary humans will not go to Hell, as it mentions the beast and false prophets. They are completely wrong though. Just read what I said about Revelation 21:8 in chapter 1 again and you will see in no uncertain terms that murderers, liars and unbelievers will all go to Hell! Did you ever lie in your life? That makes you a liar! And as you now know, all liars will go to Hell!

Finally lets look at: "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him." (Luke 12:5). Making very clear we should fear both God and Hell! When I read this part of the Bible it always fills me with great joy that Jesus loves us so very much that he gave us these clear guidelines!

Chapter 3: What is HELL really like? Horrible!
Hell is a personalized experience. Not everyone will be tortured in exactly the same way. You can see that here: "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." (Revelation 20:13). So God, in his infinite mercy, adapts the punishment to the crimes you have committed. To those who note that Revelation 20:13 doesn't specifically mention punishment; Matthew 23:14, James 3:1, Matthew 11:23-24, Luke 12:46-48, 2nd Peter 2:20-21 and Revelation 20:13 also make clear, not all sinners are punished equally.

However everyone in Hell will burn! "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:14-15). So while the exact punishment will differ from person to person, all of them will burn in the fires of Hell! No exceptions.

The brimstone and the lake that are mentioned in Revelation 21:8 make clear how exactly the fires of Hell work. The best way to describe Hell is that there is a lake of liquid sulfur (as mentioned in Genesis 19:24) in which all those who are in Hell are all burning. That looks like the picture on top of this article. Looking horrible? Just imagine the real thing being much worse!

Where there is fire, there is smoke: "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up ..." (Revelation 14:11). So breathing in all that smoke and the horrible smell will be complete torture. You will feel like you are suffocating all the time! Your lungs will be burning with every breath you take!

And that's not all. It also says "... and they have no rest day nor night." (Revelation 14:11). So the torture is 24/7. In Hell you can never sleep and you can never rest!

Chapter 4: Is HELL really for all eternity? Yes!
How some false Christians believe Hell is only temporary is beyond me. The Holy Bible is abundantly clear about Hell being a place where sinners are being tortured for all eternity.

When you look at: "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels." (Matthew 25:41) you can clearly see all sinners (the angels of the devil) will be in Hell for all eternity.

Still in doubt? Then there is: "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;" (2nd Thessalonians 1:8-9). Also making very clear Hell lasts forever.

Still trying to convince yourself you will somehow escape from Hell? Look at: "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." (Matthew 25:46) where God clearly shows us both Heaven and Hell are eternal.

Denying our all knowing God's truth will never work. His Holy Bible is too clear. His eternal mercy is too great. God wants all of us to go to Him in Heaven. So He wants to make sure the alternative is so awful, so horrible, so inescapable, that no one would want to go there. If there was even a tiny chance of being allowed to leave from Hell, then that would hurt our drive to want to go to Heaven. And God does not want that. He wants us to go to Heaven. So God made Hell eternal! That is how much God loves us!

Chapter 5: That sounds awful, can I prevent this? Yes you can!
It makes God really sad when people choose the wrong path: "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" (Ezekiel 33:11). He really wants all of us to come to Him in Heaven. That is just how unbelievably magnificent God is!

There are many many ways to sin. So it is important to realize that it is impossible for us not to sin. That is just how awful we are. God gave us life, and we insult Him by sinning. And God knows this about us: "For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) and also "There is none righteous; no, not one." (Romans 3:10). So trying not to sin, trying to be good, is not the solution here. Like I said before, Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa, Ghandi and the Dalai Lama, all of them are completely and utterly wrong!

But fortunately for us, God is very merciful. He gives us clear instructions on how we can go to Heaven. We have to repent: "Except you repent, you shall all likewise perish" (Luke 13:3) and we have to have faith: "For by grace are ye saved through faith." (Ephesians 2:8). Surprisingly easy! We are truly blessed with a God being merciful and good: "And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth." (Exodus 34:6). The most amazing thing is that once we are saved, we are no longer sinners! "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." (1st John 1:7) "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood" (Revelation 1:5) "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1st John 3:9)

There are limits to God's leniency though. While someone who murders, acts homosexual, steals and rapes can easily go to Heaven, just as long as he repents and chooses Jesus, blasphemy is never allowed: "Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." (Matthew 12:31). So you have to be very careful to never do that. Because once you do, it's over and out. Forever. For all eternity.

May God bless you!

Yours in Christ,

Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.

[Dana723]

Re: About HELL!

I find this very interesting and am taking it to heart.


Thank you for posting this.

Well, even though you are a perverted masturbating homer, you have done one good thing. I had not read this post and it will make for a good lesson for my five boys homeschooling this upcoming week. Thank you!