God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

[somerandomperson3]

I would like to consider these organizations a way to blind people into believing the wrong thing about what God is truly about.

God does not hate anybody. Why would these organizations discourage the people who are non-believers into believing that God may possibly hate them for the fact that they are lost and without God?


God is love. Is He not? Discuss.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

I would like to consider these organizations a way to blind people into believing the wrong thing about what God is truly about.

God does not hate anybody. Why would these organizations discourage the people who are non-believers into believing that God may possibly hate them for the fact that they are lost and without God?


God is love. Is He not? Discuss.

He is not. Read the Bible, troll.

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[somerandomperson3]

Re: God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

If he didn't love everybody, why would he send his son to die on the cross for everybody?

Because he loves everybody. The way you interpret the bible sickens me. He definitely hates when we sin, but he does not hate the sinner himself. If he did, he wouldn't be so merciful, like the bible mentions oh so much in Psalms.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

If he didn't love everybody, why would he send his son to die on the cross for everybody?

Because he loves everybody. The way you interpret the bible sickens me. He definitely hates when we sin, but he does not hate the sinner himself. If he did, he wouldn't be so merciful, like the bible mentions oh so much in Psalms.

Well why don't you go ahead and show us where we've gone wrong. Quote the verses we got wrong, and explain the correct meaning.

You can't expect us to just accept your unsaved heathen word for it. We follow the Word of God.

Now take a look at this.

Jesus DID NOT die for everyone

He died for those that BELIEVE.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.

[revrggreen]

Re: God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

[quote=somerandomperson3;126243]I would like to consider these organizations a way to blind people into believing the wrong thing about what God is truly about.
quote]

Heathen,

It would seem to me that it is YOU who do not know what God is truly about. So let me shed some light here -

As GOD HATES GOTHS website creator, and leader of the Parents Against Goth Organization, I am greatly angered that I must defend myself and my Christian beliefs on these Godly forums, from worthless trash like you.

Yes, many who come to this website complain that it is full of hate. They call me a bully, a bigot, a lunatic and a racist. Well, that could not be further from the truth. I do not have a racist bone in my body, nor do I mean to put anyone down. This website is full of salvation - for those who choose to accept it. Still, they say to me 'Hey dude, you say God hates this and God hates that, ain't you Christians meant to be all about love an shit?'

Well of course we are all about love - for those who deserve it. But with so many liberal preachers feeding these people bullshit and lies, someone has to come out and tell these children the truth - even if they don't want to hear it.

Half the Goths I have spoken to over these past 10 years tell me the same pathetic thing. That God loves them. That they can dress whatever way they choose, listen to Satanic music all they want, drink human blood, worship Satan and stick broken glass up their own rectums, and they will still go to Heaven. Friends, that is just plain nonsense. If God loved everyone no matter what, then who would be burning in Hell with all the negros? And that is why our society is going to Hell - because of these lying pathetic liberal preachers telling people what they wanted to hear, not the truth that they needed to hear. The truth that God is not just about love and forgiveness for those who deserve it, but he is also full of hate and repulsion for those who have angered him. See, not just negros go to Hell, but all jews, wiccans, buddhists, fags, queers, pagans, retards and similar trash, and an estimated 99.9999% of all women go to Hell too! In truth, God can't wait to cast these filthy reprobates into the fiery pits of Hell! Halleluja!

The sooner people get these Bible misinterpretations and lies out their heads the better. That is what's damning this World to Hell. Believing God loves people no matter what. Believing that God only hates sin. Believing that Christ died for everyone and everyone gets into Heaven. These liberals are nothing but Satanists in Christian clothing!

Yes, Jesus went among whores and drunkards, but I do not remember him going up to open Satanists and witches who cursed God's name and spat profanities unto the Holy ghost (The most unforgivable sin). That's what Marilyn Manson (self-proclaimed Antichrist and spokesman for these Goth creatures) does at his concerts, he urges his young blindly-lead teenaged fans to curse the Holy Spirit, knowing that they are committing a sin the Bible teaches will not be forgiven by the Lord. While other spokesmen for the Goth way of life, such as the Goth band 'cradle of filth' print shirts for fans to wear with slogans like "Jesus is a c*nt" and "f*ck your God". Do you think God is happy with this hate for him being spread among children? Remember as men of God we have the authority to judge these people if we judge them righteously. With God's judgement.

But the main thing wrong here is that so many false preachers are filling these children's heads with nonsense and utter trash. People should fear God! They should fear what awaits them if they turn their back on him! They should fear Hell, not look forward to it! Is it wrong is to deny that God hates people? He may not hate everyone, but to say he hates only sin is vastly ignoring many Biblical teachings. Do you really think God loves everyone no matter what?

So many of these freaks quote John 3:16 at me, with no idea what it really means (And completely ignoring John 3:17-18). Yes, God loves the WORLD. Not every single human being, the WORLD. As in the Planet he created, from the plants to the trees to the animals to the water and air. It NEVER EVER means every individual of mankind who has ever lived! (which is apparent from John 17:9).


Romans 9:13 says that God hated Esau, and Psalm 5:5 says that God hates all WORKERS of iniquity (e.g., Satanists, witches, people who engage in sick perversions). Other examples are Proverbs 6:16-19, Psalm 11:5, and Malachi 1:3. Given these verses, how can you say God loves everyone? Or God only hates sin, not the sinner. Can you really say, "God loves everyone" when God says, "I hated Esau?" Does God love the people in hell?

See, this is the main problem here - so many people think that 'Hate the sin, not the sinner' means that God does not hate anyone. But the reality is that God does not hate people who merely sin, but he does hate people who indulge in 'iniquity'. It is the difference between sin and iniquity that decides Gods love or hate for that person. This is something so many Christians have misunderstood. Hate not the sinner, but hate all those who are workers of iniquity. There is a fine line between a forgivable sin and an unforgivable iniquitous sin. God hates all workers of iniquity. It's really THAT simple.

Then they quote "God is love" at me. God certainly is love, toward His elect (His children - the ones he has chosen to save). But He certainly is not love toward the reprobate (children of the devil). That's why His elect go to heaven, and the reprobate go to hell. In Romans 9:13, which says "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated", Jacob is a representative of God's elect, while Esau is a representative of the reprobate.


In conclusion, I feel the real reason we have this sickness in our society is because of the liberalism in faith, which is destroying our faith from within. And it is heathens like YOU who question God's devine and righteous hatred that cause this sickness. The more people think they can get away with anything, the worse our World falls. If we are to win this war on the young, we must tell them it like it is! God hates you, you worthless piece of trash, and unless you change you will end up screaming in agony at the very pits of Hell! The skin will burn off your bones, eyes melt in your sockets, as you scream in agony till the end of time! Is it really worth it? That's what these children need. The truth. Not some sugar coated lie.

In Christ,

Rev RG Green
God's Hammer

[somerandomperson3]

Re: God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

I understand that we shouldn't sugarcoat what the bible says. It clearly states that the ones who don't believe will go to Hell. I know that.

But it will not get through my head that God "hates" somebody for being a sinner. You cannot be a sinner one day, be hated by God, then the next day accept God as your only savior, and then have God love you because you chose to follow his path and believe in him and what not.

He says he loves this world, and in the beginning he also created human, meaning he loves all human also.

I just think the way you guys interpret the bible is kind of.. Strange. You guys are on the right track of everything, and whatever, sugarcoating things is no acceptable, I get it, people need to get the right information. But discouraging others by saying "Oh God hates you because you are a fag." is not a way of preaching to them or to have them feel convinced that God is the right way.


And I would like for you to not judge me as garbage, for God can only judge me, and he is the only one who knows me. Not any of you.


And just so you know, I skimmed through what you wrote because I am not going to take all the time to read what I already know or what I think is completely ignorant. We should love one another like stated in the bible. We should care for the non-believers and for their salvation like mentioned in James (is it that one? I am only familiar with the names in spanish) chapter 5, referring to the last few verses.

I still go with the whole God is love. God will punish if he has to, since he is our father, why not? Just like our parents will punish us for doing wrong, sometimes he will. But he does it all out of love. I know the people who are non-believers aren't his, but God would want for everybody to be his, because he is the one who created humanity. Why would he hate his own creation?

[Miss Maisie]

Re: God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

God is love. Is He not? Discuss.

Matthew 10:34-38
34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.


Y'all should read the bible before making God out to be some pansy-buttocked wusstard, sugar.

[revrggreen]

Re: God hates gays, God hates goths, God...

But it will not get through my head that God "hates" somebody for being a sinner. You cannot be a sinner one day, be hated by God, then the next day accept God as your only savior, and then have God love you because you chose to follow his path and believe in him and what not.I just think the way you guys interpret the bible is kind of.. Strange.

What is strange about that? For loving someone, and that love turning to hate? Take for example if you have a son - and you love him. But then that son turns his back on you, shoots your wife, rapes your children, burns your house down and cuts off both your legs. Do you really think you would STILL love him after that? Are you retarded??

Another thing, when did I say that God hated anyone for being a sinner? Re-read what I have written. God does NOT hate the sinner, but he does HATE all who are WORKERS OF INIQUITY. As I said before, it is the difference between sin and iniquity. Re-read the Bible. It is a very simple belief.

For example, being a homosexual is a sin that God will forgive you for, IF you repent that sin. However, if you take that sin and elevate it into an iniquitous sin - then God will HATE YOU for that iniquity. An example of this is GAY PRIDE, as in taking a sin like faggotry, and elevating it to a pridful state. Pride in a sin is evil, and turns that sin into an iniquity. And as the Bible teaches, God hates ALL workers of iniquity (ie. Satanic sins, prideful sins, wickedness and idolatry)

I hope that is clear enough for you.