Tell me about Jesus!

[Caucasian_Male]

Hey, tell me about Jesus!

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

Dear Friend,

You have to get it right from the source.

Yours in Him,
bab

[sinner]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

Hey, tell me about Jesus!

Would you like to know about Jesus or Jesús?



"We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism ... we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today ... our battle is with Satan himself." -- Rev Jerry Falwell

[The Adversary]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

Hi, Caucasian_Male, for a church the Landover Baptists don't tend to waste time proselytizing to the Unsaved. This is for a few good reasons which will become apparent the more you learn.

So, since you haven't gotten many replies I will dispell a few misconceptions about Jesus.

His Jewish name was actually Jeshua ben Joseph, and he was a Mage. Since he was raised to be a powerful rabbi and could trace his ancestry back to King David, his existence caused a great amount of political consternation for those in power. He gained a reputation in his lifetime of being a great reformer of the Judaic Temple cults. By that I mean he put a stop to the swindling of pilgrims and the sacrificing of animals on Temple grounds for the atonement of sins. Ironically enough, after he was martyred, he became the embodiment of the Scapegoat System which was embraced by the Greeks and exported throughout the world.

Jesus' teachings in the Bible are quite interesting. False Christians say "Jesus wants peace." But Jesus said (Matthew 10:34)"I have come not to bring peace but a fiery sword" and (Luke12:49)"I have come to bring fire to the earth, and oh how I wish it were kindling already".

False Christians believe that Jesus is Love. But Jesus said (Luke 12:46)"If anyone does not hate his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

Ignorant Christians do not like hearing the ancient Hebrew Law outlined in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy. When they hear Bible verses endorsing slavery or commanding parents to stone their own children with stones, they say "Well, that's the Old Testament. I only believe in the New Testament because all I have to do is believe in Jesus and he rendered all the Old stuff obsolete." But Jesus said (Matthew 5:17-5:18) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law of Moses or the Prophets. In truth I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or letter will pass away from The Law."

Non-Christians who want to believe in a cool Jesus whose words of love and understanding have been twisted when he was deified like to say "Jesus was a hippie, communist Jew". But Jesus uses the Parable of the Harsh Master (Luke 19) to tell send a message that is quite the opposite of meek inheriting the earth or hippie commie values. In fact, the punchline is a solid endorsement of Reaganomics: 'The king replied, "I tell you that everyone who has will be given more, but from the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away."'

I hope that these passages give you insight on how to act next time you are advised to "be more Christ-like".

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

Hi, Caucasian_Male, for a church the Landover Baptists don't tend to waste time proselytizing to the Unsaved. This is for a few good reasons which will become apparent the more you learn.

So, since you haven't gotten many replies I will dispell a few misconceptions about Jesus.

His Jewish name was actually Jeshua ben Joseph, and he was a Mage.

I'd like to see Biblical evidence in support of that wild claim.

Jesus' teachings in the Bible are quite interesting. False Christians say "Jesus wants peace." But Jesus said (Matthew 10:34)"I have come not to bring peace but a fiery sword" and (Luke12:49)"I have come to bring fire to the earth, and oh how I wish it were kindling already".

False Christians believe that Jesus is Love. But Jesus said (Luke 12:46)"If anyone does not hate his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

Ignorant Christians do not like hearing the ancient Hebrew Law outlined in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy. When they hear Bible verses endorsing slavery or commanding parents to stone their own children with stones, they say "Well, that's the Old Testament. I only believe in the New Testament because all I have to do is believe in Jesus and he rendered all the Old stuff obsolete." But Jesus said (Matthew 5:17-5:18) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law of Moses or the Prophets. In truth I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or letter will pass away from The Law."

Non-Christians who want to believe in a cool Jesus whose words of love and understanding have been twisted when he was deified like to say "Jesus was a hippie, communist Jew". But Jesus uses the Parable of the Harsh Master (Luke 19) to tell send a message that is quite the opposite of meek inheriting the earth or hippie commie values. In fact, the punchline is a solid endorsement of Reaganomics: 'The king replied, "I tell you that everyone who has will be given more, but from the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away."'

I hope that these passages give you insight on how to act next time you are advised to "be more Christ-like".

All of that is spot-on. Well done, Mr. Adversary. You don't seem very adversarial today.

[The Adversary]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

I'd like to see Biblical evidence in support of that wild claim.
.

My evidence is rather simple. Jesus was tutored as a Mage; after all, he was visited in the manger by three of the Magi, and he was also indoctrinated in the Talmudic branch of Judaism. Although he gained a reputation later in life as a radical reformer, he was clearly a multiclass Rabbi/Mage. We can tell because he was known for performing some pretty keen magic tricks such as turning water into wine (arcane magic), multiplying fish and bread (arcane magic), walking on water (arcane magic), healing lepers (divine magic), and performing exorcisms (divine magic).

These are all pretty cool magicks; perhaps he was not quite as accomplished in the field as David Copperfield or Moses (I am personally more impressed by the parting of a sea and turning staves to snakes in cleric duels) but still his name went down in history for a reason.

[Caucasian_Male]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

Hi, Caucasian_Male, for a church the Landover Baptists don't tend to waste time proselytizing to the Unsaved. This is for a few good reasons which will become apparent the more you learn.

So, since you haven't gotten many replies I will dispell a few misconceptions about Jesus.

His Jewish name was actually Jeshua ben Joseph, and he was a Mage. Since he was raised to be a powerful rabbi and could trace his ancestry back to King David, his existence caused a great amount of political consternation for those in power. He gained a reputation in his lifetime of being a great reformer of the Judaic Temple cults. By that I mean he put a stop to the swindling of pilgrims and the sacrificing of animals on Temple grounds for the atonement of sins. Ironically enough, after he was martyred, he became the embodiment of the Scapegoat System which was embraced by the Greeks and exported throughout the world.

Jesus' teachings in the Bible are quite interesting. False Christians say "Jesus wants peace." But Jesus said (Matthew 10:34)"I have come not to bring peace but a fiery sword" and (Luke12:49)"I have come to bring fire to the earth, and oh how I wish it were kindling already".

False Christians believe that Jesus is Love. But Jesus said (Luke 12:46)"If anyone does not hate his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple."

Ignorant Christians do not like hearing the ancient Hebrew Law outlined in Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy. When they hear Bible verses endorsing slavery or commanding parents to stone their own children with stones, they say "Well, that's the Old Testament. I only believe in the New Testament because all I have to do is believe in Jesus and he rendered all the Old stuff obsolete." But Jesus said (Matthew 5:17-5:18) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law of Moses or the Prophets. In truth I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or letter will pass away from The Law."

Non-Christians who want to believe in a cool Jesus whose words of love and understanding have been twisted when he was deified like to say "Jesus was a hippie, communist Jew". But Jesus uses the Parable of the Harsh Master (Luke 19) to tell send a message that is quite the opposite of meek inheriting the earth or hippie commie values. In fact, the punchline is a solid endorsement of Reaganomics: 'The king replied, "I tell you that everyone who has will be given more, but from the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away."'

I hope that these passages give you insight on how to act next time you are advised to "be more Christ-like".

I wanted to see how well the Landover Baptists could answer. And they seem to have answered quite well so far.

[Caucasian_Male]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

His Jewish name was actually Jeshua ben Joseph

Actually, his Jewish name was Yeshua Ha'Mashiach. We just got Jesus Christ from when they were translating the Hebrew Bible over to Greek.

You fail.

[Born Once]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

The way hate is used in that verse is out of context. Biblical Hebrew didn't have the complexities of language that English has. Terms such as 'love more' and 'love less' and things such as 'first' and 'second' were taken to extremes like love and hate, and first and last. The comparative meaning of a lot of words were lost in translation as English has a more literal definition of words rather than associative meanings as was used in Hebrew.

[The Adversary]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

The way hate is used in that verse is out of context. Biblical Hebrew didn't have the complexities of language that English has. Terms such as 'love more' and 'love less' and things such as 'first' and 'second' were taken to extremes like love and hate, and first and last. The comparative meaning of a lot of words were lost in translation as English has a more literal definition of words rather than associative meanings as was used in Hebrew.

Mm,hmm. And John McCain "loves Gooks less" than the rest of us? Who decides when we should equivalate and when we should actually take the words at face value? You?

Also, if you namby pamby apologists were to rewrite the Bible in "more complex" language, wouldn't you have to soften the language in both directions?

John 3:16 "And God so liked the world that he gave his Son..."

[Nobar King]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

Jesus was clearly a multiclass Rabbi/Mage.

Someone's been playing too much WOW.

[The Adversary]

Re: Tell me about Jesus!

Someone's been playing too much WOW.

Nah, WoW is the Wal-Mart of computer games. lowest common denominator and all. Multiclassing like Christ would be too complex.

The only thing that game is good for is when True Christians™ use it to convert heathen Horde members.