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  • Hexsion
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    Under Investigation
    • Mar 2008
    • 1

    #1

    Anti-atheist Backlash

    I've noticed a recent trend on Rants and Raves where certain Christian posters are attacking atheists while strangely choosing to ignore all other brands of non-Christians. Why is this? Are these armchair disciples more concerned about saving an atheist's soul than that of a Buddhist, Hindu, Jew, or Muslim? Sounds fairly selective to me.

    I think I know what's going on here...

    These people aren't attacking all non-Christians because they can at least personally identify with somebody else's belief; regardless of whether or not they agree with it. They are allies in the same sense that members of two opposing armies can feel a comradery with one other.

    Rather, it is the non-belief of atheists that bothers them. These people have faith so thoroughly engrained in their lives that to see somebody without a trace threatens them. They simply cannot conceive of somebody not believing in a deity of some sort. The idea is completely foreign to them, and therefore menacing. It forces them to evaluate their own beliefs. They become defensive and attack because the things they hold intrinsically and unquestionably sacred are being challenged by the mere philosophical position of another.

    Most atheists do not "believe" that god does not exist. Rather, they dismiss it as a possibility due to a complete lack of evidence. Otherwise, they'd have to entertain the possibility of believing in anything and everything... which is the essential problem of agnosticism. Therefore, it does not take faith to be an atheist. If the evidence changes, then most would certainly be reasonable enough to revaluate their positions. Until then, the existence of god is simply a non-issue for them. Some theists have decried this materialistic position, but without much real avail. What possibilities are we losing if we only believe in things that leave evidence behind? Ghosts, leprechauns, fairies and gods... everything in the realm of the superstitious, but nothing else. I can comfortably live with that; just as a Christian can comfortably live with the idea of worshipping Jehovah but not Shiva.

    They accuse atheists of leading selfish, corrupt, and immoral lives without fear of consequences. They accuse atheists of lacking moral codes. This is, of course, irrational, fear-mongering nonsense. Today's atheist is not a self-indulgent modern Caligula or a Stalin. Today's atheist is not a socially maladjusted anarchist who lives their lives without fear of retribution. According to a 1997 statistic, only 0.209% of prisoners incarcerated in the United States identify as atheists. Since atheists currently represent roughly 14% of the overall U.S. population, this is a significant indicator of the "morality" of the modern atheist. Today's atheist tends to be a well-educated, productive member of society who more often than not subscribes to the notions of moral relativism and secular humanism... which essentially means that we realize we're all stuck on this big ball together and we must work to set aside our differences and build a better future, because it's all that there is. That doesn't sound at all like the monstrous picture that's recently been smeared here by certain self-proclaimed loving Christians.

    These rabid believers clash with atheists knowing perfectly well that they are helpless to alter the ideological perceptions of their perceived foe. Why then, do they choose to partake of this exchange of bad blood? Because they're angry and they're frightened. They're angry because we have the nerve to indirectly challenge their insecurely-held beliefs with our continued existence. They're frightened because they fear that they're losing their foothold on the theocratic monopolization of America (school prayer, Christian-oriented legislature, etc.)... an officially secular country, mind you.

    Lashing out, spreading lies and misconceptions, and demonizing the enemy is a natural way to react to opposition; however contrary to the teachings of their professed lord and savior. Any anti-atheist backlash you're witnessing here is simply the result of reactionary mean-spiritedness, and nothing more. The misinformation is a sign of desperation. I suppose they believe what they're saying is true in the same sense that many Muslim fundamentalists believe that America is directly in league with the devil. Feeling "right" about the subjective tends to breed violent paranoia when challenged. Mind the danger in that whatever you choose to believe.

    I can't say that some atheists aren't guilty of the same indiscretion, but it's a generalization to categorize all atheists this way just as it's a generalization to categorize all Christians as rabid fundamentalists. I've been careful to avoid doing so here, despite the disrespect shown us by some members of the Christian community.

    Personally, I'm a firm believer in live-and-let-live. I believe Christ was too. I don't attack others for their beliefs. I don't even ask that others question their beliefs. Everyone has a right to decide what they hold dear. I don't write slanderous, inaccurate or inflammatory material about adherents of any religion. But I do defend my positions, because I hold them dear. I find it completely abhorrent that those who attack mine do so under the protective woolen guise of love and fellowship. It allows them to appear to hold the upper hand while hitting below the belt. The atheist in America is already a misunderstood and hated underdog, and people tend to ignore the callous disregard they are often shown by these "gentle lambs of God." Were it not for atheists being their current preferred cannon fodder, I'm certain these unyielding fanatics would be baring their claws and coming for you other non-Christians and moderates next. Watch your step.
  • Nobar King
    Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
    Christ's Guardian
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2007
    • 23748

    #2
    Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

    Plagiarists like you aren't welcome here. RRINGGG!! Hear that bell? It means recess is over.
    May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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    • Virginia Day Templeton
      Christ's Battle Axe
       
      • Dec 2006
      • 2827

      #3
      Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

      Did anybody actually read that tome?

      And what was this guy doing on Craig's List in the first place? Looking for hot zombie sex, I assume.
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      • Talitha
        Deaconess
        Gracious, genteel, kind, tender, and warm True Christian™ Sister
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2025
        • 15118

        #4
        Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

        Originally posted by Virginia D. Templeton View Post
        Did anybody actually read that tome?

        And what was this guy doing on Craig's List in the first place? Looking for hot zombie sex, I assume.
        TLDR

        Sister Talitha

        Markswoman, Circumcisionist, Platinum Tither.


        HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
        being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41



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        • Brother Temperance
          Senior Usher
          True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
          A very nice young man
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 15621

          #5
          Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

          Originally posted by Hexsion View Post
          Today's atheist is not a socially maladjusted anarchist who lives their lives without fear of retribution.
          That's just a flat-out lie. Ok, the smarter ones know that God exists, and so a few of them are socially maladjusted anarchists who live their lives in fear of God's inevitable retribution, but still...
          O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



          God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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          • One-eyed Jack
            True Christian™
            True Christian™
            • Nov 2007
            • 1092

            #6
            Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

            Well, I'll answer the polemic as if it was not plagiarized.

            Christians know that atheists are not disinterested unbelievers. They are not that at all.

            The author and controller of atheism is Satan!

            Now, Satan is a fallen angel. He knows perfectly well that God does exist!

            Atheists, like their master, know that God exists -- but they will never ever say so. Satan constructed atheism as a purposeful lie. Atheists will deny to your face that God exists, and they will deny that Satan exists, but they know different: they have just made up their minds to hate God and deny Him.

            (This exegesis is not my original thought; one version can be found at Ten Commandments.)

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            Now, as far as other faiths -- obviously they are in error, and their followers are assured of DAMNATION! Eternal torment awaits them! Praise the Mercy of Jesus, they will get the agony and the horrors they deserve.

            Hindus are BLASPHEMERS who deny the One God. Jews and Muslims deny that Jesus was God's incarnation upon the dark and sin-wracked Earth. They shall BURN! And the smoke of their burning shall arise forever!

            Buddhists are SPIRITUAL NIHILISTS! Nothing exists for the Buddhist but the Void (which sounds like something that your bladder does). They will find out soon enough that they should have FEARED the Lord! Jesus said, FEAR Him! Fear Him who hath the power to cast your soul into EVERLASTING TORMENT!

            Shout Glowry! For God so loves the world that He shall burn unrepentant sinners forever!

            Now, as to Mormons, Scientologists, and Raelians, they're simply deluded. They celebrate madmen as prophets, and honor the utterances of FOOLS! On the great Day of Reckoning the Lord's eye shall not pass over them, and His wrath shall not spare them. Their souls are LOST! They will BURN!

            And don't get me started on UNITARIANS!. Evil, pure evil.

            ~~ OEJ

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            • Peter McKain
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              • Apr 2008
              • 35

              #7
              Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

              Atheists are just the descenters of God who don't have the discipline to meet his expectations and instead choose to deny him out of fear of their inevitable punishment.

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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78551

                #8
                Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

                Originally posted by Peter McKain View Post
                Atheists are just the descenters of God who don't have the discipline to meet his expectations and instead choose to deny him out of fear of their inevitable punishment.
                In other words, they're immoral cowards. I'll have to agree with you there, Petey.
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                • Peter McKain
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                  • Apr 2008
                  • 35

                  #9
                  Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

                  Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                  In other words, they're immoral cowards. I'll have to agree with you there, Petey.
                  You choose superior words but your recognition is greatly appreciated wise pastor. I shall thank god for the privilege (no sarcasm)

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                  • Ahimaaz Smith
                    True Christian™
                    True Christian™
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 2549

                    #10
                    Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

                    Originally posted by Hexsion View Post
                    certain Christian posters are attacking atheists while strangely choosing to ignore all other brands of non-Christians.
                    Hexsion, you've got that completely wrong. We spend plenty of time lashing out at Catholics, Mohammedians, Jews, Mormons, Episcopaleans, Scientologists, Wiccans, Unitarians (who themselves are often Wiccans), members of other cults, and even other Baptists who seem to be backsliding into liberal politics and theology.

                    We don't see Catholicism (for example) and say, well, at least they believe in God, they're on the right path. We see hellbound sinners who need to be saved, and hell-sent doctrines that need to be annihilated. If you see us going soft on our fellow "Christians," point it out to us and we will surely correct that mistake.

                    Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name.... Jeremiah 10:25

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                    • Pastor Isaac Peters
                      Senior Pastor
                      Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
                      Always Biblically correct
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 10639

                      #11
                      Re: Anti-atheist Backlash

                      Dear Hexnut:

                      How did you manage to overlook this forum?
                      This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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