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  • Jacques Anape
    Unsaved Trash Undercover Papist
     
    • Jun 2008
    • 96

    #1

    God loves EVERYONE

    It seems that some false teaching is perpetuated by several posters on this board, namely that God hates sinners.

    This teaching is NOT Biblical. Any person who has taken time to read and understand the Word of God knows that its greatest theme is love. We are told that God is love and this is evidenced by the fact that Christ died for us while we were still sinners (Romans 5:6-8). This rich young man in Mark 10 was 'loved' by Jesus, even though he was clearly lost, and that wonderful verse, John 3:16, means that each and every one of you can be confident that God loves the WHOLE WORLD.

    So what of the verse that I have seen quoted here, all too often, by those who think of God as some kind of vengeful, hateful monster in the sky, waiting to strike us down? The verse in question in Psalm 5:5 which says that God hates "all workers of iniquity". This verse needs to be read carefully in context. You need to remember that the book of Psalms is a collection of memoirs - the psalmists are expressing their own feelings - NOT doctrinal truths. Certainly nowhere in the New Testament does it say that God hates sinners. If it did, this would flatly contradict John 3:16. And I assume you guys would consider the Word of God as inerrant?
    In Christ there is no East or West,
    In Him no South or North;
    But one great fellowship of love
    Throughout the whole wide earth.
    (W A Dunkerley, 1852-1941)
  • Pastor Isaac Peters
    Senior Pastor
    Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
    Always Biblically correct
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 10639

    #2
    Re: God loves EVERYONE

    Originally posted by Jacque_Strapp View Post
    So what of the verse that I have seen quoted here, all too often, by those who think of God as some kind of vengeful, hateful monster in the sky, waiting to strike us down? The verse in question in Psalm 5:5 which says that God hates "all workers of iniquity". This verse needs to be read carefully in context. You need to remember that the book of Psalms is a collection of memoirs - the psalmists are expressing their own feelings - NOT doctrinal truths.
    Really?

    2 Tim. 3:16: All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Which part of "All" requires extensive exegesis? I think you've clearly admitted to being a cafeteria Christian.

    Certainly nowhere in the New Testament does it say that God hates sinners. If it did, this would flatly contradict John 3:16. And I assume you guys would consider the Word of God as inerrant?
    We consider the entire Word of God as inerrant. You plainly do not. Anyway, let's look at John 3:16 in context:

    John 3:16-18 (emphasis added): For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    That is, in order to refute the fluffy-bunny misreading of John 3:16, we have to read down all of two more verses. In one post, you've denied the Divine inspiration of the Psalms and advanced an interpretation of Scripture that makes it appear as though it contradicted itself, something that God's Perfect Word just cannot do.
    This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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    • Walter Brimstone
      On Permanent Assignment in Borneo
      BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
      • Jul 2008
      • 188

      #3
      Re: God loves EVERYONE

      Hey, you finally got something right, give the guy a cookie. God hates sin and sinners. Also anyone who has REALLY read The KJV 1611 (every line and every page) knows the real truth about how God hates the sin and sinner.

      Psalm 1:5 is one example: Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

      Psalm 104:35 is another example:
      Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.

      These are just two examples and I could quote a hundred more. Son, don't be trying to sugarcoat things for your own ends.

      In Him,

      Walter Brimstone

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      • Glendora Christianson
        Spiritual Mother of LBC
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 2329

        #4
        Re: God loves EVERYONE

        Originally posted by Jacque_Strapp View Post
        It seems that some false teaching is perpetuated by several posters on this board, namely that God hates sinners.

        This teaching is NOT Biblical. Any person who has taken time to read and understand the Word of God knows that its greatest theme is love. We are told that God is love and this is evidenced by the fact that Christ died for us while we were still sinners (Romans 5:6-8). This rich young man in Mark 10 was 'loved' by Jesus, even though he was clearly lost, and that wonderful verse, John 3:16, means that each and every one of you can be confident that God loves the WHOLE WORLD.

        So what of the verse that I have seen quoted here, all too often, by those who think of God as some kind of vengeful, hateful monster in the sky, waiting to strike us down? The verse in question in Psalm 5:5 which says that God hates "all workers of iniquity". This verse needs to be read carefully in context. You need to remember that the book of Psalms is a collection of memoirs - the psalmists are expressing their own feelings - NOT doctrinal truths. Certainly nowhere in the New Testament does it say that God hates sinners. If it did, this would flatly contradict John 3:16. And I assume you guys would consider the Word of God as inerrant?
        BEWARE FOLKS! This is the kind of feel-good, money making stuff that we at LBC are trying to save folks from! The New Testament contains an equal number of verses that prescribe cruelty and violence against sinners as the Old Testament. Furthermore, the New Testament contains 151 verses that clearly show intolerance towards folks who question GOD's word as archived in the Holy Bible...

        2John 1:9... "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God."

        And I think that's all that needs to be said on this dangerous subject, but I'll remind folks that if you don't believe the whole Bible, you are nothing more than a false Christian.
        Jesus - gentle, dependable overnight relief.

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        • Walter Brimstone
          On Permanent Assignment in Borneo
          BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
          • Jul 2008
          • 188

          #5
          Re: God loves EVERYONE

          Amen!!

          In Him,

          Walter Brimstone

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78553

            #6
            Re: God loves EVERYONE

            God doesn't love everybody:

            Proverbs 6
            [16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
            [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
            [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
            [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.



            And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

            Matthew 13
            [38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
            [39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
            [40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
            [41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
            [42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.



            And God commands us to hate those whom He hates. Glory!!

            Psalm 139:19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
            20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
            21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
            22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • SUV
              True Christian™ Princess
              The Driving Force behind RA12
              Have at it, anytime!
              • Sep 2006
              • 11027

              #7
              Re: God loves EVERYONE

              News to me, sinner! God even went and Crucified His Own Son!

              Oh, joy Yet another touchy-feely "Christian" comes here to skip & giggle all through the Bible and our Godly Board.

              Son, you wouldn't happen to be a little "Light in the Loafers" now, would you?

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              • Billybob Sunday
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Jul 2008
                • 261

                #8
                Re: God loves EVERYONE

                Brother Jacques,

                I am amazed that you can be a fellow Baptist and yet believe all of these heresays!

                God sent Jesus to Earth not just to allow people to come live with him in Heaven, but also so that he could cast all of the sinners into Hell for eternal torture. The only way to Heaven is by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior, but this message was only given to White Europeans. For two thousand years God and his Son have been gleefully hurling BILLIONS of little slant-eyed yellow-skinned chinks into Hell, people who didn't have the opportunity to accept or deny Jesus because they never even heard of him. Do you seriously think God loves them? Same goes with the Black Africans, Brown-skinned Injuns in both Asia and the Americas, and those sand negras who follow that false prophet Mahomet. All going to Hell, brother! If you aren't a white person born in a Christian nation, finding Jesus and getting to Heaven is quite a task! The only sane conclusion is that God just doesn't care too much for those other folks.

                Praise Jesus!

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                • Jacques Anape
                  Unsaved Trash Undercover Papist
                   
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 96

                  #9
                  Re: God loves EVERYONE

                  Originally posted by Billybob Sunday View Post
                  this message was only given to White Europeans.
                  Really? How many white Europeans lived in first century Palestine?

                  Originally posted by Billybob Sunday View Post
                  For two thousand years God and his Son have been gleefully hurling BILLIONS of little slant-eyed yellow-skinned chinks into Hell, people who didn't have the opportunity to accept or deny Jesus because they never even heard of him. Do you seriously think God loves them? Same goes with the Black Africans, Brown-skinned Injuns in both Asia and the Americas, and those sand negras who follow that false prophet Mahomet.
                  I cannot believe that someone who professes to know the Lord can write such racist and intolerant nonsense. Jesus Himself was a 'sand negra'- ever thought of that?
                  In Christ there is no East or West,
                  In Him no South or North;
                  But one great fellowship of love
                  Throughout the whole wide earth.
                  (W A Dunkerley, 1852-1941)

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                  • Pastor Isaac Peters
                    Senior Pastor
                    Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
                    Always Biblically correct
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 10639

                    #10
                    Re: God loves EVERYONE

                    Originally posted by Jacque_Strapp View Post
                    I cannot believe that someone who professes to know the Lord can write such racist and intolerant nonsense. Jesus Himself was a 'sand negra'- ever thought of that?
                    Unlike you, Billybob Sunday is relying on sound Biblical theology — ever thought of that? Explain, citing Scripture, how people who have never heard of Jesus can accept Him as their Lord and Savior and be saved.
                    This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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