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  • Jacques Anape
    Unsaved Trash Undercover Papist
     
    • Jun 2008
    • 96

    #1

    We are NOT under the law

    Some of the comments that have alarmed me most of this board relate to a belief in some quarters that the Law of the Old Testament is somehow applicable today. The burning of witches, stoning of children, the slaughter of unbelievers, the necessity of tithing, and the uncleanliness of women are just some of the things that have caught my eye in recent days.

    Well, how many of you enjoy a good hog roast? And what about that t-shirt that is made from 80% cotton and 20% polyester? And as for your mortgage - don't you know that charging interest is against the Law, as well as eating pork and wearing mixed fabrics?

    Seems to me there's some cherry-picking going on here.

    LBC is the only Baptist church I have ever heard of that fails to accept the difference between the requirements of the Old Testament Law and the New Covenant of grace. Scripture plainly teaches that the we can gain no favor whatsoever by sabbath-keeping, tithing, etc. We are no longer in bondage to the law, but are liberated from it and saved by grace (Ephesians 1: 7-10).As Christians, we are changed from children of the devil to children of God. We now walk in the new nature which naturally keeps THE SPIRIT of the Law of God, by nature (2 Cor:3-6). We are no longer under supervision of the law (Galatians 3:24-25).



    This belief in the applicability of Old Testament law to contemporary society is not only theologically unsound, but it is downright blasphemous. Christ fulfilled the law on dying on the cross. To say that the law still stands is like saying Christ's sacrifice wasn't quite good enough. The Bible goes so far to say that those who live under the Law are CURSED (Galatians 3:10).

    So I would ask the relevant contributors who spend some time today readings Galatians 3 and Ephesians 1. Read prayerfully, and with an open mind, and the Lord will guide you. In the meantime, please STOP using the law as a measuring stick for how 'Christian' folks are, because I've a feeling there aren't too many members of LBC who would measure up.

    God Bless,
    Jacques.
    In Christ there is no East or West,
    In Him no South or North;
    But one great fellowship of love
    Throughout the whole wide earth.
    (W A Dunkerley, 1852-1941)
  • Walter Brimstone
    On Permanent Assignment in Borneo
    BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
    • Jul 2008
    • 188

    #2
    Re: We are NOT under the law

    "So I would ask the relevant contributors who spend some time today readings Galatians 3 and Ephesians 1."

    First off, Chimp, I am going to say this. We don't read just the verses you just mention, we read the entire book.

    "In the meantime, please STOP using the law as a measuring stick for how 'Christian' folks are, because I've a feeling there aren't too many members of LBC who would measure up."

    Second of all, you are not in any position to be judging anyone on how they conduct themselves.

    Check this verse out, Matthew 7:1 - Judge Not, That ye be not judged.

    LBC is not here to live up to YOUR standards. It's God's standards that matter the most.

    In Him,

    Walter Brimstone

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    • Brother Enoch
      The Godliest Man in Godless Canuckistan
      True Christian™
      • Jun 2008
      • 4392

      #3
      Re: We are NOT under the law

      Sorry Jacque, I'm having difficulty deciphering your post - I don't speak french.

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      • Pastor Rune Enoe
        Apostle of the North
         
        • Sep 2006
        • 11680

        #4
        Re: We are NOT under the law

        Originally posted by Jacque_Strapp View Post
        Well, how many of you enjoy a good hog roast? And what about that t-shirt that is made from 80% cotton and 20% polyester? And as for your mortgage - don't you know that charging interest is against the Law, as well as eating pork and wearing mixed fabrics?

        Seems to me there's some cherry-picking going on here.
        Friend, as a True Christian™ I let my Lord Jesus pick the cherries for me. Praise!

        Let's have a look, shall we?
        • Jesus told me "that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;" (Mark 7:12-23 and parallel). That's why I'm allowed to grab myself some ham hocks, whenever I hunger.
        • Jesus has no problem with mortgages either - remember the parable of the talents? "Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury." (Matthew 25:27)

        • However Jesus has never abrogated the commandment against mixing fibers, so when He returns "clothed with a vesture dipped in blood" (Revelation 19:13) His bloodied vesture will surely be made of 100% cotton. Praise the Lord on high.


        Originally posted by Jacque_Strapp View Post
        The Bible goes so far to say that those who live under the Law are CURSED (Galatians 3:10
        Really? Galatians 3:10 says the opposite in my Bible: [. . .] Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. (my emphasis)

        See? You must follow all of God's laws (KJV1611), or you're cursed.

        Now it's your turn: Please point out, where Jesus tells us that we can use 75% of the Bible (i.e. The Old Testament) as toilet paper.

        Please point out, where Jesus tells us that The Ten Commandments are null and void.
        A wise man’s heart inclines him to the right, but a fool’s heart to the left. (Ecclesiastes 10:2)

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        • Brother Temperance
          Senior Usher
          True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
          A very nice young man
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 15621

          #5
          Re: We are NOT under the law

          Originally posted by Avatar View Post
          Sorry Jacque, I'm having difficulty deciphering your post - I don't speak french.
          It would appear this particular surrender monkey wants us to surrender to Satan.
          O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



          God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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          • Virginia Day Templeton
            Christ's Battle Axe
             
            • Dec 2006
            • 2827

            #6
            Re: We are NOT under the law

            Matthew 5:18
            For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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            • VictoryOS
              True Christian™ Beauty Queen
               
              • Dec 2007
              • 5388

              #7
              Re: We are NOT under the law

              Originally posted by Jacque_Strapp View Post
              And what about that t-shirt that is made from 80% cotton and 20% polyester?
              You seem to have an intense interest in what we wear, you pervert.
              Let Jesus Christ Wash You Clean
              in 2016

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              • Pastor Ezekiel
                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                 
                • Sep 2006
                • 78556

                #8
                Re: We are NOT under the law

                Looks like another antiChrist has been bodyslammed by the Holy Spirit! Glory!!!
                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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