[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Stop the FBI From Seizing Trump Documents Stored in Secret Places

There is a way to end quickly this controversy. The documents were in possession of President Trump. Then they were taken against his will by the Federal Government. The most accurate word is "stolen." So, the government now has possession and will not give them back. What to do?

The way out of this is to call Sothebys in New York City. They are purveyors of fine art and important objects of all kinds. Sothebys will place a value on every document. The Federal Government can then write a check to Trump, problem solved.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Stop the FBI From Seizing Trump Documents Stored in Secret Places

The DOJ and FBI are cranking out propaganda daily. They do not understand they are up against the smartest man in the universe who will best them for sure.

The unsubstantiated gossip among lawyers who do this kind of work is the entire search could have been avoided and Trump received immunity from prosecution by simply returning all the documents on first request.

They do not understand cooperating with DOJ was never an option. Trump has been mad at the Dept of Justice since the 1970's over issues about his property holdings. He is unable to cooperate with them because they have treated him badly. Even his own head of the DOJ, Sessions, turned against him and wanted an issue studied before he was fired. Now, so-called experts are saying, Trump's lawyers have committed federal offenses and will have to testify against their client, Trump, to save themselves from jail. The same know-it-alls say obstruction of justice charges being prepared against Trump and his current attorneys are easy to win.

This is just like the election of 2016. Everyone thought Hillary would defeat Trump. Then, bingo, Trump won. This is what we can look forward with all this legal double talk. Trump is the pool shark who plays like a man with a broken arm. He looks like he is losing until the money is big enough and then goes for the kill.

Opinion | Trump’s Lawyers Might Think They Just Won. They Still Botched the Case. - POLITICO

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Stop the FBI From Seizing Trump Documents Stored in Secret Places

The justice system is not completely fake news, thankfully. The nice lady judge that Trump appointed after he lost the election in the district that he lives in has granted him a solid piece of justice. She is appointing a "special master" to decide on all 11,000 documents seized from Mar-a-lago. I had a special master once, at boarding school. He gave very special attention to the younger boys, whom he personally coached in his private quarters after hours.

The shortlist is full of distinguished statesmen but my moneyshot will be on Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert for his ability to probe the deepest and the longest.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Stop the FBI From Seizing Trump Documents Stored in Secret Places

The shortlist is full of distinguished statesmen but my moneyshot will be on Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert for his ability to probe the deepest and the longest.

Dr. Tooley, you hit a bull's eye with that one. Dennis Hastert is a powerful voice in Trump's corner. Not only does he have Christian and anti-abortion credentials, he was the unjust victim of criminal prosecution. After paying a former high school student of his huge sums to keep quiet, the student turned on his former wrestling coach. Like Donald Trump, Dennis Hastert has good reason to do battle with law enforcement.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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This is news just hitting the wires. When FBI agents searched Trump's bedroom in Mar-a-Largo, they did not remove their shoes. This has angered the President so much I'm certain he will take action.

The search was illegal to begin with. Now we learn agents were sloppy individuals who did not respect the cleanliness and concern with germs held by the President. This entire matter surely will put some in the FBI in jail.

Trump goes on late-night Truth Social rant in first return to Mar-a-Lago after FBI raid | Salon.com

[Dennis Lukes]

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This entire matter surely will put some in the FBI in jail.

I'd like to see Attorney General Merrick Garland imprisoned for this. He was Obama's accomplice in the murder of Antonin Scalia and he needs to be punished.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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The search was illegal to begin with. Now we learn agents were sloppy individuals who did not respect the cleanliness and concern with germs held by the President

This situation reminds me so much of the time the Secret Service, sworn to take a bullet for Jared and Ivanka, wanted to use the 5th or 6th spare bathroom in their rented mansion. Disgusting! The thought of workers defecating on the premises was too much and they we ended up paying $3000/mo for access to a bathroom nearby so the servicemen could go away, do their nasty business and come back to protect the lives of our appointed special advisors.

The reward is not so much the paycheck as the knowledge one is serving a higher cause.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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We at Landover Baptist have always said Trump is so smart his mind is like a steel trap. Others think they can debate him, but he returns with arguments so brilliant the game is ended immediately.

An example is what he said recently to Sean Hannity. The question was whether Trump had gone through the steps needed to declassify all those documents he took the Mar-a-Largo. Trump correctly explained the President does not need to go through the traditional declassification steps. He can simply say a document has been declassifies.

Then, he went further. He said if he had not told anyone a document was declassified it was declassified if he merely thought about it. That put an end to all the legal arguments about declassifying documents. Those he had a Mar-a-Largo were declassified long ago when Trump thought about declassifying all documents.

Appeals Court Frees Justice Dept. to Use Sensitive Files Seized From Trump - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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Brother Mayor, as usual Trump has found a path forwards out of the quagmire. All he has to do is think that he's not guilty, then pretend he's not getting prosecuted and imagine he's not in jail. Some of out best leaders have been stark raving bonkers; Ronald Reagan, for one (space lasers lol).

[Dennis Lukes]

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Another great Republican president once said "If the president does something, it's not illegal." And that man's name was Donald Trump George W. Bush George Bush Ronald Reagan Richard Nixon, that's the one.

[handmaiden]

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. . .he said recently to Sean Hannity. The question was whether Trump had gone through the steps needed to declassify all those documents he took the Mar-a-Largo. Trump correctly explained the President does not need to go through the traditional declassification steps. He can simply say a document has been declassifies.

Then, he went further. He said if he had not told anyone a document was declassified it was declassified if he merely thought about it. That put an end to all the legal arguments about declassifying documents. . .

Appeals Court Frees Justice Dept. to Use Sensitive Files Seized From Trump - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Brother Mayor, I have seen a lot of so-called "humorists" poking fun at Donald Trump because he stated that through thought alone he could declassify documents. Many of those cruel, Satan-inspired people compare him to "Dr. X" from comic book fame.



But the joke is on them because the superhero that Trump really resembles is none other than Our Lord, Jesus Christ, Himself.


In the Gospel of Matthew, a Roman Centurion-- a government official-- comes to Jesus and asks Him to heal his servant who is suffering from a pretty serious medical problem. The man is paralyzed. When Jesus hears of this need, he doesn't start filling out forms or asking from some official seal to stamp a document provided by the Roman Governor or the Jewish temple big-wigs*.


No. He tells the petitioning party that his request has been fulfilled. And as the Bible clarifies, Jesus said it and it was done.


Now, if Jesus could use remote healing to cure a man of something as serious as full body paralysis, how hard would it be for a man so blessed of The Lord to use his mind to alter the designated status of a couple of documents? Is that really so hard to believe when you think about it in such a way?


But don't take my word for it, go to God's Word instead.

Matthew 8:5-13.

And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him,
And saying, Lord, my servant lieth at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented.
And Jesus saith unto him, I will come and heal him.
The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.
When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.


It's kind of obvious that the real problem here isn't with what Trump did. It's with people's lack of faith.

We find even more proof of Great Faith = Thinking gets the job done in Chapter 7 of the Gospel of Luke. As this verse confirms:


Luke 7:10

And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick.


I just don't know what more people need-- a signed affidavit? So much for faith. Trump deserves better than that.




* I could have sworn it was Jewish women who wore the big wigs, but what do I know? It's not in the Bible, so I tend to forget those sorts of details.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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I don't know if anyone noticed in the news recently another 2 documents were "allegedly" discovered at his property. "Apparently" none of Trump's lawyers will even sign a document to assert that all the documents have been returned. It's infuriating nobody will do their damn JOB anymore. Michael Cohen would have done it.

Some busybody also shut down the Special Master, a 150 year old man who was supposed to take all the time he needed ruminating on the consequences of the particulars of the ramifications. He's gone now. And judge Aileen who appointed him has been "ordered" to dismiss the lawsuit.

At some point we are going to have to consider prayers for the ex-President, escalating to thoughts and prayers at a later date. After that the options get dicey - I can call Barry at the gun range and arrange a meeting.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Stop the FBI From Seizing Trump Documents Stored in Secret Places

I don't know if anyone noticed in the news recently another 2 documents were "allegedly" discovered at his property. "Apparently" none of Trump's lawyers will even sign a document to assert that all the documents have been returned. .
And judge Aileen who appointed him has been "ordered" to dismiss the lawsuit.
At some point we are going to have to consider prayers for the ex-President, escalating to thoughts and prayers at a later date. After that the options get dicey - I can call Barry at the gun range and arrange a meeting.

My goodness, Dr. Toole, it does seem like those who lie, cheat and steal are getting the upper hand in their maneuvers against our beloved Donald Trump.

Trump is actually a President-in-Exile and needs these documents for decisions on urgent matters. It is not in the national interest to remove them from Mar a Largo.

Anyone who notices the huge crowds that attend his rallies knows he is still President.

[Dennis Lukes]

Re: Stop the FBI From Seizing Trump Documents Stored in Secret Places

Trump is actually a President-in-Exile and needs these documents for decisions on urgent matters. It is not in the national interest to remove them from Mar a Largo.

Anyone who notices the huge crowds that attend his rallies knows he is still President.

Yes! Trump is our leader in exile, like Charles De Gaulle. Brandon is the Nazi occupation. Anyone acknowledging him as president and working with him is a collaborator and will be dealt with ruthlessly when our de jure president is restored.

[Adam Fag]

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