[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Brexit in tatters - need Trump's help!

As to the rest of them, Ephesians 4:28 is the answer:

Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Sure I suppose you could follow that advice if you're a complete idiot but I would prefer to follow the advice already suggested earlier in the thread: sue the EU. Let's see - defamation, collusion, cease and desist, resisting arrest - and that's just for starters. Breach of the peace, drunk in charge, conduct unbecoming of a gentleman, fowl play. The lawyers can sort out the details - that's why we have them on retainer, right? I'm sure it's in the Bible somewhere to sue your neighbors. You can go look it up.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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Breach of the peace, drunk in charge, conduct unbecoming of a gentleman, fowl play.

Michelle Barnier has done many, many foolish things but I don't think she has yet dressed up as a chicken!

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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A new poll shows that popularity for Brexit has now reversed.

More than 100 seats that backed Brexit now want to remain in EU

The 632 seats in England, Scotland and Wales were examined for the study. It found that 112 had switched from Leave to Remain. The new analysis suggests there are now 341 seats with majority Remain support, up from 229 seats at the referendum.

Overall, the model puts Remain on 53% support, with 47% backing Leave.

Fortunately for those who live there, the UK is a democracy like the USA so government policy is decided by ideology and whatever the rich donors want rather than the fickle day-to-day whims of ignorant nobodies. That's why we've tried to repeal Obamacare as the top no. 1 govt priority despite a 17% approval rating for repeal. Ditto on pretty much every policy. It doesn't matter what they think. Brexit is safe.

Our central finding was this: Economic elites and interest groups can shape U.S. government policy — but Americans who are less well off have essentially no influence over what their government does.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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New developments!

Having been in the government before, during and after the Brexit vote, leading the Leave campaign and in charge of the UK's foreign affairs, Boris Johnson has finally decided to put his big ideas on the table. Shame he never thought of that when he was in the government before, during and after the Brexit vote, leading the Leave campaign and in charge of the UK's foreign affairs.

The big idea is that... well, actually not an idea as such. More of a snipe from the sidelines, that the UK is negotiating an exit deal with Brussels with a “white flag fluttering”. I'm sure this is a prelude to Boris announcing a bold plan that will crush the stinky foreigners and make everyone in Britain sick of winning so much. We can get a clue about his bold plan from 20 politicians calling themselves the StandUp4Brexit group that has vowed to tear up the EU negotiations to date. Hoorah!

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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As I see it, Angela Merkel accomplished what Hitler tried to do in WWII but without Panzers, the Luftwaffe, and Blitzkrieg - all she had to do was shave her mustache off. Of course you had to have your array of Vichy's and Quislings to lend a hand.

Meanwhile the British have become so distracted by homerism, wallowing in hedonism, and listening to Beatle's and ABBA music that they can't muster another Winston Churchhill to lead them out of their morass. It's no wonder they're trying to keep Trump out of the country.

After we whipped King George's butt, it's no wonder that the Brits don't have a Second Amendment - the average British citizen can't own guns. Trump should start up those Liberty Ships again and ship muskets to all the voters.

One the other hand I think I speak for all Americans, I don't particularly care to have my tax money do this for the third time. Trump should withdraw from NATO and let Putin have the whole thing - much like Roosevelt did at Yalta with Stalin.

[MitzaLizalor]

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Perhaps Britain could set out guidelines for former European states wishing to join the Commonwealth? There are a number of secessionist entities (sorry Frank, not your papal enclaves) anxious to throw off the yoke of tyranny.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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Perhaps Britain could set out guidelines for former European states wishing to join the Commonwealth? There are a number of secessionist entities (sorry Frank, not your papal enclaves) anxious to throw off the yoke of tyranny.

That is actually a promising idea, I'm surprized that Boris or Nigel haven't thought of it already. All Britain needs to do is announce they are creating a new trading bloc with the primary purpose of furthering the goals of Brexit. I'm convinced other countries will be so keen to sign up that they'll forfeit their existing obligations. This could possibly even threaten the integrity of the United States - some States (Alabama, Washington DC, Pennsylvania) might find they support Brexit so much that they'll secede from the Union in order to trade on Britain's terms. We are witnessing Greatness, people.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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That is actually a promising idea, I'm surprized that Boris or Nigel haven't thought of it already.

Sadly, Boris is very much occupied with negotiating his divorce settlement. I am not as enthusiastic about him as I used to be, since the man was blessed with Godly US citizenship and yet saw fit to renounce it. I have been told (by Someone Who Knows) that Nigel, having failed to get the country accepted as the 51st state, is still too busy trying to get it accepted as an organized but unincorporated dependent territory along the lines of the Northern Mariana Islands. The stalling-point on this is the word "organized", which the US rightly says cannot be applied to Britain at this time.

I think the only requirement for a country to be in the British Commonwealth is for it to have been conquered by Britain (with or without outside assistance) at some point in its history. Whether or not the country subsequently whooped Britain's ass is utterly irrelevant, as the British famously do not bear grudges. This would cover much of the Known World.

So, Sister Mitza, you may have found the solution! Such a shame you are not a man: with lateral thinking like yours, you would have done well in politics.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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Perhaps Britain could set out guidelines for former European states wishing to join the Commonwealth? There are a number of secessionist entities (sorry Frank, not your papal enclaves) anxious to throw off the yoke of tyranny.

That sounds easy enough - just send some bloke over there and plant a Union Jack in all the EU capitols and they would all cave - starting with the flag waving French.

What I don't understand is all this "commonwealth" stuff - just sounds like more socialism to me.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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What I don't understand is all this "commonwealth" stuff - just sounds like more socialism to me.

Brother, in the context of the British commonwealth, it has always been taken literally: the wealth is common, in the sense of "What's yours is ours, what's ours is our own". So it's very much like, for example, my marriage settlement funds. These are entirely under the control of my husband, as is his own not-inconsiderable wealth. I see nothing controversial about that - it's simply common sense.

My husband tells me that the US uses the same term for its insular "organized but unincorporated territories". Assuming the term is used in the same way as in Britain, then if Puerto Rico turns out to be full of diamonds or oil, those assets belong to the USA. If the USA has a windfall, Puerto Rico can go whistle.

[MitzaLizalor]

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At least Puerto Rico is an island. But can you imagine having a land border with them? It seems strange that having the English Channel and North Sea (and Sealand of course) to repulse mercenaries who don't know what they're doing a sovereign nation would get in cahoots with the papists after fighting them off for 500 years.

How is that blond haired gentleman going? He seems so nicely spoken and with that twinkle in his eye would be just the ticket to stand up to idolators and heathens. I'd always noticed they intensify after Calais – never got much farther south than Zurich, which was very tidy.