Christian Values under attack!

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Brothers and Sisters,

I am sad to report that, yet again, the Christian Values upon which America (and, dare I say it, the world's dominant culture) is built! The liberals have introduced yet another bill to try to outlaw one's right to punish their children.

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A new bill wants to outlaw parents from spanking their children.

The reason for this infringement on our rights is this: the left wants our children to be raised with no discipline and to have no fear for adults (just like any democrat!). Truly, as the Bible states (numerous times, I might add -- the following is just a mild sampling):

13Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

13In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found: but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.

15Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

30The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

There are many more, and I would hope that any True Christian who has a child (hopefully 10!) will know these verses by heart!

Despite these orders to beat discipline our children, we are constantly regarded by the hopelessly homosexual left as dangerous and a threat to our young ones. How backwards is this?! We are regarded as dangerous for following God's Word?! My friends, society has its head so far up its own rump that it cannot even comprehend simple logic! Following the orders of an Omnipotent and Omniscient and, well, OmniOmni (all everything!) is as sane as it gets!

What else are they going to do next, are they going to take over and raise our children?

As stated here, the liberal left is trying to overtake our children! They are trying to kidnap the minds of our pure young children and brainwash them into believing such balderdash as you might find in any public school. Here is yet another reason to keep your kids out of the world, whether it be school, sports or marriage -- the government is just waiting at the nearest corner like a drunken old pedophile, waiting to rape your kids. And honestly, as much as we hate to say "I told you so" to America, we True Christians knew that this was coming as soon as the Democrats took over the government.

I suggest we pray that God protect our children from the homosexuals in the government right now (note: George W. Bush is not a homosexual -- I am speaking of the democrat-controlled branches). I can scarcely think of anything else I would want better right now than to catch me a few of those homosexuals, bend them over my lap, pull down their pants and spank the taught heinies until they are pink.... And until they realize the error of their God-and-America-hating ways.

It is a sad day in America, friends. Come quickly Lord Jesus!

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

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Oh, for the Rapture when this relentless persecution of True Christians™ will finally come to an end and these Godless heathens will finally get what's coming to them! Once I have my children, the lieberals will have to take my paddle out of my cold, dead hands.

[Rev. Dr. Davidson]

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There is an international treaty about this very subject. I'll try to find the link to show you good Christian people. There is another measure that goes so far as to have a "children's bill of rights".

The entire integrity of the family is under assault. The National Child Rights Alliance believes that civil rights apply to all people, including minor children. This organization has drawn up a document called the "Youth Bill of Rights". According to this document these rights are to be given to minor children:

"The Right to Liberty: No child shall be forced to live in any household against their will - this includes biologic as well as foster and adoptive households. No child shall be institutionalized against their will without due process rights.

The Right to Survival: All children have the right to adequate food, shelter, and medical care and a healthy environment. NCRA supports a free national healthcare system for children which is not dependent on parental income or parental consent.

The Right to Education: All children have a right to free education - including college and technical schools at the public expense.

The Right to Free Speech: All children have a right to free speech. This includes both in personal expression and in school-based and public media.

The Right to an Attorney: All children have the right to legal representation whereby the attorney acts as an attorney for - not guardian of - their clients."

If it were true, that these are rights that children should have, then this would be the total breakdown of parental influence or parental rights to raise their own child. Parents would not be able to ground or to discipline their child against their will because you cannot force a child to stay where he does not want to be! This is anarchy, not advocacy for children!!! Granted, this document has no legal or binding powers towards parents, but that is not so for the U.N. Treaty on the Rights of the Child, which will be discussed in detail in the Policy section of this paper.

1989 brought about the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child. This legislation has yet to be ratified by the U.S. congress, but it is only 9 votes away from being signed into law. In Missouri vs. Holland, the Supreme Court held that a treaty made by the president, with a 2/3 senate approval, is under the Supremacy Clause of Article VI, section 2, which makes the treaty the "Supreme Law of the Land".

This means that the U.N. treaty would become legally binding in all 50 states. All other laws pertaining to education and parental rights (which would conflict with the treaty) would be subject to invalidation. The United States Constitution would be secondary by law and the treaty the primary law of the land. (NCHE, 1995).

Exactly what is at stake if this treaty gets signed into law? Great Britain signed and ratified the treaty. A judgment issued by the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child have cited the country and put them in violation of the law on these counts:

* Home schooling would be banned unless the child consents (British judgment, p.3).

* Public school parents could not withdraw their children from sex education without the child's consent (British judgment, p.3).

* Parents are banned from spanking their children (British judgment, p.4)

* Juvenile offenders cannot be incarcerated for more than a few days, even for crimes like murder, rape, or carjacking. (British judgment, p4.)

* Private schools are banned from spanking children (British judgment, p4).

Once again we see massive government intervention into the family. What is more frightening about this policy is that it is an international treaty which would supercede our own country's existing laws on the fundamental rights of parents. Article 3 of the treaty states that in all actions concerning children, the courts, social services, and bureaucrats are empowered to regulate families based on their subjective determination of what is "best for the child." The authority of the parent is usurped and power is given to the states and ultimately to the United Nations.

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[Pastor Bob]

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When will these hate crimes against True Christians stop?

There are special rights for the negros, special rights for the homers, and even women now get the right to vote. The only group that people are still allowed to hate are True Christians (and the Godly values that this country were founded upon).

PB

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Christian Values under attack!

When will these hate crimes against True Christians stop?

There are special rights for the negros, special rights for the homers, and even women now get the right to vote. The only group that people are still allowed to hate are True Christians (and the Godly values that this country were founded upon).

PB

Well you see Pastor Bob, we True Christians™ are the only truly persecuted minority in the world. The demoncrats who cry crocodile tears for the secular TV cameras, pretending to be oh so concerned for the jigaboos on welfare and the illegal wetbacks and the sodomites, are going to any lengths they can find to avoid the real issue at hand. They create false minorities to defend, but ignore God's chosen, thus giving tacit permission for us to be the whipping boy for every heathen in existence.

They will use any means necessary to destroy or undermine God's Will. But of course, they'll all pay dearly for their foolishness and thuggery in the end. Oh yes indeed.

[BornAgain]

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When will these hate crimes against True Christians stop?

There are special rights for the negros, special rights for the homers, and even women now get the right to vote. The only group that people are still allowed to hate are True Christians (and the Godly values that this country were founded upon).

PB

The persecution just proves that True Christians™ are God's chosen people. (Not that it wasn't already proven, mind you )

James 4:4 - Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

I just laugh at the heathens who stereotype us as "those wacky fundiementalists", for Jesus will be having the last laugh when he fries their asses in hell! Praise!

[Lone Wolf (On Moderation)]

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Brothers and Sisters,

I am sad to report that, yet again, the Christian Values upon which America (and, dare I say it, the world's dominant culture) is built! The liberals have introduced yet another bill to try to outlaw one's right to punish their children

And you people want to know why Teens don't like you.

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

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And you people want to know why Teens don't like you.

We know why teens don't like us: because they are so caught up with worshiping the devil because it's currently the "cool" thing to do. When they grow up and realize just how important their immortal soul is, they will wake up and see the Light, as long as we are diligent in bringing it to them.

Have you tithed yet?

[Rev. Dr. Davidson]

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And you people want to know why Teens don't like you.

Teens are the way they are because of government and schools taking away all parental rights. Kids are told they don't have to listen to their parents anymore. Most kids are medicated now anyway. Fifty yeas ago, children got whipped for an infraction of the rules. Most of those became productive members of society. Today almost no children are whipped. They're growing up to be goths, rappers, rapists, and demoncrats.

[BornAgain]

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We know why teens don't like us: because they are so caught up with worshiping the devil because it's currently the "cool" thing to do. When they grow up and realize just how important their immortal soul is, they will wake up and see the Light, as long as we are diligent in bringing it to them.

Have you tithed yet?

Not to mention MTV and their Demoncratic agenda. Plus with all the Nigra music and culture influencing our white youth, it's no wonder degeneracy, drug use, and crime is at an all-time high.

If it were up to me, MTV and other demoncratic networks would be banned and kids would be forced to watch 2 hours of The 700 Club every day at school. That would lead our youth back to Christ!

[Lone Wolf (On Moderation)]

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Teens are the way they are because of government and schools taking away all parental rights. Kids are told they don't have to listen to their parents anymore. Most kids are medicated now anyway. Fifty yeas ago, children got whipped for an infraction of the rules. Most of those became productive members of society. Today almost no children are whipped. They're growing up to be goths, rappers, rapists, and demoncrats.

You fail to realise that when you corner a cat you get scratched. You beat your children and they hated you for it. Beating a kid only fuels thier hatred against you, not make them learn. You try to teach a kid by beating him/her they will only stray from you more. You think all teens are satan worshippers because they dress in black. You cannot judge a group if you haven't spoke with them. I have seen these teens do great things. Sure there are some that don't like others. But if you continue to call them rapists or demoncrats they will hate you, not change thier ways. You know deep down that your way of life will have to change. You go around saying that blacks are inferior and women are to be determined if they have souls, you will only be shuned upon be almost all of society but you will yearn to be accepted. Only a fool would continue your ways. If you want to see my point go to Washington D.C. and go to the Lincoln monument and publicly shout "Lincoln was a terrible president! We should have kept the African Americans as slaves!" Say that again and again untill a crowed of angry Americans show up and continue your racial speech untill another LA riot breaks out. Do that and I'll see it on the news and the headline will be: Crazed Racial Religion Comes out, Riot starts at Lincoln memorial.

[BornAgain]

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You fail to realise that when you corner a cat you get scratched. You beat your children and they hated you for it.

It's not our job to make friends with our children, it's our job as True Christians™ to instill some respect and discipline into them.

Luke 14:26 - If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Hating your parents is actually a prerequisite to Salvation™.

Too bad your parents never disciplined you, nancy boy.

[Brother Temperance]

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You fail to realise that when you corner a cat you get scratched.
I can only bow to your superior knowledge of cat molestation.
You beat your children and they hated you for it. Beating a kid only fuels thier hatred against you, not make them learn.
We are commanded to save our children's souls by beating the foolishness out of them!
Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

You try to teach a kid by beating him/her they will only stray from you more. You think all teens are satan worshippers because they dress in black. You cannot judge a group if you haven't spoke with them. I have seen these teens do great things. Sure there are some that don't like others. But if you continue to call them rapists or demoncrats they will hate you, not change thier ways.
So if we call a rapist a rapist, that makes us the bad ones? Typical liberal bigotry.
You know deep down that your way of life will have to change. You go around saying that blacks are inferior and women are to be determined if they have souls, you will only be shuned upon be almost all of society but you will yearn to be accepted.
Yawn. Yawn.
John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Only a fool would continue your ways. If you want to see my point go to Washington D.C. and go to the Lincoln monument and publicly shout "Lincoln was a terrible president! We should have kept the African Americans as slaves!" Say that again and again untill a crowed of angry Americans show up and continue your racial speech untill another LA riot breaks out. Do that and I'll see it on the news and the headline will be: Crazed Racial Religion Comes out, Riot starts at Lincoln memorial.
We have never denied that we are a persecuted minority, or that the liberal media are biased against us. What of it?

[Jesus is Lord]

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You fail to realise that when you corner a cat you get scratched. You beat your children and they hated you for it. Beating a kid only fuels thier hatred against you, not make them learn. You try to teach a kid by beating him/her they will only stray from you more. You think all teens are satan worshippers because they dress in black. You cannot judge a group if you haven't spoke with them. I have seen these teens do great things. Sure there are some that don't like others. But if you continue to call them rapists or demoncrats they will hate you, not change thier ways. You know deep down that your way of life will have to change. You go around saying that blacks are inferior and women are to be determined if they have souls, you will only be shuned upon be almost all of society but you will yearn to be accepted. Only a fool would continue your ways. If you want to see my point go to Washington D.C. and go to the Lincoln monument and publicly shout "Lincoln was a terrible president! We should have kept the African Americans as slaves!" Say that again and again untill a crowed of angry Americans show up and continue your racial speech untill another LA riot breaks out. Do that and I'll see it on the news and the headline will be: Crazed Racial Religion Comes out, Riot starts at Lincoln memorial.

Ever heard of paragraphs?

If a parent beats their child within reason the child will be thankful later on in life. Beating a child just to beat him or going overboard with a beating is where there's a problem. Beating a child when he does something wrong teaches him he did wrong and he will most likely never do the same thing again.

I was given spankings growing up whenever I did wrong and they taught me to be a better person and I am thankful for them. Grounding and timeouts don't work, a good solid beating does though.

[Lone Wolf (On Moderation)]

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It's not our job to make friends with our children, it's our job as True Christians™ to instill some respect and discipline into them.

Luke 14:26 - If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Hating your parents is actually a prerequisite to Salvation™.

Impossible! That...That can't be true because number 5 of the commandments says to love your parents.

EXODUS 20:12Honour they father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the lord thy god giveth thee.

Holy crap the bible just said in one section not to do what it said in the other section. OHHHH NOOOO!!!!! what the hell am I supposed to do? What if the bible is mistaken!? This changes everything! Oh no! An Athiest used the bible correctly to prove a point the apocolypse is upon us! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!