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  • its_faith
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    • Jun 2010
    • 292

    #16
    As a patriotic American and good Christian I dont care if it comes out that President Trump did it with young girls. Im fine with that as long as its President Trump. He is doing such good for America that Im sure we can all look past this like patriotic Americans.

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    • Johny Joe Hold
      Mayor of Freehold
       
      • Feb 2010
      • 12444

      #17
      Originally posted by its_faith View Post
      As a patriotic American and good Christian I dont care if it comes out that President Trump did it with young girls. Im fine with that as long as its President Trump. He is doing such good for America that Im sure we can all look past this like patriotic Americans.
      It is good news that Attorney General Pam Bondi has fired a bevy of career investigative lawyers. These were no doubt lawyers that did not want to release all the Epstein files. Now that they are gone I'm expecting she will share all the files she has told us are on her desk.
      Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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      • Johny Joe Hold
        Mayor of Freehold
         
        • Feb 2010
        • 12444

        #18
        Former Southern Baptist official, Russell Moore, explained today that so-called secrets held by political people are all revealed in heaven. That being the case, Trump should release the Epstein files now.

        Moore used Richard Nixon's erased tapes as an example. Whatever was on these tapes is known in heaven. Those arriving in heaven since Nixon's death have learned the tapes were recorded church music from Nixon's childhood Quaker roots. He could have just told people this or left them on the tape. Trump's situation is identical. In heaven we will learn he appeared nowhere in the Epstein papers. Release them now and settle the matter.

        Why We Want to See the Epstein Files - Christianity Today
        Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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        • Isabella White
          True Christian™ Icon of Feminine Virtue
           
          • Mar 2019
          • 4284

          #19
          Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
          Former Southern Baptist official, Russell Moore, explained today that so-called secrets held by political people are all revealed in heaven. That being the case, Trump should release the Epstein files now.

          Moore used Richard Nixon's erased tapes as an example. Whatever was on these tapes is known in heaven. Those arriving in heaven since Nixon's death have learned the tapes were recorded church music from Nixon's childhood Quaker roots. He could have just told people this or left them on the tape. Trump's situation is identical. In heaven we will learn he appeared nowhere in the Epstein papers. Release them now and settle the matter.

          Why We Want to See the Epstein Files - Christianity Today
          Oh, how I do agree — whole-heartedly — dear Brother Mayor Hold. It is beyond high time that those Epstein files get released. I am sure that we are all waiting with great anticipation to see the name of Bill Clinton at the top of the list! After his disgraceful affair with that Monica intern, there is no doubt — none whatsoever — that those files are riddled with Clinton's name on every single page!

          I just hope that those pesky DEMON-rats do not turn all of this against our beloved and righteous President Trump. We all know what they like to do: create lies and accusations. Nobody in his or her right mind would believe a word of it, though; however, what the LIE-berals have in mind is anybody's guess.

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          • WWJDnow
            True Christian™
            True Christian™
            • Aug 2009
            • 6304

            #20
            I'm starting to think that Pam Bondi is a secret Commucrat Party spy. Or maybe she is the spawn of Satan. Or both. She is certainly giving terrible advice to President Trump. This just goes to show you that women have no business going to law school or advising the President.

            It's time for President Trump to take the Epstein files out of Bondi's hands and appoint a special counsel. I'll just bet we'll find out that Hunter Biden was involved once all of those documents are released.
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            • Johny Joe Hold
              Mayor of Freehold
               
              • Feb 2010
              • 12444

              #21
              Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post

              It's time for President Trump to take the Epstein files out of Bondi's hands and appoint a special counsel.
              Special Counsel is the right way to go. President Trump needs to appoint a prominent person who is perceived to be an honest broker. Here is my recommendation: Steve Bannon. Steve knows a lot about government and holds the prestigious MBA degree.

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              • Prayer Warrior
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2011
                • 839

                #22

                So, I've gone through some of the previous releases and statements related to Epstein

                February 21st
                U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi told 'America Reports' host John Roberts that she is reviewing the Jeffrey Epstein list, which is "sitting on my desk right now," along with the JFK and MLK files.


                U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Friday the Jeffrey Epstein client list is “sitting on my desk right now” and is reviewing the JFK and MLK files after President Donald Trump’s earlier directives.


                February 27th,
                Pam Bondi releases documents to social media influencers, which turn out to be already previously released documents.



                AG Pam Bondi's decision to trumpet the release of Jeffrey Epstein files that contained little new information has ruffled feathers in the White House, sources say.

                When more than a dozen MAGA-aligned activists and social media influencers gathered at the White House last week, they had no idea they were about to be handed binders titled "Epstein Files: Phase 1"-- and neither did senior White House officials who organized the event, according to multiple sources familiar with the event.
                March 3rd

                Pam then goes on Fox News and posts a correction saying new documents have arrived and they'll be delivered to the public.

                AG Pam Bondi said the FBI handed over a "truckload" of Epstein files after she gave the agency until 8 a.m. Friday morning to turn them over. She also praised FBI boss Kash Patel.


                And that’s what the FBI had turned over to us. And so a source said, ‘Whoa, all this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York.’ So based on that, I gave them the deadline Friday at eight. A truckload of evidence arrived. It’s now in the possession of the FBI. Kash is going to get me and himself, really, a detailed report as to why all these documents and evidence had been withheld. And you know, we’re going to go through it, go through as fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are a lot of victims

                Yeah, the FBI hasn’t had– obviously they haven’t looked at the thousands of pages of documents that they’ve just received Friday. Kash has a team going through them, and it’s always about protecting the victim. But you know what, we believe in transparency, and America has the right to know. The Biden administration sat on these documents. No one did anything with them. And why were they sitting in the Southern District of New York? I want a full report on that. Sadly, these people don’t believe in transparency. But I think more, unfortunately, I think a lot of them don’t live in honesty. And it’s a new day. It’s a new administration. And everything’s going to come out to the public. The public has a right to know. Americans have a right to know,

                https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jef...administration
                A memo releases in July stating there's no incriminating client list, despite videos of thousands of victims.
                From the FBI memo ​on July 6th

                As part of our commitment to transparency, the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have conducted an exhaustive review of investigative holdings relating toJeffrey Epstein. To ensure that the review was thorough, the FBI conducted digital searches of its databases, hard drives, and network drives as well as physical searches of squad areas, locked cabinets, desks, closets, and other areas where responsive material may have been stored. These searches uncovered a significant amount of material, including more than 300 gigabytes of data and physical evidence .The files relating to Epstein include a large volume of images of Epstein, images and videos of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors, and over ten thousand downloaded videos and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography. Teams of agents, analysts,attorneys, and privacy and civil liberties experts combed through the digital and documentary evidence with the aim of providing as much information as possible to the public while simultaneously protecting victims. Much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing. Only a fraction of this material would have been aired publicly had Epstein gone to trial, as the seals served only to protect victims and did not expose any additional third-parties to allegations of illegal wrongdoing. Through this review, we found no basis to revisit the disclosure of those materials and will not permit the release of child pornography.This systematic review revealed no incriminating “client list.” There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. Consistent with prior disclosures, this review confirmed that Epstein harmed over one thousand victims. Each suffered unique trauma. Sensitive information relating to these victims is intertwined throughout the materials. This includes specific details such as victim names and likenesses, physical descriptions, places of birth, associates, and employment history
                Pam clarifies that in her previous interview with Fox, she meant 'the file', not an actual list of clients.

                July 8th https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EdbO_ZxkpuE

                Trump: "I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this when we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy. Just seems like a desecration."

                Pam: "I did an interview on Fox and it's been getting a lot of attention, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I was asked about the client list and it's been getting a lot of attention, and my response was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed. Meaning the file, along with the JFK, MLK file as well. Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn
                Trump states that Democrats created the Epstein files.

                July 12th

                https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...42356238631061
                What’s going on with my “boys” and, in some cases, “gals?” They’re all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! We’re on one Team, MAGA, and I don’t like what’s happening. We have a PERFECT Administration, THE TALK OF THE WORLD, and “selfish people” are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 “Intelligence” Agents, “THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,” and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called “friends” are playing right into their hands. Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it? They haven’t even given up on the John F. Kennedy or Martin Luther King, Jr. Files. No matter how much success we have had, securing the Border, deporting Criminals, fixing the Economy, Energy Dominance, a Safer World where Iran will not have Nuclear Weapons, it’s never enough for some people. We are about to achieve more in 6 months than any other Administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have so much more to do. We are saving our Country and, MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, which will continue to be our complete PRIORITY. The Left is imploding! Kash Patel, and the FBI, must be focused on investigating Voter Fraud, Political Corruption, ActBlue, The Rigged and Stolen Election of 2020, and arresting Thugs and Criminals, instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old, Radical Left inspired Documents on Jeffrey Epstein. LET PAM BONDI DO HER JOB — SHE’S GREAT! The 2020 Election was Rigged and Stolen, and they tried to do the same thing in 2024 — That’s what she is looking into as AG, and much more. One year ago our Country was DEAD, now it’s the “HOTTEST” Country anywhere in the World. Let’s keep it that way, and not waste Time and Energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank you for your attention to this matter!


                https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...stein-00452731

                July 14th


                Lara Trump encourages more transparency related to Epstein files
                Lara Trump

                I do think that there needs to be more transparency on this[release of Epstein documents], and I think that that will happen. I believe that there will probably be more coming on this. And I believe anything that they are able to release that doesn’t, you know, damage any witnesses or anyone underage or anything like that, I believe they’ll probably try to get out sooner rather than later,
                July 15th




                "Your daughter and law said that there should be transparency in the Epstein case. Do you agree with her, sir?"
                The attorney general (Pam Bondi) handled it very well, and you want credible evidence for something like that. She's handled it very well, and it's going to be up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release."... "These files, they were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama, they were made up by the Biden administration, and we went through years of that with the Russia Russia Russia hoax, and we went through years of that, but whatever she thinks is credible, she should release
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQhpfldye4

                July 15th


                Trump said he would support you releasing additional credible evidence related to the Epstein investigation. Is that something you'd be open to?

                I appreciate your question but this, today is about Fentanyl.



                https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...63203348237352

                July 16th
                The Radical Left Democrats have hit pay dirt, again! Just like with the FAKE and fully discredited Steele Dossier, the lying 51 “Intelligence” Agents, the Laptop from Hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia (No, it came from Hunter Biden’s bathroom!), and even the Russia, Russia, Russia Scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide Crooked Hillary Clinton’s big loss in the 2016 Presidential Election, these Scams and Hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at - It’s all they have - They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates. Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue. Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this “bullshit,” hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years. I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
                Edit: New statement

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIi_O9C1I3Q

                July 17th
                Press secretary Karoline Leavitt
                The president would not recommend a special prosecutor in the Epstein case. That's how he feels
                11:00
                "Can you clarify,which part of the Epstein hoax is the hoax part?

                Leavitt: The president is referring to the fact that Democrats have now seized on this as if they ever wanted transparency when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, which is an assinine suggestion for any Democrat to make. The Democrats had control of this building, the white house, for four years, and they didn't do a dang thing when it came to transparency regarding Jeffrey Epstein and his heinous crimes. It was this president, who directed the department of Justice and the attorney general to do an exhastive review of all files related to all files related to Jeffrey Epstein, which they did. The attorney general and the FBI, led by Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, these are great patriots some of the most trusted voices in the republican party movement. It's one of the reasons the President appointed him, appointed them to these high law enforcement positions, and they spent many months going over the files related to Jeffrey Epstein, and they concluded what they found in that memo, and they released"
                Apparently, Trump also isn't considering a special prosecutor either,

                “The idea was floated from someone in the media to the president. The president would not recommend a special prosecutor in the Epstein case. That’s how he feels,
                https://thehill.com/video/white-hous...iles/10900268/





                Normally, I would think Pam Bondi is doing a horrible job and should be fired for her incompetence for overrepresenting what she had, or that the FBI was lying to cover up Democrat clients.. but what surprised me is that Trump says she's doing a great job, and Trump is saying that the Epstein files are a hoax.

                Does that mean there were no children sex trafficked and Epstein was innocent? Or is he saying that Jeffrey was guilty, but the client list they secretly had was doctored?

                If it was doctored, are they working on getting a real client list or have they given up so they can work on more pressing matters such as the economy and immigration? And why wasn't Pam lambasted for falling for these doctored documents? I feel like Matt Gaetz would have recognized the problem with the documents earlier.

                Edit: A new statement from Karoline Leavitt mentions that it is the Democrats implying they want transparency that is the 'hoax' aspect. Not the contents of the files? So then what did Trump mean by "These files, they were made up by Comey"? Does it mean the files are all unaltered? So can we go back to releasing the client list now since it was the Democrats' intent that was a hoax and not the documents?


                Or is this all a very advanced 3D chess move from Trump to create a Streisand effect and get the Democrats to be interested in releasing the documents themselves?

                Normally, I give my view on Trump's comments, but all these different statements are becoming most perplexing to me. Sometimes Trump works in mysterious ways, I suppose.

                Maybe someone more politically adept can make sense of all this?
                Last edited by Prayer Warrior; 07-17-2025, 08:42 PM.
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                • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
                  An old soul
                  True Christian™
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 4900

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Prayer Warrior View Post
                  Maybe someone more politically adept can make sense of all this?
                  Certainly, Brother. The orange character - we'll call him Punch - gets into public fights with the... woman character we'll call Judy. Punch and Judy really get at it. Then next day there's a new crisis! The, let me see, orange character - Punch - gets into a spat with some other colored character and boy do they get at it. Then the next day - guess what? That's right, the Lord's Prayer Day where we rest up and let the Mexicans carry the load.
                  If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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                  • Adam Fag
                    Unsaved trash, some kind of fag
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 614

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole View Post
                    What? Do you mean like this?



                    Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.

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                    • WWJDnow
                      True Christian™
                      True Christian™
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6304

                      #25
                      I never thought it would come to this, but I'm starting to think that maybe President Trump is lying.



                      To me, MAGA has always been about supporting the issues that Jesus cares about: no abortions, prayer in school, low taxes, executing homosexuals, and keeping people segregated by race. But now it is all about protecting pedophiles??? Jesus weeps.
                      Last edited by WWJDnow; 07-18-2025, 06:16 PM.
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                      • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
                        An old soul
                        True Christian™
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 4900

                        #26
                        Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                        To me, MAGA has always been about supporting the issues that Jesus cares about: no abortions, prayer in school, low taxes, executing homosexuals, and keeping people segregated by race. But now it is all about protecting pedophiles??? Jesus weeps.
                        I mean, having policy differences is one thing but burning the MAGA hats goes too far. That is unacceptable behavior. Those people should be locked up irregardless of their political position on pedophiles. They have the right to disagree with the President up to a point, but they may NOT desecrate hats or other iconography. We have to have principles.
                        If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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                        • WWJDnow
                          True Christian™
                          True Christian™
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6304

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole View Post

                          I mean, having policy differences is one thing but burning the MAGA hats goes too far. That is unacceptable behavior. Those people should be locked up irregardless of their political position on pedophiles. They have the right to disagree with the President up to a point, but they may NOT desecrate hats or other iconography. We have to have principles.
                          Dr. Toole, are you part of the coverup? Do we need to start investigating whether you are a pedophile, too?
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                          • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
                            An old soul
                            True Christian™
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 4900

                            #28
                            Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                            Dr. Toole, are you part of the coverup? Do we need to start investigating whether you are a pedophile, too?
                            Sir, like I said, we may disagree on policy but there's no excuse for misbehavior. Besides, I'm satisfied with Vice President Vance's rebuffal.
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                            • Johny Joe Hold
                              Mayor of Freehold
                               
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 12444

                              #29
                              Really, the President needs to change the subject. He has been trying, he talks of the Fed. Reserve Chair, Jerone Powell, every day. That is not working. I think he should start an investigation of the Monica Lewinsky scandal. If not that, White Water. Hunter Biden might work. The material is there. He has to get on it.

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                              Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                              • Johny Joe Hold
                                Mayor of Freehold
                                 
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 12444

                                #30
                                President Trump is suing the New York Times because the Times told everyone about a drawing of female breasts the President included in a humorous note to Epstein. Really, why is the President angry about this? Women's breasts are shown in every art gallery in the U.S. Our multitalented President has given other pieces of his art work to many people. That the NY Times is having a cow over this is just ridiculous. The President should laugh at this and offer to draw and sell his drawings of nudes regularly.

                                Trump said he ‘never wrote a picture in my life.’ Here are four.
                                Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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