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  • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
    An old soul
    True Christian™
    • Aug 2013
    • 4845

    #16
    Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
    Something disturbing has come up in the Charlie Kirk death aftermath. It is his widow, Erika Kirk. When Charlie was alive, she was a Christian wife properly deferring to Charlie. Now, suddenly, she has assumed the CEO position in the organization they had. The correct thing for her to do would have been to have grieved a while, then had a lengthy courtship with a Christian man followed by a marriage and his permission to assume high level responsibilities. She is not handling this in a Christian way.
    WWCD? Fortunately we don't have to guess.

    There was what I can only describe as pure jubilance in the audience as Kirk called upon women to abandon careers and education to “submit to a godly man” and raise “more children than you can afford.” To Kirk, the ultimate goal for every girl should be marriage, and every single decision should push them closer to finding a husband.

    Kirk stressed that women should not attend college and that high-school girls should prioritize marriage and children above all else. Kirk trumpeted that grades do not matter and that a true patriot should not care about them, suggesting that Christians get bad grades because they do not succumb to the “woke” teachings of the U.S. education system and the Left.

    Kirk’s wife, Erika Kirk, claimed to “release” girls from the anxieties of feminism, from the idea that they should chase a cozy corner office or a meaningless paycheck. She stressed that all the women in the crowd can, and ultimately should, rely on men, as relying on men is a path to happiness and contentment. For a woman, a career, financial independence or self-sufficiency is only a distraction.

    All of the female speakers (with Kirk being the only male) had successful careers; there were even multiple female members of Congress who spoke: Reps. Nancy Mace and Beth Van Duyne.
    Now don't get me wrong, it's not all good. There is room for criticism, for example Charlie references "Silent obedience, and especially the obedience characterizing the Virgin Mary." Woah!!! The worship of false idols is nothing short of Satanic and the government should use all of its God-given Amendments to shut it down.
    If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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    • Prayer Warrior
      True Christian™
      True Christian™
      • Sep 2011
      • 832

      #17
      Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
      Something disturbing has come up in the Charlie Kirk death aftermath. It is his widow, Erika Kirk. When Charlie was alive, she was a Christian wife properly deferring to Charlie. Now, suddenly, she has assumed the CEO position in the organization they had. The correct thing for her to do would have been to have grieved a while, then had a lengthy courtship with a Christian man followed by a marriage and his permission to assume high level responsibilities. She is not handling this in a Christian way.
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      Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, is Turning Point USA's new CEO : NPR
      Ordinarily, I'd want her to get remarried, but I think it's very difficult to find an available man who is comparable to one of the greats of our time, like Charlie. I've seen some people say JD Vance might be the one to carry the torch, but of course, like many of the great men of this age, he's already taken.

      If she marries down or gets married too quickly, the new husband might undermine Kirk's legacy. There needs to be someone to lead the organization in the meantime. Maybe she feels, for now, that she best understands her late husband's wishes, and she is in the best position to serve her husband posthumously. Of course, I still think she'll take advice from those in the White House, like JD Vance and Trump, for difficult issues.

      1 Corinthians 7:39-40

      39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord. 40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.
      Of course, I'm not a spiritual expert, so I am just guessing. I just want to give her the benefit of the doubt during this difficult and troubling time.
      Close minded people are just right people who don't want to spend time arguing.

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      • Johny Joe Hold
        Mayor of Freehold
         
        • Feb 2010
        • 12336

        #18
        I was unable to attend Charlie Kirk's service but I watched it on TV and was very pleased. I was concerned it might be an actual memorial service and not serve a higher purpose, elevating President Trump and putting a sword into the heart of liberal politics. I can report happily much of the service was about the superior values of we Christians and the evil intentions of Democrats. President Trump was correctly on message as were several others.

        To those who wanted to hear more memorializing Charlie, I would say this. Charlie is dead. What lives on is the need for votes and the money to get them. A full-throated condemnation of liberals and atheists is what we need right now.

        Charlie Kirk's memorial serves as a conservative 'revival,' mixing calls for forgiveness and vengeance
        Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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        • WWJDnow
          True Christian™
          True Christian™
          • Aug 2009
          • 6293

          #19
          I am still too choked up with sadness (no homo, though) to write about that great American, Charlie Kirk. All I can say is that God needed a Klansman in Heaven more than we needed him here in America.
          The Christian Right: The Only Right Way to Be a Christian!

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          • Johny Joe Hold
            Mayor of Freehold
             
            • Feb 2010
            • 12336

            #20
            Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
            I am still too choked up with sadness (no homo, though) to write about that great American, Charlie Kirk. All I can say is that God needed a Klansman in Heaven more than we needed him here in America.
            I hear you, Brother Dnow. President Trump also is in a deep grieving state. He is trying to shake himself out of it by having a news conference linking Tylenol to autism. One can only imagine how hard it is for Trump to move on.

            Trump administration to link Tylenol use to risk of autism - POLITICO
            Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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            • Prayer Warrior
              True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2011
              • 832

              #21
              Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
              I was unable to attend Charlie Kirk's service but I watched it on TV and was very pleased. I was concerned it might be an actual memorial service and not serve a higher purpose, elevating President Trump and putting a sword into the heart of liberal politics. I can report happily much of the service was about the superior values of we Christians and the evil intentions of Democrats. President Trump was correctly on message as were several others.

              To those who wanted to hear more memorializing Charlie, I would say this. Charlie is dead. What lives on is the need for votes and the money to get them. A full-throated condemnation of liberals and atheists is what we need right now.

              Charlie Kirk's memorial serves as a conservative 'revival,' mixing calls for forgiveness and vengeance
              Amen! I was particularly moved by Stephen Miller's speech.

              We stand for what is good, what is virtuous, what is noble. And for those trying to incite violence against us, those trying to foment hatred against us. What do you have? You have nothing. You are nothing. You are wickedness, you are jealousy! You are envy! You are hatred! You are nothing! You can build nothing. You can produce nothing. You can create nothing. We are the ones who build. We are the ones who create. We are the ones who lift up humanity.
              It reminds me of Charlie's speeches talking about immigrants, mentioning our ancestors were settlers (who build society), not just immigrants who come into an already built society and expect to leech off the hard work of others. Big difference. https://youtube.com/shorts/_b_L_mQcS...UNz5hGcmHuHcnB

              I think these speeches, putting down the evils & laziness of Democrats and atheist and immigrants would have made Charlie proud!

              It also warms my heart to see conservatives turning the cancel culture ideology back onto the left, particularly in teaching & education based jobs. Bad mouth Charlie or talk positively about the assassination? Lose your job. Even in death Charlie is fighting to help our schools and colleges free from liberal lunatics. Though I am sad that we no longer have this great patriot with us, and his soothing voice of reason and common sense to help uplift our week, I am happy to see that Charlie's legacy being used to fight back against liberals.
              A conservative PAC has launched a new portal where users can report examples of teachers across the country who have praised, justified or downplayed Charlie Kirk's murder.



              I've seen images of social media online of hateful leftists defacing our wonderful monuments to the late, great Charlie.

              (Warning that this image is highly offensive, but I think it is important for educational purposes to see how bad the left has gotten) https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1967646937836122617.

              I think another way we could honor Charlie's legacy is by setting up undercover sting operations with Charlie Kirk monuments everywhere with 24/7 surveillance. Anyone who defaces a Charlie Kirk monument gets 10+Y in prison for political terrorism (maybe with leniency to people who turn in the people funding them/ordering the riots). That may seem harsh.. but vandalizing statues one day, gun in hand the next. These violent people are dangerous and need to be taken off the streets (and made ineligible to vote).
              Close minded people are just right people who don't want to spend time arguing.

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              • Johny Joe Hold
                Mayor of Freehold
                 
                • Feb 2010
                • 12336

                #22
                Originally posted by Prayer Warrior View Post
                I think these speeches, putting down the evils & laziness of Democrats and atheist and immigrants would have made Charlie proud!

                Though I am sad that we no longer have this great patriot with us, and his soothing voice of reason and common sense to help uplift our week, I am happy to see that Charlie's legacy being used to fight back against liberals.

                I think another way we could honor Charlie's legacy is by setting up undercover sting operations with Charlie Kirk monuments everywhere with 24/7 surveillance. Anyone who defaces a Charlie Kirk monument gets 10+Y in prison for political terrorism (maybe with leniency to people who turn in the people funding them/ordering the riots).
                This ceremony that sent Charlie to his beautiful home in heaven was done so tastefully. It was all theology and scripture--bashing the woke being central to these two topics. Choirs of angels no doubt began singing when they heard how low liberals go in criticizing Charlie and President Trump.

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                Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
                  An old soul
                  True Christian™
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 4845

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post

                  President Trump also is in a deep grieving state. He is trying to shake himself out of it by having a news conference linking Tylenol to autism. One can only imagine how hard it is for Trump to move on.
                  I'm sorry to veer off-topic, Brother, but this was a very disappointing development. I know the rampant gay-AIDS-trans-lack-of-Bible-in-schools didn't help matters either, which I hope will be mentioned in the final report.
                  If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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                  • Prayer Warrior
                    True Christian™
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 832

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
                    It was a predictable as the sun coming up each morning that goofy liberals would blame this in the fact that Americans can own guns. Charlie was in favor of people defending themselves with guns and owned guns himself. The problem in this case is there were not enough guns at the ready. An armed Christian right there would have saved Charlie's life.
                    I did some more digging and just found some news confirming what you already knew.

                    Suspect Tyler Robinson reportedly used his grandfather's Mauser Model 98 rifle, a possibly untraceable weaponry, in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.



                    Prosecutors and officials identified the gun as a Mauser Model 98 .30-06 caliber bolt-action rifle, a type originally manufactured in Germany for military use during both World Wars. It may predate U.S. laws enacted in 1968 following President John F. Kennedy’s assassination, which required firearms to carry serial numbers or other identifying marks — making it harder for law enforcement to trace.

                    Authorities said the firearm belonged to the grandfather of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old Utah man accused of assassinating Kirk. Police allege Robinson may have deliberately chosen the rifle because it was difficult to trace.
                    What good would background checks or gun restrictions have done? This gun wasn't even registered and probably would have fell through the cracks.

                    Meanwhile a Turning Point USA Employee described the real problem:




                    Tyler Bowyer "We’ve received thousands & thousands of death threats."

                    Julian Conradson "how TF was TPUSA security so lax that they "missed" a shooter on the only building with a clear shot to Charlie?"

                    Tyler Bowyer: " The answer to your question is that our team has a drone system for watching perimeter and hard to see places. They were not allowed to use it.

                    Universities and university police departments who are separate from bigger city departments and therefore completely influenced by the university are notorious for shutting down drones and extended security perimeters particularly with armed guards because they often complain about militarizing the campus.

                    We use the drone system in every event possible including at our headquarters and it would have saved Charlie’s life in this instance to overcome the police’s decisions on watch and perimeter"

                    Truman01
                    "please consider hiring a Team going forward, do not tell any event who/how many Team dudes you have in the crowd/around the perimeter/etc; run it like a Military Op due to the violent rhetoric from the legacy media."


                    Tyler Bowyer: "We do have a team. We can only do as much as police on campus will allow and also working with the police or private security in a given venue."


                    Christian Gochnour "Can you give a rough estimate on what percent universities wouldn’t allow you to use your drones? This is hard to hear how wildly negligent universities are for not allowing it. They blame everything on guns while not allowing basic security to take place."



                    Tyler Bowyer 'Most universities are completely opposed to guns, guards and drones. We have to push the limits every time."



                    Heatbreaking! Another example of liberal gun restrictions costing people's lives!


                    To those mean replies making fun of this tweet, guns indeed do save lives!

                    If only the schools knew what Charlie knew!




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                    A more cowardly man, knowing the risk, would have gone away and ran from the unsafe murder zone colleges, but Charlie understood the risk and ran right into the lion's den! As his memorial tweet says, prioritizing reaching people even above his own safety!


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                    What a patriot! He gave up his life for our second amendment. I think in honor of Charlie we should have guns in every school to make sure another tragedy like this doesn't happen again.
                    ​​
                    Close minded people are just right people who don't want to spend time arguing.

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                    • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
                      An old soul
                      True Christian™
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 4845

                      #25
                      The only way to guarantee free speech in these places is to crack down hard with military force. They won't like it, I can already you that.
                      If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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                      • Johny Joe Hold
                        Mayor of Freehold
                         
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 12336

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dr. Anthony J. Toole View Post
                        The only way to guarantee free speech in these places is to crack down hard with military force. They won't like it, I can already you that.
                        Shutting down the voices on the left is the only path to freedom of speech. We need to compile a list and turn the military loose on them. Here are some groups that spout off nonsense that in turn intimidates the voices of patriots of the right: ACLU, Americans for Democratic Actions, National Democratic Party, Southern Poverty Law Center, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State and Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays. Shut these down and lives will be saved.
                        Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                        • Johny Joe Hold
                          Mayor of Freehold
                           
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 12336

                          #27
                          Another way to protect free speech is to tear down any artwork that depicts President Trump in an unfavorable light. Recently, some patriotic free speech advocates did just that to an art piece depicting President Trump with Jeff Epstein. They tore it down. When space is taken up depicting unfavorably our President, that space is not available to those who want to present something good. For this to be a country of free speech, bad art be replaced with good.

                          Trump Admin Tears Down Trump-Epstein Statue | HuffPost Latest News
                          Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                          • Prayer Warrior
                            True Christian™
                            True Christian™
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 832

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Prayer Warrior View Post
                            I think another way we could honor Charlie's legacy is by setting up undercover sting operations with Charlie Kirk monuments everywhere with 24/7 surveillance. Anyone who defaces a Charlie Kirk monument gets 10+Y in prison for political terrorism (maybe with leniency to people who turn in the people funding them/ordering the riots). That may seem harsh.. but vandalizing statues one day, gun in hand the next. These violent people are dangerous and need to be taken off the streets (and made ineligible to vote).
                            I want to clarify that the 10Y+ of terrorism charges are for young vandals destroying good art, not out of complience statues such as these.


                            Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post

                            Shutting down the voices on the left is the only path to freedom of speech. We need to compile a list and turn the military loose on them. Here are some groups that spout off nonsense that in turn intimidates the voices of patriots of the right: ACLU, Americans for Democratic Actions, National Democratic Party, Southern Poverty Law Center, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State and Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays. Shut these down and lives will be saved.
                            These people sound like they were on official government business for legitimate park enforcement action. It sounds like the people submitting that statue weren't doing their due diligence in meeting the park's size requirements. So that's a different story.

                            What if people start placing skyscrapers in parks and obstructing everyone's view? That was something that had to be handled quickly and I'm glad they did.

                            “Requirements of the permit state that it has to be 6 foot by 3.5 foot and this is 9 foot by — and larger than that. So we’re out of compliance here,” the official says in the video. The permit issued to Secret Handshake describes the statue as 6′ by 3.5′. The group described the statue as 12 feet tall when it first went up.

                            The leader of Secret Handshake told HuffPost that they submitted the specs for the installation “correctly” at 12 feet but “the Parks Department, somewhere along the line, forgot to add the base to the permit and only wrote in the 6 feet for the statues.”

                            “We did not realize this until yesterday when we were told there was internal pressure to find a reason to remove this statue,” he said. “We resubmitted the specs and were told that if they decided to revoke our permit we would be given 24 hours’ notice.”

                            “Instead, people showed up in the middle of the night, destroyed it and hauled it away,” the organizer said.
                            Close minded people are just right people who don't want to spend time arguing.

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                            • Johny Joe Hold
                              Mayor of Freehold
                               
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 12336

                              #29
                              After they killed Charlie Kirk, you'd think liberals would take a break from their persecution of us. But no, they were in full force in the United Nations when Trump stopped by this week to enlighten that group. Liberals first stopped the escalator taking Trump to an upper level. The President knew instinctively it was part of a plot to harm him, so he ran up the dead escalator to safety. Then, when he was giving his speech, liberals sabotaged his teleprompter. Enemies hoped this would delay his remarks long enough to harm him. The President was too strong to be harmed. Following that, liberals tinkered with the sound system so Trump could not be understood. Trump told the U.N. these three incidents were attempts to harm him and it might be necessary to send troops into the U.N.

                              Trump Goes On Rampage Against U.N., Citing ‘Three Very Sinister Events’ | HuffPost Latest News
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                              Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                              • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
                                An old soul
                                True Christian™
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 4845

                                #30
                                Shocking that you can't hire a decent contractor in New York City.

                                A certain commander in chief has a long history of being accused of screwing over the little guy ...

                                If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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