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  • Nilon
    Confirmed Enemy of God
    • Aug 2009
    • 32

    #16
    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    If you're against freedom, then you're a communist, like Al Kaeda.

    Did you know that this is a Christian forum? Why are you here? Did Bill Clinton send you?
    America is not free, if you believe it is then you should be able to go out right now and kill someone of another faith and be protected because you're exercising your religion am I correct? Now, since we've established America is not free, then according to your logic America is a Communist nation, and everyone who supports America is communist am I correct?

    I was actually showed a link to some of the things that go on this forum, and being raised a Christian I found some of these topics somewhat interesting when compared to what I have been raised with.

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    • Pastor Ezekiel
      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 78553

      #17
      Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

      Originally posted by Nilon View Post
      America is not free, if you believe it is then you should be able to go out right now and kill someone of another faith and be protected because you're exercising your religion am I correct? Now, since we've established America is not free, then according to your logic America is a Communist nation, and everyone who supports America is communist am I correct?

      I was actually showed a link to some of the things that go on this forum, and being raised a Christian I found some of these topics somewhat interesting when compared to what I have been raised with.
      If you think America isn't free, then why don't you move to Russia, boy?
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • Nilon
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        • Aug 2009
        • 32

        #18
        Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
        If you think America isn't free, then why don't you move to Russia, boy?
        It's not free, it enforces law that prevent freedom in certain cases. Lets just use some other examples, such as smoking weed. Are you free to do that? No, you're not allowed. Are you able to pray in public school (I believe not anymore), are you allowed to have gay marriage (of course not).

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        • Pastor Ezekiel
          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
           
          • Sep 2006
          • 78553

          #19
          Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

          Originally posted by Nilon View Post
          It's not free, it enforces law that prevent freedom in certain cases. Lets just use some other examples, such as smoking weed. Are you free to do that? No, you're not allowed. Are you able to pray in public school (I believe not anymore), are you allowed to have gay marriage (of course not).
          Queers getting married isn't freedom! What color are the trees on your planet boy? Are you on the drugs?
          Who Will Jesus Damn?

          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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          • Nilon
            Confirmed Enemy of God
            • Aug 2009
            • 32

            #20
            Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

            Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
            Queers getting married isn't freedom! What color are the trees on your planet boy? Are you on the drugs?
            Definition of freedom-
            the condition of being free; the power to act or speak or think without externally imposed restraint.


            Technically, although not of the Bible, Fags getting married would actually be considered a freedom. I'm just using it as an example. In any case, the other examples could also be used in the case of this one, and they also show the fact that it's not free.

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            • Pastor Ezekiel
              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
               
              • Sep 2006
              • 78553

              #21
              Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

              Originally posted by Nilon View Post
              Definition of freedom-
              the condition of being free; the power to act or speak or think without externally imposed restraint.


              Technically, although not of the Bible, Fags getting married would actually be considered a freedom. I'm just using it as an example. In any case, the other examples could also be used in the case of this one, and they also show the fact that it's not free.
              So by "freedom" you mean no laws or rules at all? That's anarchism, boy! What's wrong with you?

              Freedom means having the freedom to obey God's laws. All of them. That's why Brother Neumann is a Chrustian martyr! That's why we at Landover Baptist have been working hard (and praying our souls out) to get the U.S. constitution scrapped and the Holy KJV1611 Bible installed as the law of the land. Now THAT's freedom!

              Doesn't your father ever lay good Christian beatings on you? What church do you attend? I'd like to have a word with your Pastor.
              Who Will Jesus Damn?

              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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              • Nilon
                Confirmed Enemy of God
                • Aug 2009
                • 32

                #22
                Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                So by "freedom" you mean no laws or rules at all? That's anarchism, boy! What's wrong with you?

                Freedom means having the freedom to obey God's laws. All of them. That's why Brother Neumann is a Chrustian martyr! That's why we at Landover Baptist have been working hard (and praying our souls out) to get the U.S. constitution scrapped and the Holy KJV1611 Bible installed as the law of the land. Now THAT's freedom!

                Doesn't your father ever lay good Christian beatings on you? What church do you attend? I'd like to have a word with your Pastor.
                Once again, you're not getting what I meant. Anacharism wouldn't work because only the rich would be able to do things. Things like getting protection would only be available to those with a decent some of resources.

                Of course, freedom for one person isn't freedom for everyone. Personally, I don't think I could live with the freedom the Bible offers, due to the fact I have friends and I would be considered a sinner by your God's outrageous standards. I would support them not being killed for the slightest thing gone wrong. That and the fact the Bible is much hypocritical to be followed in my personal opinion.

                The beatings didn't much happen, and I don't recall any due to Christian things. Also, I no longer have a Pastor. I guess while I did it wasn't so bad, but things are different now.

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                • Pastor Ezekiel
                  Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                   
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 78553

                  #23
                  Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                  Originally posted by Nilon View Post

                  Of course, freedom for one person isn't freedom for everyone. Personally, I don't think I could live with the freedom the Bible offers, due to the fact I have friends and I would be considered a sinner by your God's outrageous standards. I would support them not being killed for the slightest thing gone wrong. That and the fact the Bible is much hypocritical to be followed in my personal opinion.
                  If you have friends who are sinners, then it is your Christian duty to help them get Saved©. God doesn't want you to keep company with perverts, witches, non-Christians and so on. YOU can end up in the lake of fire too, just for defending them, or being nice to them!


                  Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


                  Originally posted by Nilon View Post
                  The beatings didn't much happen, and I don't recall any due to Christian things. Also, I no longer have a Pastor. I guess while I did it wasn't so bad, but things are different now.
                  I can tell that you were neglected as a boy. If your father really loved you, he would have beaten the daylights out of you.

                  Beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love. Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

                  The Bible says to beat your children and don't stop just because they cry.

                  Proverbs 19:18 Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
                  It also says that beating your children will make them less foolish.

                  Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
                  God wants children beaten hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them. Praise Jesus!

                  Proverbs 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
                  I feel sorry for you son.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                  Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                  • Nilon
                    Confirmed Enemy of God
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 32

                    #24
                    Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    If you have friends who are sinners, then it is your Christian duty to help them get Saved©. God doesn't want you to keep company with perverts, witches, non-Christians and so on. YOU can end up in the lake of fire too, just for defending them, or being nice to them!


                    I can tell that you were neglected as a boy. If your father really loved you, he would have beaten the daylights out of you.

                    Beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love. Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

                    The Bible says to beat your children and don't stop just because they cry.



                    It also says that beating your children will make them less foolish.



                    God wants children beaten hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them. Praise Jesus!



                    I feel sorry for you son.
                    I have fun with my friends, and though they may considered sinners by I would much rather be hang with them instead of devoting my life to something that won't make me as happy. I don't fear the lake of fire, which is about all there is to fear.

                    My father isn't my favorite figure, not because of neglect though. Personally I'm happy without him. I would much rather not be beaten and suffer from brain damage than have had him to do that. Actually, I guess that seems kind of nice because he was decent enough to not have killed me for doing tiny things in which most children end up doing anyways.

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                    • Nilon
                      Confirmed Enemy of God
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 32

                      #25
                      Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                      Also, I had not meant to go off topic as to deal with some of my personal beliefs. They're complicated to explain, so I'm doing my best to avoid them. I would just like to return to the part that limiting certain freedoms is a good idea, since without limits such freedoms could kill a majority of freedoms.

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                      • Pastor Ezekiel
                        Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                         
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 78553

                        #26
                        Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                        Originally posted by Nilon View Post
                        Also, I had not meant to go off topic as to deal with some of my personal beliefs. They're complicated to explain, so I'm doing my best to avoid them. I would just like to return to the part that limiting certain freedoms is a good idea, since without limits such freedoms could kill a majority of freedoms.
                        The only true freedom, is the freedom to obey God's commandments. Without God, no one is free.
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                        Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                        • Nilon
                          Confirmed Enemy of God
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 32

                          #27
                          Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                          The only true freedom, is the freedom to obey God's commandments. Without God, no one is free.
                          Which do you obey, the commandments or the other laws he has? The command to not kill anyone, or the ones that say to kill homosexuals, women not virgins of birth, or others such as that?

                          My beliefs allow me to be free in the sense of what I feel, yet I know I'm still limited by laws set up by the government sense.

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                          • Pastor Ezekiel
                            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                             
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 78553

                            #28
                            Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                            Originally posted by Nilon View Post
                            Which do you obey, the commandments or the other laws he has? The command to not kill anyone, or the ones that say to kill homosexuals, women not virgins of birth, or others such as that?

                            My beliefs allow me to be free in the sense of what I feel, yet I know I'm still limited by laws set up by the government sense.
                            We obey every commandment and law in the Bible, including the one that says we have to obey secular law.

                            Otherwise, we'd hav slaves and several wives.
                            Who Will Jesus Damn?

                            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                            • Nilon
                              Confirmed Enemy of God
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 32

                              #29
                              Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                              Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                              We obey every commandment and law in the Bible, including the one that says we have to obey secular law.

                              Otherwise, we'd hav slaves and several wives.
                              That tends to leave you in a tight situation with many different sets of laws contradicting themselves, which tends to limit freedom just a bit.

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                              • Pastor Ezekiel
                                Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                                 
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 78553

                                #30
                                Re: Freedom for Dale Neumann!!!

                                Originally posted by Nilon View Post
                                That tends to leave you in a tight situation with many different sets of laws contradicting themselves, which tends to limit freedom just a bit.
                                You aren't paying attention, are you.


                                Landover Baptist Church has been lobbying and praying for years to get the U.S. constitution scrapped and the Holy Bible put in it's place as the law of the land. God's laws are best! THAT's freedom!
                                Who Will Jesus Damn?

                                Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                                Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                                Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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