[BelieverInGod]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Nothing but a bunch of elitist pet snobs I guess.

Except they want to get rid of those as well.

"We are not especially 'interested in' animals. Neither of us had ever been inordinately fond of dogs, cats, or horses in the way that many people are. We didn't 'love' animals." --

Peter Singer*, Animal Liberation: A New Ethic for Our Treatment of Animals, 2nd ed. (New York Review of Books, 1990), Preface, p. ii.

"Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles- from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it." John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic (Washington DC, PeTA, 1982). p. 15

"The cat, like the dog, must disappear... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist." - John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic (Washington, DC: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PeTA), 1982), p. 15.

"As John Bryant has written in his book Fettered Kingdoms, they [pets] are like slaves, even if well-kept slaves."
PeTA's Statement on Companion Animals


"In the end, I think it would be lovely if we stopped this whole notion of pets altogether." Ingrid Newkirk PeTA (Newsday, Feb. 21, 1988)

"I don't use the word 'pet.' I think it's speciest language. I prefer 'companion animal.' We would no longer allow... pet shops... Eventually companion animals would be phased out." Ingrid Newkirk PeTA (Harper's Magazine, Aug. 1988)

"Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation." Ingrid Newkirk,PeTA, "Just Like Us? Toward a Notion of Animal Rights" (symposium) Harper's, August 1988, p. 50.

"As the surplus of cats and dogs declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we return to a more symbiotic relationship--enjoyment at a distance." Ingrid Newkirk

Oh, and perhaps the pastors should take a look at this one.

Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian religious tradition." - Peter Singer [The Deweese Report, November 1998]

[handmaiden]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Funny how you never hear a "save the wolverine" campaign from them

Agreed, sharks are desperately important to the entire ocean ecosystem and thousands are killed for their fins alone ( and the rest of the shark dumped) each year.

Nobody gets worked up about the definning of God's toothy pruning shears of the deep.


Indignantly Yours,

Handmaiden

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Except they want to get rid of those as well.



Oh, and perhaps the pastors should take a look at this one.

It really is a shame that a basically good set of ideals can be hijacked by a small group of reactionaries as they try to instill their beliefs on a good cause to the point of driving supporters away. They should be ashamed of themselves and get back to helping the animals.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

It really is a shame that a basically good set of ideals can be hijacked by a small group of reactionaries as they try to instill their beliefs on a good cause to the point of driving supporters away. They should be ashamed of themselves and get back to helping the animals.

Those are two of the founding members.

As for the OP though, as I said earlier, my issue with the boy is poor animal husbandry. If you're going to kill an animal, make sure it's dead. Don't just leave it for dead somewhere.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Funny how you never hear a "save the wolverine" campaign from them

A lot of them have pet snakes, too.

Coincidence?

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

A lot of them have pet snakes, too.

Coincidence?

Are you talking Familiars?

[Tchoupitoulas]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

I say tae an eye for an eye - slit the guy's throat and call it even.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Are you talking Familiars?

I am talking about this:

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[handmaiden]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

I am talking about this:

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I remeber that picture of Nastasia Kinski. She also played a cat person in one movie. A definite bestial streak, there.

Cluckingly Yours,

Handmaiden

[H. Montague Worthington]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Do you know who likes to kill their dogs? Teenagers in Japan, and youngsters in South Korea. Everywhere I go I hear about the youth in Asia killing their dogs.

[handmaiden]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Do you know who likes to kill their dogs? Teenagers in Japan, and youngsters in South Korea. Everywhere I go I hear about the youth in Asia killing their dogs.

Har, har, Brother H.M.W.

I remember a cartoon about--

"Why is everybody so worked up about youth in Asia?

Those kids aren't hurting anybody!"


(Sigh) I think that I must be the oldest person on this forum. Or, I retain the most random, weird memories.

Creakingly Yours,

Handmaiden

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Do you know who likes to kill their dogs? Teenagers in Japan, and youngsters in South Korea. Everywhere I go I hear about the youth in Asia killing their dogs.

Yes, they KILL their dogs. They also eat them.

That's my issue with this boy, he didn't properly kill the animal.

[handmaiden]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Yes, they KILL their dogs. They also eat them.

That's my issue with this boy, he didn't properly kill the animal.

You make a needed point, Sister Big.

Whenever the Lord kills or arranges for the killing of any man, woman, child or animal, there is always a specific reason involved.

He does not kill simply for the unfettered joy of it; though it does seem as those He is a deity who enjoys His work.

People are killed for disobedience - (DUH!) all kinds of different sins, for sacrifice, (usually animals but occasionally people ) food, (animals) land, (people) and sometimes just to set a much needed example.

If you're gonna kill something you should at least eat it or skin it or burn it or steal its house and acreage. Even non -believers should be able to perceive the common sense wisdom of this.

So, the lesson here is that killing a dog is not such a big deal, wasting a perfectly good coat and carcass is a big deal.

Waste not, want not!

Instructively Yours,

Handmaiden

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Although I agree whole heartedly with you eat what you kill (Seth does not tell me when he goes to crow shoots), that wasn't quite my point.

The dog, a German shepherd mix named Star, wandered into a rural Fergus Falls yard about a week later and was taken to a veterinarian. Star had surgery and is now in a foster home awaiting adoption.

A week later, the dog was still alive. Obviously the boy had no idea what he was doing. Proper animal husbandry (i.e. dominion over animals) says that if you're going to kill an animal, you kill the animal.

[handmaiden]

Re: Why is killing a dog such a big deal?

Although I agree whole heartedly with you eat what you kill (Seth does not tell me when he goes to crow shoots), that wasn't quite my point.



A week later, the dog was still alive. Obviously the boy had no idea what he was doing. Proper animal husbandry (i.e. dominion over animals) says that if you're going to kill an animal, you kill the animal.

Point taken, dear. Only the Lord has leave to inflict prolonged suffering on anyone or thing.

Agreeably Yours,

Handmaiden