[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

I accept your spiritual path.

So you accept this doctrine?

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

- King James Bible, Exodus 22:18

[Proud Wiccan Girl]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

Our spiritual path says that your spiritual path will lead you to hell and that if we have even the tiniest morsel of Christian love and compassion, we will do whatever we can to dissuade you from continuing on it.

Well, I'm sorry your spiritual path thinks that.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

If you were to step into a coven and feel an overwhelming sense of unwelcome, you would know how it feels to be me in a church. It just doesn't fit right.

Prove to me that God is real, if He made me feel unwelcome in His church.

Prove to us that your goddess is real (and isn't actually a devil) if she makes us feel unwelcome in her coven.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

I accept your spiritual path. It's high time you accept mine.

Our spiritual path says that your spiritual path will lead you to hell and that if we have even the tiniest morsel of Christian love and compassion, we will do whatever we can to dissuade you from continuing on it.

[Proud Wiccan Girl]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

I don't think you understand the concept of epistemological justification. You are supposed to prove that your beliefs are true, not that they are tolerant and conducive to peace, which you haven't proven either.

I do not hate homosexuals or members of other religions. I only want them to join me in Heaven, and stop trying to spread their perversions through old money lobbying.

Wicca is real because, well, look around you. If the Goddess did not exist, all this beautiful nature would be dull and colorless.

"If you left a bible out in a storm, it would disintegrate in the wind and rain. Our bible is the wind and rain."

Prove to me that God is real, if He made me feel unwelcome in His church.

So ancient paganism taught tolerance and peace? Is that what the historical record says?

Yup! It was also around before Christianity. Besides, why would anyone join a religion that doesn't teach peace?

[Proud Wiccan Girl]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

Child, this Wiccan nonsense is merely the first step as an unbeliever towards the enlightenment that is the word of the Christ. It is as natural to masturbate as it is to believe that you can make up your own religion based on crap that you have seen written by drug addicts and the whores of the new age. It is a fact that you probably already have adorned yourself with the mark of Satan, which is what you peasants call tattoos.

God hates tats, and this is a natural fact. Science, the unnatural philosophy that compares cause and effect to the miracle of a virgin birth has already established that inking your skin, in particularly that slight part above your hiney causes cancer and an early death.

Jesus came, because he did not die and wants to save you from the mystery of damnation. Even trying to hold forth that believing in spells and runes and tarot cards and incense and running around naked because you think it is natural is like choosing the wrong door in the house of the haunted.

I love you, my child, and will pray for you to receive a sign that will abolish this retarded belief that you can, alone, surmount the vast nature of the spirit.

The Bible is easy to read, and I have a suggestion. It is in the book of Jonah, chapter four, verse seven.

But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that withered.

Thank you for your concern and prayers Mr. Scenter, but I have made up my mind on the path to divinity.

I do not have tattoos, and do not plan on getting any, though I wear my pentacle necklace proudly wherever I go.

And I have read the bible. I found it very interesting and I still own my late aunt's copy to this day.

But, it's just not something I believe. Every time I step into a church with my family, I feel the Goddess tugging at my heart, telling me to follow her to inner peace. Whenever I am out in nature, casting a prayer circle in my bedroom or even clutching my pentacle pendent between my hands, I feel like I am home. The warm feeling you get when you are in a big, comfy armchair, reading to your children about Moses, Noah, Jesus and everyone in between or singing your favorite hymn in church, the whole congregation's voice becoming one big gust of power is what I get practicing my religion. If you were to step into a coven and feel an overwhelming sense of unwelcome, you would know how it feels to be me in a church. It just doesn't fit right.

I accept your spiritual path. It's high time you accept mine.

[Oliver Brendan Hayve]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

But, before you say that I'm wrong because "it's fake because it's new", Wicca stems from ancient Paganism, as does Christianity. Gerald Gardner only brought the religion to light by observing followers of Paganism.

My religion teaches tolerance and peace.

So ancient paganism taught tolerance and peace? Is that what the historical record says?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

Well, why do you hate homosexuals?
What about other religions?

My religion teaches tolerance and peace. We accept homosexuals and do not try to convert others. I believe that is justified enough.

I don't think you understand the concept of epistemological justification. You are supposed to prove that your beliefs are true, not that they are tolerant and conducive to peace, which you haven't proven either.

I do not hate homosexuals or members of other religions. I only want them to join me in Heaven, and stop trying to spread their perversions through old money lobbying.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

And since when are women weak?

Since the Federal government started enabling them.

[Proud Wiccan Girl]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

All of this is circular reasoning. You say you do not believe the Bible because you do not believe in Christianity. Well, dear friend, that is like saying you are not a Christian because you are not a Christian. I know you are not a Christian. That was clear from the moment you identified yourself as a Hellbound witch.

The point of arguing is to justify your beliefs. If you can't justify your beliefs, you are supposed to give them up. That is what reason is. Otherwise you are what is known as intellectually dishonest.

Well, why do you hate homosexuals?
What about other religions?

My religion teaches tolerance and peace. We accept homosexuals and do not try to convert others. I believe that is justified enough.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

It's a term for a Western Spiritual movement that happened in the second half of the 20th century.

That is also true, yes. But the term "New Age" started getting thrown around during Crowley's life as a result of his term "New Aeon".

And they must have been very kind to not sacrifice him to Satan.

If they in fact existed.

Is it more likely that the summation of Western culture has been incorrect about witches for centuries, or a few trust fund sluts who changed their names to Raven and got self-published?

[Scott Scenter]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

Child, this wiccan nonsense is merely the first step as an unbeliever towards the enlightenment that is the word of the Christ. It is as natural to masturbate as it is to believe that you can make up your own religion based on crap that you have seen written by drug addicts and the whores of the new age. It is a fact that you probably already have adorned yourself with the mark of Satan, which is what you peasants call tattoos.

God hates tats, and this is a natural fact. Science, the unnatural philosophy that compares cause and effect to the miracle of a virgin birth has already established that inking your skin, in particularly that slight part above your hiney causes cancer and an early death.

Jesus came, because he did not die and wants to save you from the mystery of damnation. Even trying to hold forth that believing in spells and runes and tarot cards and incense and running around naked because you think it is natural is like choosing the wrong door in the house of the haunted.

I love you, my child, and will pray for you to receive a sign that will abolish this retarded belief that you can, alone, surmount the vast nature of the spirit.

The Bible is easy to read, and I have a suggestion. It is in the book of Jonah, chapter four, verse seven.

But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that withered.

[Proud Wiccan Girl]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

Wicca is nothing more than one dirty old man's feeble attempt to get laid by pandering to the dumber gender.

And Christian holidays were moved around to convert Pagans.

And since when are women weak?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

If you read one of my other replies, you would know that I used to be a Christian, so I have read the bible. I see the bible as more of a guidebook on how to live your life as a Christian, where in fact, I am Wiccan. I'm sorry if that confused you.

Sorry, I was trying to put it into your perspective so you would better understand. Also, like I have stated before, I do not believe in Christianity, therefore, your bible has no effect on me.

All of this is circular reasoning. You say you do not believe the Bible because you do not believe in Christianity. Well, dear friend, that is like saying you are not a Christian because you are not a Christian. I know you are not a Christian. That was clear from the moment you identified yourself as a Hellbound witch.

The point of arguing is to justify your beliefs. If you can't justify your beliefs, you are supposed to give them up. That is what reason is. Otherwise you are what is known as intellectually dishonest.

[Proud Wiccan Girl]

Re: Questions about Wicca?

The term New Age was also plagiarized from Aleister Crowley.

It's a term for a Western Spiritual movement that happened in the second half of the 20th century.

Gerald Gardner claimed to learn witchcraft from an anonymous coven of nudist lesbians he stumbled upon in a forest while taking a walk.

And they must have been very kind to not sacrifice him to Satan.