What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

[Varg Vikernes]

Such as this? Horde

I find it sickening... but not for the same reasons you fellows would. A grand mockery of the glorious Norwegian black metal scene. Mayhem all the way.

[Paul Jeffery]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

After getting acquainted with this band, and listening to a few of their offerings, musically speaking, I was underwhelmed. First I'll outline the positive. Their sound engineering is top rate. Now about the musicality of the band, I'll say that the bassist is, at best, sophomoric, the guitarist is a Zach Wylde wannabe who will never be, but who tries, the drummer is pedestrian and uninventive, but his kit is expertly tuned (presumably by someone else). The vocalist's style is one I've always laughingly referred to as "vomit rock". He comes across as a corny, overused caricature, but worse, the lyrics are for the most part unintelligible as he barfs them into his mic. I've heard worse, but a heck of a lot better, too. I wouldn't walk across the street for a free copy of this music when there is so much better available.

[Varg Vikernes]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

After getting acquainted with this band, and listening to a few of their offerings, musically speaking, I was underwhelmed. First I'll outline the positive. Their sound engineering is top rate. Now about the musicality of the band, I'll say that the bassist is, at best, sophomoric, the guitarist is a Zach Wylde wannabe who will never be, but who tries, the drummer is pedestrian and uninventive, but his kit is expertly tuned (presumably by someone else).

Actually the band is entirely one person. As is most top-notch Norwegian black metal bands.

Unfortunately this "Horde"... as well as other christian BM bands... they are a blasphemy upon the glorious roots of black metal.

The vocalist's style is one I've always laughingly referred to as "vomit rock". He comes across as a corny, overused caricature, but worse, the lyrics are for the most part unintelligible as he barfs them into his mic. I've heard worse, but a heck of a lot better, too. I wouldn't walk across the street for a free copy of this music when there is so much better available.

I've seen this posted on the internet before and I think it applies here, it is very nicely written.

"There is an artistic justification for guttural screamed vocals... Metal is a genre that focuses on creating a specific mood, a specific atmosphere, and holding that for a whole album.

And that's where black metal screams come in. Screamed vocals are meant to further the harsh atmosphere of a metal album. Anyone can scream, sure, but in order to produce a convincing black metal shriek or death metal growl, it takes a lot of straining and control over one's voice, lest the singing come out sounding wheezed, forced, and lacking in emotion.

If you're listening to metal for lyrics, 90% of the time you are listening to it for the wrong reasons. The vocals are meant a lot of the time as an atmosphere-enhancer, or a rhythmic instrument much like the drums."

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

"Black metal"? Is that rock-and-roll played by nigras? So it's like rap-rock? Sounds doubly satanic, regardless of how "Christian" they claim to be. Disgusting.

[Nobar King]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

How can a band be one person?

[Varg Vikernes]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Black metal as in the color black, not the skin tone. Black metal is as far removed from any nigratic-trait as you could imagine.

[Varg Vikernes]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Hatred, misanthropy, dislike of things like getting "drugged" and "loaded" and the like. Being taken on a musical journey without the aid of anything else. That is what black metal is about.

Also... Nobar: Simple. Layering of tracks in a studio? Multitracking? I take it you have never recorded music before.

Why have more than one person when an able-bodied instrumentalist can handle everything?

[Jacob the Angry Liar]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Black metal as in the color black, not the skin tone. Black metal is as far removed from any nigratic-trait as you could imagine.

I disagree. I had a listen, and it was loud, obnoxious, and incomprehensible. Sounds like a nigra to me...

[Varg Vikernes]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Christianity is loud, obnoxious, and incomprehensible.

[Nurse Clampett]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Christianity is loud, obnoxious, and incomprehensible.

You've had your fun troll. Now why don't you dance away in your wooden shoes.

[Varg Vikernes]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Clampett: I apologize, I just get irked when the glorious roots of the proud genre of black metal get pooped on by ignoramuses.

Jacob: If you believe that that the linked music is incomprehensible/obnoxious, then I believe you may need to grow a set of these:



As A) The music is easily discernable, and pretty tame for black metal standards and I do believe your ears might not be running at full functionality.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Clampett: I apologize, I just get irked when the glorious roots of the proud genre of black metal get pooped on by ignoramuses.

Far be it for me to judge by your musical tastes, but I feel in incumbent to point out that the fact that the "black metal" will have around the same mention as the Insane Clown Posse in the grand scale of musical history.

Jacob: If you believe that that the linked music is incomprehensible/obnoxious, then I believe you may need to grow a set of these:

Now, now. We wouldn't want that awful Levi coming back around here. He has already given me two infractions in the space of 24 hours. He's quite the mall cop tin-pot dictator.

[Nobar King]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

It's still not a band if it's just one person.

[Varg Vikernes]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Samuel: Insane Clown Posse is musical chaff that has no artistic merit or message. Black metal does... hatred... misanthropy... complete disregard for standard musical practices or for the mainstream. The intentional abrasiveness that makes it hard for the listener... the idea is to weed out the weak. Black metal is about elitism. Were it not for the satanist aspect of SOME (not all) bands it should fit just fine here.

Nobar: It is if the project goes by a different name as the member in it.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: What is the opinion on Christian black metal?

Samuel: Insane Clown Posse is musical chaff that has no artistic merit or message. Black metal does... hatred... misanthropy...

The same as ICP.

complete disregard for standard musical practices or for the mainstream. The intentional abrasiveness that makes it hard for the listener...

It certainly succeeds in that aspect.

the idea is to weed out the weak.
Black metal is about elitism. Were it not for the satanist aspect of SOME (not all) bands it should fit just fine here.

I detest elitism! I am all about inclusion. I suppose that's why I enjoy the Lady Gaga so much. It's delicious pop entertainment reminiscent of the Eurythmics.

You can practically hear Annie Lennox singing Sweet Dreams in that "ma, ma, ma, ma, ma."