[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Dope fantasies? Unsaved Opinions? What if it makes me feel good hmm? Have you ever gotten high?...I don't think so...you have no idea what it does and what its effects are. You just recite opinions that you've taken from others,...go smoke a bowl and then tell me what you think.

Is smoking weed bad?...Yes it is. Do I get high all the time?...No 5-10 times a year...I would not call those "dope fantasies". Why don't you experience things for yourself, then make your own opinions. How do you know if you've never tried it?

I've never pounded a nail through my hand, but I take Christ's word for it that it would hurt if I did.

This is a Christian forum. We do not allow unsaved scum such as yourself to advocate for debauchery and sin here. Go pester the Catholics.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I'll admit it, I smoked pot once in college and I did inhale. I smoked something called 'Cannabis Indica', was very sticky, very fragrant and had all sorts of red strings in it. I do not remember much more than knowing that, knowing I smoked it and was hospitalized for a week. The doctors said I was lucky to of survived the poison. Apparently, if you start out smoking a little bit at a time, you build up an immunity to the poisons. But if you stop smoking then you go though all kinds of horrifying withdrawal.

So do not try and tell me that it is not the Devils weed!

[devils advocate]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I'll admit it, I smoked pot once in college and I did inhale. I smoked something called 'Cannabis Indica', was very sticky, very fragrant and had all sorts of red strings in it. I do not remember much more than knowing that, knowing I smoked it and was hospitalized for a week. The doctors said I was lucky to of survived the poison. Apparently, if you start out smoking a little bit at a time, you build up an immunity to the poisons. But if you stop smoking then you go though all kinds of horrifying withdrawal.

So do not try and tell me that it is not the Devils weed!

Um...I don't think you smoked weed. Weed will never send you to the hospital. You can't overdose on weed.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Um...I don't think you smoked weed. Weed will never send you to the hospital. You can't overdose on weed.

Son, I do not care what you think, but God does. I told you a fact. I do not lie.
You can preach about how good dope is and how you cannot overdose on it to all the grieving families that have lost children to the drugs you are pushing. When God is ready to collect you at your death, be prepared for the long fall into the fires of Hell.

[devils advocate]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Son, I do not care what you think, but God does. I told you a fact. I do not lie.
You can preach about how good dope is and how you cannot overdose on it to all the grieving families that have lost children to the drugs you are pushing. When God is ready to collect you at your death, be prepared for the long fall into the fires of Hell.

Then so be it.

[Doyourownresearch]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Pastor Ezekiel... pastor... I don't know if I feel right calling you Pastor. I've known many, many other pastors in my day and I've never heard anyone speak of such blasphemy. A pastor calling someone a "maggot" and "unsaved scum". Shouldn't you be trying to save that scum? Isn't that a goal of all Christians?

James Hutchins... devils advocate is right. There is not one single variety of Cannabis that can harm a person, much less, hospitalize someone. You may need to rethink back then if you were hanging out with the wrong people. They may have laced your weed. That's never a good situation unless you are willing and knowing that it's happening. A friend of mine smoked once about 30 years ago and had such a bad experience with it that she never touched it again for years. She later found out that it was laced with LSD, which if you smoke something like that unknowing it can be a scary experience. I'm sorry to hear you were in the hospital for a week, but it is very hard to believe that you were there because of smoking Cannabis Indica.

devil's advocate... you're not right in this remark though ("Is smoking bad?... Yes it is." No it's not. Where's the credible scientific information stating this?

Marshall... well... actually let me just stop here with pinpointing each of you and your the falsehoods you're spreading.

And I will deliver you a bible passage instead. Please read this passage.

Timothy 4 1-5

1 Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the last times some will turn away from the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and demonic instructions
2
through the hypocrisy of liars with branded consciences.
3
They forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
4
For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected when received with thanksgiving,
5
for it is made holy by the invocation of God in prayer

Now double check it in your own bible. Yes I know there are many different versions of the Christian Bible, but it'll be there and keep in mind it was written by the inspiration of God himself.

[devils advocate]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

devil's advocate... you're not right in this remark though ("Is smoking bad?... Yes it is." No it's not. Where's the credible scientific information stating this?

I've got nothing against marajuana, I've read that it kills the cells in your lungs and it's hard to grow those back.

[Nobar King]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I've got nothing against marajuana, I've read that it kills the cells in your lungs and it's hard to grow those back.

So, you do have something against Maryjane? Make up your mind, imbecile.

[Doyourownresearch]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

I've got nothing against marajuana, I've read that it kills the cells in your lungs and it's hard to grow those back.

Myth: Pot Kills Brain Cells

Government experts now admit that pot doesn't kill brain cells.1 This myth came from a handful of animal experiments in which structural changes (not actual cell death, as is often alleged) were observed in brain cells of animals exposed to high doses of pot. Many critics still cite the notorious monkey studies of Dr. Robert G. Heath, which purported to find brain damage in three monkeys that had been heavily dosed with cannabis.2 This work was never replicated and has since been discredited by a pair of better controlled, much larger monkey studies, one by Dr. William Slikker of the National Center for Toxicological Research3 and the other by Charles Rebert and Gordon Pryor of SRI International.4 Neither found any evidence of physical alteration in the brains of monkeys exposed to daily doses of pot for up to a year. Human studies of heavy users in Jamaica and Costa Rica found no evidence of abnormalities in brain physiology.5 Even though there is no evidence that pot causes permanent brain damage, users should be aware that persistent deficits in short-term memory have been noted in chronic, heavy marijuana smokers after 6 to 12 weeks of abstinence.6 It is worth noting that other drugs, including alcohol, are known to cause brain damage.

Footnotes

1. Dr. Christine Hartel, Acting Director of Research, National Institute of Drug Abuse, cited by the State of Hawaii Dept of Health, Alcohol and Drug Abuse Division in memo of Feb. 4, 1994.

2. For an overview, see NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES Report, op. cit., pp. 81-2. R.G. Heath et al, "Cannabis sativa: effects on brain function and ultrastructure in Rhesus monkeys," Biol. Psychiatry 15: 657-90 (1980).

3. William Slikker et al., "Chronic Marijuana Smoke Exposure in the Rhesus Monkey," Fundamental and Applied Toxicology 17: 321-32 (1991).

4. Charles Rebert & Gordon Pryor - "Chronic Inhalation of Marijuana Smoke and Brain Electrophysiology of Rhesus Monkeys," International Journal of Psychophysiology V 14, p.144, 1993.

5. NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES Report, pp. 82-7.

6. "Cannabis and Memory Loss," (editorial) British Journal of Addiction 86: 249-52 (1991)



Where's your sources?

[Robbie the doper]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

So, you do have something against Maryjane? Make up your mind, imbecile.

Nobar King, how are you going to ignorantly insult somebody
for posting a theory posing no threat whatsoever to your opinions?
Even there is no way to be as perfect as God, or perfect in general,
a Christian is called to carry out a duty to strive to be God-like and
have unconditional love for his or her fellow neighbors throughout
his or her lifetime. Now, how are you achieving this?

[Nobar King]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Nobar King, how are you going to ignorantly insult somebody
for posting a theory posing no threat whatsoever to your opinions?

Did you even read his self-contradictory statement? Why are you criticizing me?

[Doyourownresearch]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

So, you do have something against Maryjane? Make up your mind, imbecile.

Now, there's no reason for name calling. Lets try and set good Christian examples here. After all we are on a Christian site here. Are we not?

[Robbie the doper]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Did you even read his self-contradictory statement? Why are you criticizing me?

Why yes I did. Devils advocate is simply posting a debatable
theory to bring about other's opinions/facts/researched theories.

So now that we're done dealing with your arguement, let's
deal with mine. How are you achieving what God has called you
to do? And just so I can be up to date with your opinions, tell me
your valid reason why smoking is a sin?

[Nobar King]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Tell me
your valid reason why smoking is a sin?

Smoking is not a sin. You can go buy a pack of cigarettes any time you like and pay the appropriate taxes. You might be discouraged from smoking in the produce aisle, however.

[Robbie the doper]

Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?

Why yes I did. Devils advocate is simply posting a debatable
theory to bring about other's opinions/facts/researched theories.

So now that we're done dealing with your arguement, let's
deal with mine. How are you achieving what God has called you
to do? And just so I can be up to date with your opinions, tell me
your valid reason why smoking is a sin?

Oh yeah, I have to correct myself because Jesus has "demanded"
me to adhere to proper "American" grammar, spelling, and punctuation;
even though he spoke Hebrew.

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